laiwingnang 85 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 want to introduce some cantopop music, mainly from its golden era when it was popular in many places in Asia... Cantopop is cantonese pop, despite being in a regional dialect, Cantonese, it managed to spread to other parts of Asia and overseas Asian communities in the 80s/90s. Many cantopop artists, both their cantopop and mandarin pop hits are what most of today's big artists like Jay Chau, SHE, etc.. listened to in their younger days....It was diverse in music style, a mix of european, american, jpop and traditional chinese music..of course, ballad is always the big thing in Chinese pop and there are many hits in that genre...It's sad that there used to be alot of cantopop resources online in English 15 years ago and now most of it has disappeared. ...so here I am, with a cantopop thread/blog. I'm going to post some of it here, but I'll leave most of it on my blog http://cantopopmusic.blogspot.com I have no idea when onehallyu will change server again and I don't want my efforts to go down the drain.. if ppl are interested, I'll continue here, if not, I'll just continue on my own blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Beyond - 海闊天空 (Vast ocean and sky) 1993 Beyond is one of the most influential pop rock bands in Chinese history, and not just in cantopop. Many of their songs are still being heavily played today all over Chinese speaking nations. Vast ocean and sky's lyrics might sound a bit corny to the average listener and the lyrics seem to be a bit ambiguous, but knowing the background story explains everything. The song was written at a time when cantopop music is at its commercial peak, when the industry is flooded with pretty idols and newcomers with nothing more than a pretty face is popping up by the second, cantopop was becoming overly commercial and manufactured. Bands that were once relevant in the 80s have disappeared off the radar. The media at the early 90s was mainly focused on the 4 heavenly kings (which I will talk about later). Koma Wong at one point said "Hong Kong has no music industry, there is only an entertainment circle" . Beyond, feeling dishearted by the future prospects of the industry as well as their career, decided to focus on Japan, the lyrics describes their sentiments with reference to their situation at that time. I personally love Vast ocean and sky, the arrangement is perfect. The song started with a quiet piano verse, then comes beautiful string sections that builds up to an emotional soaring guitar solo. It's a beautiful rock ballad with a memorable melody and a raw heartfelt rendition. It's one of those songs that I cannot get tired of because it's so full of real emotion.Althought Vast ocean and sky was only a modest hit at the time of release, it soon became a huge smash due to the death of its lead, Koma Wong, who fell off a stage on their Japanese promo tour and sustained a fatal head injury. Ironically, the song was released not long before his accident, which coincidentally contain lyrics about "falling". The song has become the song to commerate his passing and has since become the ultimate Beyond classic as well as one of the biggest classics in cantopop.Beyond - 海闊天空 (Vast ocean and sky)From album: Rock & Roll (樂與怒) 1993 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_s-1A5kBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schitstainz 1,562 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYhStlPtEQ8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^ that was a late 80s song...and kind of an embarrassment on Anita mui's career because Priscilla Chan released her version of the song the same week and it ended up alot more popular...Priscilla's version is still seen as THE version in China...corporate events from all over china are still hiring her to sing that song Candy Lo's Kindly Break Up 好心分手 this song is like the last cantopop song to become relevant in the chinese pop industry..and the duet version with leehom wang helped make it a even bigger mega smash ...cantopop has since become irrelevant outside cantonese regions and candy lo became irrelevant in cantopop not long after. It was a compromise for her because she isn't a karaoke pop singer, but it paid off...she was not popular before this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemlock 1,537 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 i'd be interested in seeing female artist recs for this. I thought about asking you or Lightning before because i was curious about the "golden age" and i know little to nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 i'd be interested in seeing female artist recs for this. I