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And I stand by what I said. My left nut is more talented than Kyary. It can make a child. What can Kyary make besides random noise?

What she has already been doing for the past few years. Inspire people around the world to be individualistic, bold, pay no attention to people saying you don't have any talent, focus on promoting your strengths instead of staying hell-bent on focussing on your weaknesses, all while in happy colourful outfits and dancing to upbeat tunes.

 

Kana Nishino's message is however: do the same boring shit people have been doing for years, dress as a date-rape version of Ayumi Hamasaki and apparently sell a shitload of albums in the process.

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If people need to look to pop stars to be themselves, that's sad. Maybe the reason I don't need all this bright sunshine and happiness crap is because I am secure in myself and my feelings.

 

Nishino Kana expresses herself through her music, which she writes. Does Kyary expresses herself in anyway besides playing dress up?

well, whoop-di-fucking-doo, congratulations at you being secure. Other people are not as secure and need some outside reassurance, an outside reminder to tell them it's good to show who they are and what they're all about. What is so genius about Kyary Pamyu Pamyu is she knows how to express herself through her image, but at the same time leaves room for fans to fill in the blanks, to pick up where she left off, or, inspired by her, start to create her own thing.

 

Kana Nishino lacks depth. All she does is nothing new, her music is bland, her image is soft and unimpressive...Kana Nishino is an inspiration for wallflowers, for girls whose biggest dream in life is to be part of the masses, not doing anything exceptional, be part of the status quo. Kyary Pamyu Pamyu is an inspiration for those who want to challenge themselves, to use their strengths to get ahead in this world, to follow their dreams, to be somebody, to make a statement.

 

I don't care if Kana Nishino was a Nobel Winning Novelist, if the music is bland, the lyrics won't pop. If she's such a good writer, maybe she should try a career as a poet? And not quite sure if you're serious with that last question...Kyary is probably the most outspoken and expressive artist in Japan right now, it's pop music, nobody gives a fuck about that hipster shit "oh, she did not write her own music, she's not a true popstar". People care about if they like the image and the music. For me, it's a yes and a yes for Kyary and a no and a no for Kana. 

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You're looking too deeply into Kyary. There are no blanks to fill in. There's no depth there. It's simply childish nonsense.

 

Kana has depth because she creates stories to tell through her music. Kyary simply doesn't have this ability. Kyary is just "Look at this crazy shit I'm wearing!" If that inspires you, I feel sad for you. Kana sings a lot about love. A lot of her audience is experiencing the same emotions she sings about. It's like the soundtrack of their lives. I find it funny that you bash Kana but stan Ayu. It's quite bizarre seeing as how she's basically the new generation's equivalent to Ayu.

 

Umm, a lot of music is poetry set to music. WTF are you talking about? Kyary's outspoken and expressive because she dresses crazy? Stop. And "hipster shit"? Are you for real with this? Umm, you go to art school so let's not talk about "hipster shit." And as far as writing lyrics, it's been an integral part of Japanese music for quite a while. The majority of pop females are singer-songwriters. You have a very basic definition of pop music. No wonder you like the acts you do. 

You did not just compare Kana Nishino to Ayumi Hamasaki. Ayu has more talent in 1 eyelash than Kana Nishino has shown in her entire career.

 

And how does going to art school make me hipster? It's strange that you accuse me of having a basic definition of pop music while you are the one of has this very rigid and unbend-able ideas of what a pop star has to be and everything does not live up to that is shitty according to you. 

 

Kana Nishino is a one-trick pony, everything looks and sounds the same, and she makes no effort in other areas of public life. Kyary has touched upon many different forms of public life, music is the tiniest part of her career, she's a model, a writer, a tv-personality, an actress, all of it. 

 

Being a singer-songwriter =/= being talented. Kana Nishino has not done anything in her career that has impressed me. Kyary has.

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I'm really lost at Ayu stans hating on Kana. It's something I really don't get. Kana technically is a better singer than Ayu. They both write their own songs. Ayu has composed some while Kana hasn't. They're both the icons of teenage girls and young women of their era. The comparisons couldn't be any more clear.

 

Going to art school is one of the most "hipster" things one can do. It's such a cliched stereotype that I'm not sure how it's lost on you. Actually my view of pop is quite expansive. I view pop as 2 things. One as popular music but also as a in a way genreless form of music that draws inspirations from various sources. These are all pop songs:

 

All of these songs fit under the umbrella of pop music. There's different influences at play and a diversity of sounds but at the end of the day they're all still pop songs. You think that just because I think something is shit, like some of the videos I just posted, that I'm restricting my view of pop music when this isn't the case at all. I'm just pointing out what is good and what is bad, not restricting my view of what is and isn't pop. There are no limits being set.

 

The things you just pointed out that Kyary does are things that idols do mostly. Kana is an artist so these things wouldn't be the things that would apply to her. Like you said, Kyary's focus isn't music while Kana's is. As far as Kana's songs go, I will say that some of it can be samey but that owes more to Japan not being as diverse in sounds as it once was as opposed to her. If you listen to Kana you can hear differences in her songs.

