Would you stop your friend/family member from committing suicide?

[。Beach Angel 。]

Of course you would, if you ever considered them important. But I've spent, maybe 5-10 minutes trying to understand why two members of this forum think it's selfish

" Because it's their choice"

" But stopping them because you'll be sad is selfish"

 

I sat down in a chair, maybe popped a few ass zits and thought

 

oh

 

these two pieces of very precious and genuine trash clearly are trying to be considerate of their friends and family members.

 

DEFINITELY SUPER CONSIDERATE.

 

Although, even though I told them " suicidal people are not well".

 

IF you are not well ( not in the right mind) you can't make any decisions that you won't regret.

 

you don't have to have depression, or a bad mix of anxiety pills/alcohol or a traumatizing event... it could be anything that would be fucking with your head at that one moment....... 

 

Let's pretend your life is like a video game

 

and right after you commit suicide, you're back to normal

you're just looking through your life, trying to find out what happened

and you see your friend talking to you

and you see yourself tell your friend " hey, I'm so tired and I just don't think I have anything to live for, I'm going to kill myself tonight"

 

and your friend say " oh hey sure buddy, I would definitely feel really sad if you died but see, it would be selfish of me to stop you because I'm a really great friend"

 

What.

a.

great

friend.

 

what a great friend.

what a fuckinggreat friend these two anon forum members are.

 

[ANTI]

stupid users tbh

[PornStar]

committing suicide is selfish maybe those people who commit suicide think their life is not important, but for their family, friends is so too important. these two users are shameless.

[。Beach Angel 。]

committing Suicide is selfish maybe those people think their life is not important, but for their family, friends is so too important. these two users are shameless.

hmmm that's a bit on the verge of blaming the wrong people. I don't think suicide is selfish, it's just a mistake.

[Infinitea]

hmmm that's a bit on the verge of blaming the wrong people. I don't think suicide is selfish, it's just a mistake.

yeah, i don't think either can be considered selfish

[PornStar]

hmmm that's a bit on the verge of blaming the wrong people. I don't think suicide is selfish, it's just a mistake.

it's selfish mistake.

[eternal glow]

People who are thinking of suicide aren't in their correct state of mind. They need assistance and support so of course you need to help them out. "It's their choice". When you are depressed, do you think you're in a correct state of mind to be making choices about your life? 

 

EDIT: And just saying, stopping them isn't "forcing them to live in misery". Like I said, they are not in their correct state of mind. People who love them and care about them are obliged to help them out and stop their depression or whatever it is. Why are they in misery? Because they are not in their correct state of mind and haven't found the much needed support. I've been there myself. People helped me and I got over it and am living much happier. 

[SlayingSeohyun]

When you are in that mind-set though it is incredibly difficult to not want to... distracting people and giving them a new positive focus is the best thing.

[snowy kiss]

People who are thinking of suicide aren't in their correct state of mind. They need assistance and support so of course you need to help them out. "It's their choice". When you are depressed, do you think you're in a correct state of mind to be making choices about your life? 

[Lets Get Layed]

its their choice

 

i mean if i try to stop them, they will live in misery.

[Gabriel Celeste]

if i know they are planning to ofc i will stop them

[masketta]

it's selfish mistake.

calling suicide a selfish act is a selfish way to think.

[Ambi]

I found the thread now, those two need more love in their life  

[ezgiT]

Stopping someone from commiting suicide isnt selfish at all! 

 

someone attempting to commit suicide isnt selfish at all either

 

to even try to attempt suicide, your basically not in the right state of mind! which shows basically how desperate that person is to even contemplate the idea of suicide! 

 

i was gonna say hasnt it been proven how if someone attempts to commit suicide that even in the last seconds, its either their body or themselves reacting to it and they try to stop them selves from dying? 