thought about asking you or Lightning before because i was curious about the "golden age" and i know little to nothing about it. depends on what you're into...I pretty much collect CD from that era and there are plenty that I liked...i'll probably go through them one by one....and you figure out what you like I'll start with shirley Kwan, she was quite popular in the canto market... å†çºŒå‰ç·£ 1991 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beXuQM-Cvjw è¬ç¦ç‘ªåˆ©äºž Blessed Maria (duet with Anthony Wong) 1996 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kRksfMgVuM æ„›æ¨çºç¶¿ Love, hate entangled 1990 難得有情人 1994 (mandarin) å¤¢åŠ‡å ´ Dream Theatre 1993 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-I9fEX3zIA 帶我去跳舞 Take Me Dancing 1997 ä¸€åˆ‡ä¹Ÿé¡˜æ„ 1991 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LgpUkWX3ro 真å‡æƒ…話 1993 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvEVI60oj8M 繾綣星光下 embracing under the starlight 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPc7vZyCSY 雲上舞 Dancing on clouds 1997 告別戀曲 Farewell love song 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6vY9HfRTFI é€åŽ»çš„傳奇 passed away legend 1995 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ErLEtHXrjk 人生å¯æœ‰çŸ¥å·± 1995 亂了 confused 1995 (mandarin) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcQ7gD8wWe0 è«‹ä½ å…¥ç¶ºå¤¢ Please enter my wet dream 1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemlock 1,537 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 depends on what you're into...I pretty much collect CD from that era and there are plenty that I liked...i'll probably go through them one by one....and you figure out what you like I'll start with shirley Kwan, she was quite popular in the canto market... that's fine. I like a bit of everything pretty much. I'll listen to some of the stuff here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schitstainz 1,562 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^ that was a late 80s song...and kind of an embarrassment on Anita mui's career because Priscilla Chan released her version of the song the same week and it ended up alot more popular...Priscilla's version is still seen as THE version in China...corporate events from all over china are still hiring her to sing that song Candy Lo's Kindly Break Up 好心分手 this song is like the last cantopop song to become relevant in the chinese pop industry..and the duet version with leehom wang helped make it a even bigger mega smash ...cantopop has since become irrelevant outside cantonese regions and candy lo became irrelevant in cantopop not long after. It was a compromise for her because she isn't a karaoke pop singer, but it paid off...she was not popular before this song. I didn't know that. I just know that she was a legend in her own right. She was my mom's favourite. Haha. There are many versions of this song, but here's the original writer, Jonathan Lee, singing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 have to talk about faye wong, who is the definitive diva of 90s cantopop as well as cpop in general. You don't know shit about cpop if you haven't heard of her. She moved to Hong Kong in her teens from Beijing with her family. Back in China, she recorded some Teresa Teng cover version tapes, but nothing major. She started in 1989 and was moulded into a commercial pop singer and had a stage name...but after she started to get popular in the early 90s, she gained artistic control over her own music became a mega diva in chinese music...she is an icon, nowadays, she is still very popular although she hasn't released an album in like a decade..The Chinese market is really divided, there are a large large group of ppl who likes 80s/90s classics and don't care for any of the new music, large enough for those 80s/90s veteran singers to still have sold out tours all over china and still ranking high on streaming. Faye has a clear distinctive voice and vocal stylings.. newer hits 暗湧 Undercurrents 1996 æµ®èº restless 1996 (mandarin) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwC__3unXCs 無常 impermanence 1996 (mandarin) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDEPlS1PikQ 約定 engagement 1996 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fguFh3aFUOU 守è·å¤©ä½¿ guardian angel 1997 將愛 to love 2003 (mandarin) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAVtZPF7J2Q 香奈兒 CHANEL 2000 ä½ å¿«æ¨‚æ‰€ä»¥æˆ‘å¿«æ¨‚ you're happy so I'm happy 1997 (mandarin) æµæ˜Ÿ shooting star 1995 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_7E2z0k2Ck Di-dar 1995 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILUdR_WwQg8 色盲 colourblind 2001 當時的月亮 the moon back then 1999 (mandarin) 紅豆 red bean 