abra 40,910 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I think this is Nakata's best work of the year for me Yeah I liked that one too, but for some reason it feels about a minute too long imo. The first minute and a half is sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 ok let's discuss this: Click here to view the Tweet and now, this will sound like shade but i mean no shade but... kumi? really? there's really no way, unless she decides to do a complete renovation of her entire brand and creative direction, and she probably won't bc her established one works fine. well it works. same with ayumi. i'm a fan of both. nishino is way more likely imo, and i can definitely see airi becoming the next big soloist if she makes good moves. utada... like that confused me, does she really have any more to prove? she's already a league of her own in my mind. i could see sayaka go solo and rise to unknown heights all in all a lot of these names make no sense. they're either far too established, far too niche or have nothing close to in common with namie, her gp appeal or brand as a soloist all-star. perfect example is putting a kpop group there... like... wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 It looks like Avex is taking advantage of Youtube Premium, now that it's been implemented in Japan. They uploaded a bunch of full MVs that previously only had a short version on their channel, or like it wasn't the "completely full version" because some of the differences is only like a couple of seconds . The full MVs are only available to people that have Youtube Premium or Youtube Music Premium I guess. but it includes stuff like EXILE TRIBE and Wagakki Band. I imagine they're going to continue to upload more of them in the future. https://www.youtube.com/user/avexnetwork/videos yea they took away my older TGS content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun☼Shine 4,273 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 ok let's discuss this: Click here to view the Tweet and now, this will sound like shade but i mean no shade but... kumi? really? there's really no way, unless she decides to do a complete renovation of her entire brand and creative direction, and she probably won't bc her established one works fine. well it works. same with ayumi. i'm a fan of both. nishino is way more likely imo, and i can definitely see airi becoming the next big soloist if she makes good moves. utada... like that confused me, does she really have any more to prove? she's already a league of her own in my mind. i could see sayaka go solo and rise to unknown heights all in all a lot of these names make no sense. they're either far too established, far too niche or have nothing close to in common with namie, her gp appeal or brand as a soloist all-star. perfect example is putting a kpop group there... like... wut I mean, Koda Kumi could've made a good comeback if she played her cards right after Meguminohito became a tik tok meme and she had the public's attention. But unfortunately, she wasted it. Kana Nishino will forever be a boring constant in the industry. She's not going anywhere, but she's reached her peak already so she better be happy people have some interest in her. Perfume seems to be at Kana level of interest in the public but for some reason, I feel like they can disband at any time. I don't want to count Ayumi out but... yeah. I'm counting her out. Counting Utada out as well. Her comeback was highly anticipated because she was gone for so long. I don't think people as much as they did now. She's still above Kana and Kumi because she's respected as an artist. For me, E-Girls are missing that X-factor. They have the right ingredients so far but are missing something. Sometimes they seem hollow. Misaka Uno for me is like a tier below Kana. AKB had their chance. They're done; as well as most of their sister groups. There's a reason Aki-P went to Mnet and possibly JYPE. The only ones I can think of possibly taking Namie's place are Airi Suzuki, Sayaka Yamamoto and Twice (yes, even Twice). Airi is a long shot though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergel 3,564 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I'm so happy I can finally find the whole MV of this song on Youtube now. Also finding some Koda Kumi, Ayu, Utada, and lecca albums. I guess it's true they're taking advantage of the Youtube premium stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 ok let's discuss this: Click here to view the Tweet and now, this will sound like shade but i mean no shade but... kumi? really? there's really no way, unless she decides to do a complete renovation of her entire brand and creative direction, and she probably won't bc her established one works fine. well it works. same with ayumi. i'm a fan of both. nishino is way more likely imo, and i can definitely see airi becoming the next big soloist if she makes good moves. utada... like that confused me, does she really have any more to prove? she's already a league of her own in my mind. i could see sayaka go solo and rise to unknown heights all in all a lot of these names make no sense. they're either far too established, far too niche or have nothing close to in common with namie, her gp appeal or brand as a soloist all-star. perfect example is putting a kpop group there... like... wut I think this poll just proves that when