 

Being a singer-songwriter is a talent. It's a form of creativity which is a talent. You are impressed by talentless people dressed like circus clowns so of course someone that wears things that normal girls where, writes her own songs, and has vocal ability wouldn't impress you. Why would it?

I don't see what me going to art school has anything to do with it, I go to the school I feel is best suited for me based on the talents I have and where I feel most at my place. Thanks for reducing my life to being nothing more than a stereotype yet again.

 

I give up, everything I say is clearly misunderstood and torn out of context. The point I'm trying to make is you tear down one form of creativity while you praise another. The reason I say you limit your view of pop music is because pop music and pop culture in general has a huge amount of different art forms and crafts. Song-writing is just one of many many different facets of pop music. Vocal talent is another. But there is so much more fascinating parts of pop culture that can make a pop artist great. You however don't see it as part of an artist, but as something separate. The reason I think AKB48 is the most fascinating pop act in Japan right now has absolutely nothing to do with the music. I do often enjoy AKB48's music, but I completely understand if you do not like the music, because it's music for a small niche, same with Kyary, I have no problem with the fact that people don't like the music. But what is a huge trend right now is that, just if the music is not what people usually like, all different aspects of the pop act are also thrown out the window, but that is what the act is about, not necessarily the music. 

 

I don't enjoy Kana Nishino's music, I don't like her voice or the feel of the songs. The reason I don't like the artist Kana Nishino however is because of her limited public figure, she has not much going for her besides the music, her image is not exciting, her promotional efforts are not exciting...she has just the music. If you like the music, that should be enough, but if you don't like the music, there is very little for Kana to redeem her and see her as a credible artist. 

 

The biggest difference in how you and I see pop acts is you tend to focus on the music alone. I however see it on a much larger scale, a pop artist is the music, the music videos, the promotion, the public persona, the interviews, the fandom, all of it.

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music is about music and nothing else about the artist matters

yes, but pop culture is about a lot more. If you don't care about the other stuff, well, that's your opinion, but saying it doesn't matter is really simplifying pop culture. There's a lot of really talented people who come together to create the different aspects a pop act.

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why is it that when a k-pop group or any random idol group tries bizarre and desperate attempts to sell more singles everybody attacks and hates them but when EXILE does it people call it genius and funny? what is SOOOOO special about EXILE that this double standard exists? And somebody needs to come up with some MUCH better excuses that they are not idols besides "they occasionally write their own material"....EXILE fits every aspect of an idol group, so why aren't they?

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Everyone should know how Jpn's physical market is running right now yet people get upset?

I mainly get upset that when ANY other artist does it they are frauds and people scream for their blood, but when EXILE does it people praise them for their genius marketing and how amazing it is that they sell so much. There is this extremely annoying double standard that people on this forum have.

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Records broken with 15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ Live Album
- Female (solo/band) with the highest ranked Live Album.
- Female (solo/band) with most albums (46) on top 10 along with Yuming.
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So which artist are you allowed to stan and which ones aren't? My posts get minuses if I stan Kyary Pamyu Pamyu, Perfume and AKB48 and I get minuses if I bash EXILE, B'z or Southern All Stars. Ayumi Hamasaki can go both ways. 

 

It's just fascinating how there is this clearly defined line between what is ok to like on this forum and what is not.

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Why do you care about rep points?

I don't, I just find it fascinating that some artists are bashed into the ground and nobody bats an eye, while others even considering saying something slighty different than worshipping them causes outrage and anger. Isn't it like, you like some artists and others you don't? Why is it ok to dislike one artist, but it isn't ok to dislike another?

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The difference in times between their careers though...

I guess if Yumi goes the way of B'z and just think "fuck making new music, I'll just release the same best off stuff over and over again" she'll have a chance.

 

But right now, my money is on Ayu on breaking most #1 albums by a solo artist in the very near future

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Crystal Kay is asking fans for money so she can debut in the US. :._.:

 

http://www.universal-music.co.jp/crystal-kay/news/2013/10/5-1

 

This is just plain wrong to me. :wth:

It's not that weird...Crystal Kay's career has flatlined in Japan and she wants to go somewhere else and try her luck there. Her music company does not support her so she tries a kick-starter to do it on her own. Countless indie artists get their money this way, if Crystal has a shot at just having the time of her life trying her luck in the US and if the fans are willing to contribute, all the best to her

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You better watch out

You better not cry

You better not frown

I'm telling you why...

 

Empress Ayu is coming to Town

2013.12.25 in stores
NEW SINGLE「Feel the love / Merry-go-round」

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9pLmxmskSM[/media]

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SNSD is releasing another Japanese album? Seems way too soon for that. :wth:

Seems like normal idol release schedule though...album release, couple of singles, album release 1 year after last album, couple of singles, album release 1 year after last album....

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