1998 (mandarin) older hits: 棋å chesspiece 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Ip9Xle_So ä¸å†å…’嬉 no more games 1992 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO3nF51dna4 執迷ä¸æ‚” no regrets 1993 æˆ‘é¡˜æ„ I'm willing 1993 (mandarin) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f6Cv9PrU08 如風 like wind 1993 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE-SfIbro0 å¿˜æŽ‰ä½ åƒå¿˜æŽ‰æˆ‘ forgetting you is forgetting 1993 ä¸ç›¸è˜çš„約會 a date with a stranger 1992 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyjaIgGsmLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning 191 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 A lot of great songs here already. You have some good taste laiwingnang. Some older cantopop singers I really enjoy listening to are Cass Phang, Sammi Cheng and my favourite of all time, still going strong and looking great, Kelly Chen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 ^ your taste is similar to mine, that's all. The majority of the songs I chose were top 10 hits anyways. I was planning on featuring Kelly Chen next. She's leaning more towards electronic and britpop music. I listen to more classic cantopop than anything else. To me, cantopop strikes a very good balance between substance and commercial factors. the music has style and the artists sells themselves on their stage presence, character, distinctive vocals with alot of emphasis on song interpretation. Good instrumentals and distinctive melody. The only thing missing was the flashy MVs which didn't really matter during that era, but the music and the charisma of the stars was enough to make itself popular. Cantopop nowadays is a completely different story. Totally amateurish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning 191 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 ^ your taste is similar to mine, that's all. The majority of the songs I chose were top 10 hits anyways. I was planning on featuring Kelly Chen next. She's leaning more towards electronic and britpop music. I listen to more classic cantopop than anything else. To me, cantopop strikes a very good balance between substance and commercial factors. the music has style and the artists sells themselves on their stage presence, character, distinctive vocals with alot of emphasis on song interpretation. Good instrumentals and distinctive melody. The only thing missing was the flashy MVs which didn't really matter during that era, but the music and the charisma of the stars was enough to make itself popular. Cantopop nowadays is a completely different story. Totally amateurish. That's all? And I thought we were building up a real connection here. I'm hurt actually. Amatuerish is a bit over the top. Would you call Fiona Sit, Pakho Chau or Denise Ho amateurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 That's all? And I thought we were building up a real connection here. I'm hurt actually. Amatuerish is a bit over the top. Would you call Fiona Sit, Pakho Chau or Denise Ho amateurs? No, you just have great taste, that's why you recognize greatness when I show them to you. There, there...I hope you're feeling better. pakho/Fiona ....their songs are so bland to me, I keep waiting for a good memorable part to come, but it never does. and as for HOCC, i'm ok with some of her music..but not much i keep on repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Kelly Chen - Part I Lightning 2 posts above mentioned Sammi Cheng, Cass Phang and Kelly Chen, who were known mainly for their middle of the road pop music...Kelly initially was a model for ads/commercials, then turned actress, sang on a movie soundtrack that became very popular and got into a singing career. Will start with Kelly's later half of her career, her most successful period where she makes the most commercial music on the market, beat oriented music (eurodance, r&b) with a catchy chorus and dramatic ballads... Kelly was popular in cantopop and in the entire cpop as well, she was active from the mid 90s to mid 00s... She started out as a brit-pop/rock, electro pop artist, at the turn of the century when cantopop was losing its market, she started going for very commercial pop..and this was her most successful era... her hits in reverse chronological order 毫無ä¿ç•™ No Reservation 2006 沙塵滾滾 (with Jordan Chan) 2005 PHONE殺令 Phone Kill Bill 2004 å°ä¸èµ·ä¸æ˜¯ä½ Sorry, not you 2004 å«å¦† Dowry 2004 Shake Shake 2003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXGWr8MPwOY戀愛神經 love nerve 2002 有ç¦æ°£ blessed 2002https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0JVFrXvbso最愛演唱會 Favorite concert 2001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZJgQT10SmsASK 