you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers. Counting Utada out as well. Her comeback was highly anticipated because she was gone for so long. I don't think people as much as they did now. She's still above Kana and Kumi because she's respected as an artist. It's not like Namie did much better before she announced her retirement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I mean, Koda Kumi could've made a good comeback if she played her cards right after Meguminohito became a tik tok meme and she had the public's attention. But unfortunately, she wasted it. Kana Nishino will forever be a boring constant in the industry. She's not going anywhere, but she's reached her peak already so she better be happy people have some interest in her. Perfume seems to be at Kana level of interest in the public but for some reason, I feel like they can disband at any time. I don't want to count Ayumi out but... yeah. I'm counting her out. Counting Utada out as well. Her comeback was highly anticipated because she was gone for so long. I don't think people as much as they did now. She's still above Kana and Kumi because she's respected as an artist. For me, E-Girls are missing that X-factor. They have the right ingredients so far but are missing something. Sometimes they seem hollow. Misaka Uno for me is like a tier below Kana. AKB had their chance. They're done; as well as most of their sister groups. There's a reason Aki-P went to Mnet and possibly JYPE. The only ones I can think of possibly taking Namie's place are Airi Suzuki, Sayaka Yamamoto and Twice (yes, even Twice). Airi is a long shot though. You do realize that in order to even come close to namie’s legacy you’d have to have an omnipresence in the industry for over a decade and the kind of zeitgeist cultural impact that doesn’t just come with sales or viral hits? I’m sorry but realistically I don’t think any group could achieve that, let alone a group like twice. Like that’s laughable. AKB has a greater chance of that happening, and it’s not going to happen. I agree that Kana couldn’t, but I don’t think Sayaka or Airi should be counted out. The latter has just begun her solo career but has incredible potential, as does Sayaka. Sayaka is also immensely popular not just with wotas. Not to mention both are TALENTED. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I think this poll just proves that when you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers. It's not like Namie did much better before she announced her retirement Agree. it reminds me of those clickbait polls on twitter where you count on idle fandoms providing clicks and traffic. It doesn’t seem representative at all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Agree. it reminds me of those clickbait polls on twitter where you count on idle fandoms providing clicks and traffic. It doesn’t seem representative at all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think it's more that the only decent answer is "not going to happen". Which is why you get these confused answers with people trying to interpret the question into something that makes sense. "Who is now the top singer?" -> Utada, maybe Kana "Which artist will now represent female fashion?" -> E-Girls, TWICE, Perfume "Are there any artists with a somewhat similar profile?" -> Kumi, Ayu "Are there any artists with a somewhat similar profile that aren't popular yet but aren't almost 40?" -> Airi, Sayanee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun☼Shine 4,273 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 You do realize that in order to even come close to namie’s legacy you’d have to have an omnipresence in the industry for over a decade and the kind of zeitgeist cultural impact that doesn’t just come with sales or viral hits? I’m sorry but realistically I don’t think any group could achieve that, let alone a group like twice. Like that’s laughable. AKB has a greater chance of that happening, and it’s not going to happen. I agree that Kana couldn’t, but I don’t think Sayaka or Airi should be counted out. The latter has just begun her solo career but has incredible potential, as does Sayaka. Sayaka is also immensely popular not just with wotas. Not to mention both are TALENTED. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, I realize that. I'm not counting Sayaka or Airi out. If you read what I wrote you'd see that they were two of the three I'd thought could. And with Twice it is possible. I'm not saying that'll happen next year or the year after that. But if they continue on the path that they are right now, then eventually yes it would happen. And the whole talent thing really doesn't matter sometimes with the public. We've seen talented people fall by the wayside and mediocrity rise to amazing heights. I think this poll just proves that when you ask dumb questions you get dumb answers. It's not like Namie did much better before she announced her retirement Meh, she did the song for the Olympics and had many other high profile endorsements right before her retirement. But the only way we'd know if Utada would be on Namie's level come retirement is if she actually retires. No hiatus, but actually leaves the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Yeah, I realize that. I'm not counting Sayaka or Airi out. If you read what I wrote you'd see that they were two of the three I'd thought