Eppo 7,020 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'm usually quite vocal against Hitler comparisons (most of the time they don't make sense anyway), but look at the similarities between the two in this picture and video.... holy shit. Obviously there are also a lot of aspects in which they differ from each other, but the ones mentioned below are still facts and it paints a scary picture. VIDEO comparing speeches: https://clip.gs/NowThisNews#/8/clips/10752 ----- People are usually quick to dismiss the possibility of a WW3 happening any time soon, but what they don't realize is that these kind of wars always creep up on people. The build-up is never obvious to the point where the masses would agree a world war is inevitable. I legit think that a WW3 could happen 'soon'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghettoe 1,955 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Personally, don't see WW3 happening any time soon. It would require a considerable amount of tension from the first world to go to war. Also a rather dumb comparison because you can find quite a lot of similarities among anyone in power. I am pretty sure you can find some similarities between Hitler and Obama too. In fact, in that ten common traits, I already see three similar to the supposed leader of the free world. Inventing foreign enemies - check Use of propaganda - check Politics of Imperialism - check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symphonyâ„¢ 11,329 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Putin never did or tried genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORDICUS 556 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 NO.You can put any world leader in those categories and it will fit:Obama, stalin, Mao,Kim,Bush etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayingSeohyun 6,688 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Like everyone already knows that they are alike, boo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Russia never thought of having war in the first place. US provoke them since Cold War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Hitler was obviously much worse but there are some parallels. Also, this doesn't include the invasion of Georgia. I don't see a third world war happening though. Putin cares too much about his life and isn't as crazy as Hitler was. Putin is more like Stalin in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 NO.You can put any world leader in those categories and it will fit:Obama, stalin, Mao,Kim,Bush etc Mao and Stalin were pretty much as bad as Hitler though... They all killed millions of their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Nose 6,905 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Russia never thought of having war in the first place. US provoke them since Cold War. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppo 7,020 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Personally, don't see WW3 happening any time soon. It would require a considerable amount of tension from the first world to go to war. Also a rather dumb comparison because you can find quite a lot of similarities among anyone in power. I am pretty sure you can find some similarities between Hitler and Obama too. Well I definitely think 'soon' (perhaps I should have elaborated on this, I meant between now and the next 20 years) is possible if the situation in Ukraine continues to escalate. I agree that you can compare anyone in power in some ways, but this specific case is quite extreme and the similarities are eerie. NO.You can put any world leader in those categories and it will fit:Obama, stalin, Mao,Kim,Bush etc Not really... Some, yes, but these specific aspects are quite extreme and they paint a scary picture as I said. Russia never thought of having war in the first place. US provoke them since Cold War. Surely you're not serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natalya16 965 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 млÑ, как же задрали Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORDICUS 556 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Mao and Stalin were pretty much as bad as Hitler though... They all killed millions of their own Exactly. He could have compared him to those murderers tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Surely you're not serious? Read different sources, not just US and it allies. Cold War started because US sent U2 airplane into Soviet air space for several months. The Soviet representative send the evidence to UN and the start of Cold War from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachesis 1,007 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 you should continue being vocal against Hitler comparisons or at least make a detailed and complete list of similarities and differences. Most of these traits are common to leaders or mean nothing specially bad, it's amazing how easily you dismiss all the other aspects to end up to some nebulous scaremongering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORDICUS 556 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Well I definitely think 'soon' (perhaps I should have elaborated on this, I meant between now and the next 20 years) is possible if the situation in Ukraine continues to escalate. I agree that you can compare anyone in power in some ways, but this specific case is quite extreme and the similarities are eerie. Not really... Some, yes, but these specific aspects are quite extreme and they paint a scary picture as I said. Surely you're not serious? They're all using the same technique.The outcome might be extreme sometimes but they're territorial, financial, imperialistic murderers. None of them is a cute puppy. Reaching the top is not for the weak minded but for the most vicious manipulators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupfdohle 221 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Verdammischt nochma, die ham echt viele Gemeinsamkeiten. But why comparing to Hitler anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Exactly. He could have compared him to those murderers tho. They probably chose Hitler because 1) more similarities 2) comparing him to Hitler will get more of a reaction With that said I really doubt there'll be a new world war due to Putin... but that doesn't excuse what he's done. Now I'm not sure if he actually intended things to spiral this far out of control, but he probably realizes that the situation has to be cooled. I believe he tried to bully and abuse a weaker neighbour in order to expand his/Russia's influence and rally the Russian people. A victory would strengthen his position, but wih the propaganda they're spreading it could escalate too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Russia never thought of having war in the first place. US provoke them since Cold War. That's not the case at all, actually. Sure, they probably never thought of a world war, as it would be disastrous for them, but they've waged war against smaller countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppo 7,020 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Read different sources, not just US and it allies. Cold War started because US sent U2 airplane into Soviet air space for several months. The Soviet representative send the evidence to UN and the start of Cold War from there. I read different sources... I was talking about how you were pretty much saying that it's all the US' fault. If Russia were only provoked as you said, there wouldn't even have been a Cold War because it takes two participants not one. you should continue being vocal against Hitler comparisons or at least make a detailed and complete list of similarities and differences. Most of these traits are common to leaders or mean nothing specially bad, it's amazing how easily you dismiss all the other aspects to end up to a stupid nebulous scaremongering How am I fear mongering? This topic is clearly about the specific comparisons and how they paint a scary picture. I never claimed this was a complete/detailed list of similarities. I even said so in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyaaa 225 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 World War 3 won't be happening anytime soon because US and Russia won't risk it. 15k give or take nuclear warheads combined means mutual destruction and quite possibly human extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 That's not the case at all, actually. Sure, they probably never thought of a world war, as it would be disastrous for them, but they've waged war against smaller countries. Yup and they suffer a lot till Soviet collapse. I read different sources... I was talking about how you were pretty much saying that it's all the US' fault. If Russia were only provoked as you said, there wouldn't even have been a Cold War because it takes two participants not one. Sending your military aircraft including spy place to other country air space w/o permission is act of war already. This is UN charted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eppo 7,020 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 World War 3 won't be happening anytime soon because US and Russia won't risk it. 15k give or take nuclear warheads combined means mutual destruction and quite possibly human extinction. A few years ago I would've said the same...but i'm not so sure anymore. Putin seems increasingly delusional in what he can and can't do. Who knows though, maybe he's playing us all. And the nuclear weapon argument is often used as to why a WW3 wouldn't happen, but people forget they function mainly as a deterrent of war. In the event of an actual war, I seriously doubt any world leader with access to them would use them en masse. Most of the nuclear weapons in existence today are tactical nukes anyway. The times of extremely high yield nukes is long gone. Yup and they suffer a lot till Soviet collapse. Sending your military aircraft including spy place to other country air space w/o permission is act of war already. This is UN charted. So in your opinion, that one act gives Russia a free pass to do whatever and absolves them of any blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adda 9,200 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I don't think will have a ww3, but I do care about the regional war cause the separatist leader (supported by Putin, of course) said he wants Nova Russia border my country.We had too many issues with Russia, I definitely don't want Ukraine to disasppear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yup and they suffer a lot till Soviet collapse. Sending your military aircraft including spy place to other country air space w/o permission is act of war already. This is UN charted. Yeah but you can't just blame it on the US Russia practiced an attack here last year, and sent planes over this year too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArseneLupin 4,475 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 100s of other people would qualify too, this is like saying stalin has a mustache and i do to, doesnt make us similar,its stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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