kakashi 5,725 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Pann: If Red Velvet is getting SM benefits then Winner is also getting YG benefits ===== 1. [+133, -25] Totally agreed. Red Velvet got so much hate just because they were nominated winning #1 but Winner didn't get any hate when they even won #1 in just five days after debut. I'm not saying that they deserve hate but the difference in the responses. Leave female idols alone 2. [+130, -17] I agree so much.... I've heard of "it's because they're from SM" but I've never heard of "it's because they're from YG" 3. [+120, -23] Agree so much. Do they think SM is untalented?? Is YG the only talented one?? 4. [+41, -2] They're getting benefits because they're from YG. They did a survival show before debut and no one would've paid attention to it if it wasn't YG. They also gained fans with Winner TV. If "all about being SM" is true, then Winner is also all about being YG 5. [+37, -3] I freaking hate YG fans and their pride with their artists ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ They think their oppars are the best artists. They also think all SM kids did before debuting is getting plastic surgery. If you think about it, SM has the most good vocalists and good dancers are also in SM 6. [+36, -2] Winner even had CFs, reality shows, and modeling before debut. Isn't this a true benefit of a big company? They were pushed so much before debut ã…‹ã…‹ Honestly if you compare Red Velvet and Winner, Winner got much more company benefits than Red Velvet. So why are you guys only calling Red Velvet out for their company benefits? And SM doesn't push their rookies for their first year. They have to go through all sorts of weird stuff. EXO was on Tooniverse and they had to watch elementary school students doing performances. They also had to volunteer 7. [+36, -13] I liked Red Velvet's song more. Winner's song was really so-so ã… ã… You guys are saying that you liked Winner's song more than Red Velvet's so please respect my own opinions ã… ã… 8. [+33, -0] Talks of "SM benefits" never stop with SM rookie idols... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius 8,485 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 There are people that deny Winner got benefits??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Red Velvet made up of 98% fangirls. Pann step on their tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
�SHERRY� 5,081 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 All big 3 groups have benefits cos they are from big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbiedoll 4,097 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 for once, i agreed with pann.. But well, short words is RED VELVET getting alot of hates because the fangirls is SCARED that their oppa favourite RV.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy4KPOP 4,581 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Here we go again, round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeballs 2,036 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Well, yeah. Both Red Velvet and Winner are getting benefits because of their company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aion Divinity 9,761 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 [+37, -3] I freaking hate YG fans and their pride with their artists ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ They think their oppars are the best artists. They also think all SM kids did before debuting is getting plastic surgery. If you think about it, SM has the most good vocalists and good dancers are also in SM Wow sounds spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApinkPandaOfApink 338 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 all artists except their very first few ones from the big 3 got the benefits it is stupid for anyone to try to deny it Winner would be lucky as popular as BTS if they debuted under a smaller company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miLoDy 1,988 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 there will always be the company effect/influence factor, who is denying YG's effect on WINNER? The factor that solidified WINNER's status right now is the promotion that YG did. He exposed them with WIN then WINNER tv, the long wait actually added factor to the attention they've been getting plus the album is really close to perfection with jams here and there. Anyways, it's just the beginning, too early to make assumptions, just enjoy listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvang 23,884 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 [+36, -13] I liked Red Velvet's song more. Winner's song was really so-so ã… ã… You guys are saying that you liked Winner's song more than Red Velvet's so please respect my own opinions ã… ã… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruVenom 250 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Both got benefits and but both are talented in their own ways also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfina 29,566 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 1. [+133, -25] Totally agreed. Red Velvet got so much hate just because they were nominated winning #1 but Winner didn't get any hate when they even won #1 in just five days after debut. I'm not saying that they deserve hate but the difference in the responses. Leave female idols alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yallstupid 214 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The only difference is that happiness is shit while empty is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apathy 404 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 YG fans are the absolute worst. Maybe the worst fandom in all entertainment, not just kpop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cytherial 4,589 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Pann: If Red Velvet is getting SM benefits then Winner is also getting YG benefits ===== 1. [+133, -25] Totally agreed. Red Velvet got so much hate just because they were nominated winning #1 but Winner didn't get any hate when they even won #1 in just five days after debut. I'm not saying that they deserve hate but the difference in the responses. Leave female idols alone why would you get hate for genuinely slaying like a pro? and btw, empty is showing great longevity too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onehallyu#1NiceOppaKW 27,191 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 SME,YG and JYPE, your best brand in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone actually 4,572 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 RV getting that fangirl power. Leave female idols alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indomiee 144 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Pann: If Red Velvet is getting SM benefits then Winner is also getting