could. And with Twice it is possible. I'm not saying that'll happen next year or the year after that. But if they continue on the path that they are right now, then eventually yes it would happen. And the whole talent thing really doesn't matter sometimes with the public. We've seen talented people fall by the wayside and mediocrity rise to amazing heights. Meh, she did the song for the Olympics and had many other high profile endorsements right before her retirement. But the only way we'd know if Utada would be on Namie's level come retirement is if she actually retires. No hiatus, but actually leaves the industry. I disagree, I’d much sooner claim SNSD reached that level at their peak and they did not, so I wouldn’t. They’re even referenced frequently still but it doesn’t make them representative. In terms of impact fact remains that twice’s last viral hit was TT in jp which is what they continue to perform at various functions. Sales wise 46G eclipses them in what... a day. And I’d never expect those heights of recognition for them either. True talent isn’t the only factor. But I’m not speaking of technical talent I’m speaking of image and general impact. Household name level impact - that in itself is a talent. That takes decades of consistency coupled with Madonna-like diversity and ability to reinvent oneself. No one on this list imo has displayed that not even my own favs perfume. I’d never assume they’d rise beyond their current status bc that’s simply not their aim. The only reason I’d put my money of Sayaka and airi is bc their path is still unclear and open ended. They’re also well liked enough to move beyond the idol label bc that’s an obstacle imo. I honestly believe abra has a point here. It’s an example of an open ended poll with too many possible answers and ways of interpretation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited December 18, 2018 by katsu • curry • chips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergel 3,564 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Reading the tweet, it doesn't sound like "Who's gonna be the next Namie" rather "who's gonna be the next big female singer now that Namie retired?" Namie's legacy and influence is huge, so I don't think we'll ever see anyone like that again. But now that the current top is gone, someone else has to be the top. Just no one is at the level she was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsu curry chips 7,808 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Reading the tweet, it doesn't sound like "Who's gonna be the next Namie" rather "who's gonna be the next big female singer now that Namie retired?" Namie's legacy and influence is huge, so I don't think we'll ever see anyone like that again. But now that the current top is gone, someone else has to be the top. Just no one is at the level she was. True. A poll would be a really mediocre way of finding out too. I’m sure there are up and coming acts that have potential but how would a wider selection of people even know that. I guess that’s why I found the replies so confusing/ridiculous. Why would a group like Perfume take the place of someone like Namie 20 years into their career. How would they even be able to. And even besides that. How would they become the next national it thing. Granted I’m not underestimating their impact in their own way but even without any similarities to Namie, I just don’t see that kind of gp appeal in ANY idol group. Oh I should add I kinda see some potential for Aimyon here tbh. Her swift rise is insane. And well deserved too. Her appeal obv translates well across the board Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited December 18, 2018 by katsu • curry • chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun☼Shine 4,273 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Reading the tweet, it doesn't sound like "Who's gonna be the next Namie" rather "who's gonna be the next big female singer now that Namie retired?" Namie's legacy and influence is huge, so I don't think we'll ever see anyone like that again. But now that the current top is gone, someone else has to be the top. Just no one is at the level she was. IA. No one is really going to be the next Namie. The time at which she debuted and that she was active in had favorable conditions for her situation to happen. The industry and culture now are far different from the one she came into. It's not impossible for someone to have the same cultural impact and career as she did, but it's highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun☼Shine 4,273 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I disagree, I’d much sooner claim SNSD reached that level at their peak and they did not, so I wouldn’t. They’re even referenced frequently still but it doesn’t make them representative. In terms of impact fact remains that twice’s last viral hit was TT in jp which is what they continue to perform at various functions. Sales wise 46G eclipses them in what... a day. And I’d never expect those heights of recognition for them either. True talent isn’t the only factor. But I’m not speaking of technical talent I’m speaking of image and general impact. Household name level impact - that in itself is a talent. That takes decades of consistency coupled with Madonna-like diversity and ability to reinvent oneself. No one on this list imo has displayed that not even