 

i heard this before ^^ i forgot where though, or i could be wrong

[Sotired]

Isn't that a bit of a narrow minded way to look at it? Not everyone commits suicide for the same reasons. While it's true that most people that plan to end their lives suffer from depression or other mental problems, there are also people, who might have a terrible disease and thus rather die then to have a life full of suffering.

[Lets Get Layed]

i try to stop them and they just do it anyway. pointless.

[ItsSicachu]

I can see how someone would call it selfish to try and stop them

Nobody asks to be born, and the act of "holding them hostage" in their own lives when they just want out can be seen as placing your/their family's happiness (which would undoubtedly be ruined if they did off themselves) above their own.

 

However, I don't really think you can consider yourself someone's friend/family if you don't make an attempt to stop them from harming themselves, regardless of the motive being selfless or not. Like a ton of people in this thread have said, if someone's looking for an emergency eject button from life there's a very large chance that they aren't in the right state of mind to be making such an extreme decision.

 

Just my two bits ^^

[denizen mars]

well

I'd try to get them the help they needed to treat their depression, or try to make their lives a little easier if I could. But some people are so stubborn and sick you can't do much for them. In the case of folks with terminal diseases or no prospects, it's hard to say why you should try so hard to keep them from taking their lives.

[missjackson]

Depends on their motivation.

If  they know and I know they're going to die anyway (terminal illness or something, let's say) then I probably wouldn't.

Any other scenario... eh. If I can see it coming I would try, but the few people I know who committed suicide blindsided everybody sooo I'm not anticipating being there to actually be able to try and stop them.

[Sully]

committing suicide is selfish maybe those people who commit suicide think their life is not important, but for their family, friends is so too important. these two users are shameless.

 

IDK, I don't think people should have to continue to have to live just so other people won't be sad and upset that they're gone. It's kind of selfish in itself to guilt trip someone to not kill themselves just because you would be upset. Give them reasons not to because their life can be better and they can change it so they're happy, not just because "I would be upset that you're gone".

They don't owe anyone anything on having to stay alive since it's their life to live or end, and not the other person or people's. You shouldn't expect someone to live just for your sake.

[oshawott]

IDK, I don't think people should have to continue to have to live just so other people won't be sad and upset that they're gone. It's kind of selfish in itself to guilt trip someone to not kill themselves just because you would be upset. Give them reasons not to because their life can be better and they can change it so they're happy, not just because "I would be upset that you're gone".

They don't owe anyone anything on having to stay alive since it's their life to live or end, and not the other person or people's. You shouldn't expect someone to live just for your sake.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[TAEMON]

Suicidal people are not selfish

 

• They are mentally unstable
• They feel like a waste of life with no purpose
• They blame themselves for everything wrong in the family
• They're most likely scared of telling people because they'll get judged and that's far from what they want seeming as they judge themselves enough
• They over think then come to the conclusion that the world would be better without them

 

 

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Suicidal people are just mentally ill they need help not people telling them to stop being "emo" or to "snap out of it "

that just won't work I would appreciate if people would stop being so goddamn IGNORANT on the matter if you were to get depressed I'll tell you now it feels like your dying from the inside out it doesn't feel good at all and when stupid users like "Symphony" talk shit about something they don't understand yet again it just makes me feel like people don't learn it's like you don't want an education.

 

I've done a degree on mental health awareness so tbh all this "they're selfish losers" mindset pisses me off.

[alllysone]

Humans' basic instinct is to seek survival. Hence, to me, anyone comtemplating suicide is not in the right state of mind and is not rational. As family/friends, it is my duty to step in and made them realize that there are other solutions other than seeking death. I don't think it is selfish on my part.

 

I would do the same if I stumble upon a complete stranger trying to commit suicide. It is not about us feeling sad in the aftermath of the suicide, but it is just the right thing to do under those irrational circumstances. Very often, when we cannot think properly and when our minds are clouded by negative thoughts, we tend to do stupid things. That is when we need someone to step in and steer us in the right direction. 

[Ulmicola]

Yes, unless it's my sister. :3

[mamarao]

yes.