YG benefits ===== 1. [+133, -25] Totally agreed. Red Velvet got so much hate just because they were nominated winning #1 but Winner didn't get any hate when they even won #1 in just five days after debut. I'm not saying that they deserve hate but the difference in the responses. Leave female idols alone 2. [+130, -17] I agree so much.... I've heard of "it's because they're from SM" but I've never heard of "it's because they're from YG" 3. [+120, -23] Agree so much. Do they think SM is untalented?? Is YG the only talented one?? 4. [+41, -2] They're getting benefits because they're from YG. They did a survival show before debut and no one would've paid attention to it if it wasn't YG. They also gained fans with Winner TV. If "all about being SM" is true, then Winner is also all about being YG 5. [+37, -3] I freaking hate YG fans and their pride with their artists ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ They think their oppars are the best artists. They also think all SM kids did before debuting is getting plastic surgery. If you think about it, SM has the most good vocalists and good dancers are also in SM 6. [+36, -2] Winner even had CFs, reality shows, and modeling before debut. Isn't this a true benefit of a big company? They were pushed so much before debut ã…‹ã…‹ Honestly if you compare Red Velvet and Winner, Winner got much more company benefits than Red Velvet. So why are you guys only calling Red Velvet out for their company benefits? And SM doesn't push their rookies for their first year. They have to go through all sorts of weird stuff. EXO was on Tooniverse and they had to watch elementary school students doing performances. They also had to volunteer 7. [+36, -13] I liked Red Velvet's song more. Winner's song was really so-so ã… ã… You guys are saying that you liked Winner's song more than Red Velvet's so please respect my own opinions ã… ã… 8. [+33, -0] Talks of "SM benefits" never stop with SM rookie idols... is this pann!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver 22,442 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'm so done with the "from the big three" crap.. You think it was easy?? Freakin Seulgi was a trainee for 7 Years!!! and yet she only debuted last month.. Idols that join different companies have the benefit of being a top priority where as big companies they're not.. I mean seriously?? Happiness?? YG is different because they only have 3 active groups atm.. But look at the shit Winner went through.. Just because they are from the big 3 doesn't mean they did not work just as hard.. if not harder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiyang♥ 4,866 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The only difference is that happiness is shit while empty is good Cocky ygstans thinking their oppar/unnirs make the best music and everybody else who disagree, must be have shitty taste in music. Why am I not surprised again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhai 382 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 YG stan think their music came from heaven , nothing new here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12345nanananana 114 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
��� 372 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Same with 2NE1, not just YG but Big Bang popularity too. Female version of Big Bang my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboi 607 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Pann: If Red Velvet is getting SM benefits then Winner is also getting YG benefits ===== 1. [+133, -25] Totally agreed. Red Velvet got so much hate just because they were nominated winning #1 but Winner didn't get any hate when they even won #1 in just five days after debut. I'm not saying that they deserve hate but the difference in the responses. Leave female idols alone 2. [+130, -17] I agree so much.... I've heard of "it's because they're from SM" but I've never heard of "it's because they're from YG" 3. [+120, -23] Agree so much. Do they think SM is untalented?? Is YG the only talented one?? 4. [+41, -2] They're getting benefits because they're from YG. They did a survival show before debut and no one would've paid attention to it if it wasn't YG. They also gained fans with Winner TV. If "all about being SM" is true, then Winner is also all about being YG 5. [+37, -3] I freaking hate YG fans and their pride with their artists ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ They think their oppars are the best artists. They also think all SM kids did before debuting is getting plastic surgery. If you think about it, SM has the most good vocalists and good dancers are also in SM 6. [+36, -2] Winner even had CFs, reality shows, and modeling before debut. Isn't this a true benefit of a big company? They were pushed so much before debut ã…‹ã…‹ Honestly if you compare Red Velvet and Winner, Winner got much more company benefits than Red Velvet. So why are you guys only calling Red Velvet out for their company benefits? And SM doesn't push their rookies for their first year. They have to go through all sorts of weird stuff. EXO was on Tooniverse and they had to watch elementary school students doing performances. They also had to volunteer 7. [+36, -13] I liked Red Velvet's song more. Winner's song was really so-so ã… ã… You guys are saying that you liked Winner's song more than Red Velvet's so please respect my own opinions ã… ã… 8. [+33, -0] Talks of "SM benefits" never stop with SM rookie idols... Agree so much. Do they think SM is untalented?? Is YG the only talented one?? no1 thinks that but its obvious which group has better talents and songs 1. [+133, -25] Totally agreed. Red Velvet got so much hate just because they were nominated winning #1 but Winner didn't get any hate when they even won #1 in just five days after debut. I'm not saying that they deserve hate but the difference in the responses. Leave female idols alone they was hated by fucking fx fans and due to the video scandals 5. [+37, -3] I freaking hate YG fans and their pride with their artists ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ They think their oppars are the best artists. They also think all SM kids did before debuting is getting plastic surgery. If you think about it, SM has the most good vocalists and good dancers are also in SM so does SM fans? you have more groups so obviously you have more better vocalists and dancers , and they all did get plastic surgery? lol 7. [+36, -13] I liked Red Velvet's song more. Winner's song was really so-so ã… ã… You guys are saying that you liked Winner's song more than Red Velvet's so please respect my own opinions you like generic groups shocker winner went through alot more crap then these girls YG fans dont care for them they received there hate from fx fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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