my own favs perfume. I’d never assume they’d rise beyond their current status bc that’s simply not their aim. The only reason I’d put my money of Sayaka and airi is bc their path is still unclear and open ended. They’re also well liked enough to move beyond the idol label bc that’s an obstacle imo. I honestly believe abra has a point here. It’s an example of an open ended poll with too many possible answers and ways of interpretation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'll give it to you about Twice and TT. That song was playing everywhere I went when I was in JP (along with that stupid U.S.A song). And a question for everyone on here: Do 46G's sales suffer from bulk buying as much as 48G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergel 3,564 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 True. A poll would be a really mediocre way of finding out too. I’m sure there are up and coming acts that have potential but how would a wider selection of people even know that. I guess that’s why I found the replies so confusing/ridiculous. Why would a group like Perfume take the place of someone like Namie 20 years into their career. How would they even be able to. And even besides that. How would they become the next national it thing. Granted I’m not underestimating their impact in their own way but even without any similarities to Namie, I just don’t see that kind of gp appeal in ANY idol group. Oh I should add I kinda see some potential for Aimyon here tbh. Her swift rise is insane. And well deserved too. Her appeal obv translates well across the board Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk IA. No one is really going to be the next Namie. The time at which she debuted and that she was active in had favorable conditions for her situation to happen. The industry and culture now are far different from the one she came into. It's not impossible for someone to have the same cultural impact and career as she did, but it's highly unlikely. As someone who only followed her casually, I wonder what factors led her to being as big as she is. Like I her she was popular partly for her fashion, but there is more to it. Lol where is Amanda when you need her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) I'll give it to you about Twice and TT. That song was playing everywhere I went when I was in JP (along with that stupid U.S.A song). And a question for everyone on here: Do 46G's sales suffer from bulk buying as much as 48G? Yeah Not as much as the AKB election single though Edited December 19, 2018 by abra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeYaWithYou 4,415 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I know I'm very late but I LOVE Kenshi's Flamingo. Such a great song 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,032 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) I'll give it to you about Twice and TT. That song was playing everywhere I went when I was in JP (along with that stupid U.S.A song). And a question for everyone on here: Do 46G's sales suffer from bulk buying as much as 48G? Really? I didn't hear it. When were you there? I heard DA PUMP, MISIA, Yonezu Kenshi, and King & Prince mostly. Edited December 20, 2018 by DocumentaLy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun☼Shine 4,273 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) Really? I didn't hear it. When were you there? I heard DA PUMP, MISIA, Yonezu Kenshi, and King & Prince mostly. I was there the first two weeks of October. I heard 'TT' a bit in Shibuya. But the most I heard it was in Osaka. It was everywhere we turned. Edit: I also heard it while in Kyoto, but not a lot. King & Prince's 'Memorial' was about to(?) come out. So there were commercials on T.V. and advertisements for that. Even on the front of convenience marts. I'd get off the train and across the street was this big K&P banner smack dab on a Family Mart. That DA PUMP song was just everywhere. On T.V., in stores. By the end of the trip, we were making our own versions of it. 'Come on Baby! America! "Stop taking Lialda if you experience: nausea, headaches or diarrhea." ' 'Come on Baby! America! "If you or a loved one have Mesothelioma, you may be entitled to financial compensation." ' Edited December 20, 2018 by Sun☼Shine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedove 1,849 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Kana's going on semi-hiatus, so I guess it's really Aimyon's time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocumentaLy 6,032 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Kana's going on semi-hiatus, so I guess it's really Aimyon's time now. But are they really the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergel 3,564 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Kana's going on semi-hiatus, so I guess it's really Aimyon's time now. Kana's going on hiatus? Edited January 10, 2019 by sergel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedove 1,849 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 But are they really the same? Their trajectory early in their career is nearly the same. We'll see. Kana's going on hiatus? Yep indefinite hiatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The NGT situation is really messed up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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