2001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjGbDEWJdEcé»žè§£ä½ ä¿‚å’ why are you like this 2001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yLH9_KAkdMéš¨èº«è½ Portable Player 2001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbdhRCDrVoä½ é€™å€‹ç”·äºº 2001https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPSewCrcWdk大日å Big Day 2000 星期五檔案 Friday File 2000 失憶周末 Memory Loss Weekend 2000https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Wffn7fjBQ花花宇宙 Paisley Galaxy 2000chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g349fOGNoO4戀愛情色 Love Colours 1999https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBtlbKGO95g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Part II... this section features all the hits and misses from the earlier part of Kelly's career... I like her earlier music more as the production is, IMO, better than her later music, the instrumental conveys the theme/meaning of the song 開始 Begin 1995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgdAamaQl0M一切很美 åªå› æœ‰ä½ (You Gave it to Me) 1995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnMrfH2jDZk寧願我會記ä¸èµ· I rather not remember 1995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0DKvPk5vxwæˆ‘æœƒæŽ›å¿µä½ I will miss you 1995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TD2Zq83LQk 誰願放手 who would let go 1995 醉迷情人 1995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXgj4k1kC3c風花雪 Wind Flower Snow 1996 懦弱 Cowardice 1996https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k6o9Wmr5eA紀念日 Memorial Day (with Dry) 1996https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A6tvT07TB8我è¦çœ‹é½£æˆ² I want to see a movie 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSn_OgSs4Hs心太軟 heart too soft 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At2lEMHXn_w情人說 My Love Says (with anthony wong) 1997 星夢情真 Stars Dreams True Love 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEoQ1D3-RmU請柬 Invitation 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Bn1URq6P0ä½ æœƒè¡å‹• 1997 迷離夜雨 Misty Night Rain 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLvZZ4qV86kDa De Dum 1998https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGJoSGhN60Aåš´é‡ Severe 1998 憎æ¨æƒ³å¿µå¦³ Hating Missing You 1998https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euCRioF-k3Iå½±ä¸æˆ‘ Reflection 1998 (from Mulan Soundtrack (cantonese version)) YOU'RE THE ONE 1998 真感覺 True Feelings 1999 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6bXF3g4FYM我敢去愛 I Dare to love 1999 éƒ½æ˜¯ä½ çš„éŒ¯ It's all your fault 1999 (remake of phil chang's "the moon's fault") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 thanks for everyone that's been making so many suggestions! so many songs to add to my chinese music library on itunes ^^ it's a shame that canto-pop isnt as big as it once was, especially 20 years ish ago. from what i heard, its a little messy nowadays, but it's nothing that can't be saved! and i dont know where to say this, so i guess ill just say this here im really grateful to the chinese translations team and hemlock and everyone else that contributes to the chinese entertainment section! it really does feel more homey and more populated with all of you working hard on material here. hopefully, one day the chinese entertainment section can have enough people looking through it so that it has its own expanded section like with korea and japan's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning 191 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 thanks for everyone that's been making so many suggestions! so many songs to add to my chinese music library on itunes ^^ it's a shame that canto-pop isnt as big as it once was, especially 20 years ish ago. from what i heard, its a little messy nowadays, but it's nothing that can't be saved! and i dont know where to say this, so i guess ill just say this here im really grateful to the chinese translations team and hemlock and everyone else that contributes to the chinese entertainment section! it really does feel more homey and more populated with all of you working hard on material here. hopefully, one day the chinese entertainment section can have enough people looking through it so that it has its own expanded section like with korea and japan's. Actually all we need is a few more chinese members of popular korean groups to go solo in the chinese music industry and this section would be huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 ^ at that point, every thread in this section will be about chinese kpop idol 1 + chinese kpop idol 2 +.....chinese kpop idol 9999..etc..and the rest of cpop stays the same... as we can see, wu yifan + zhang liyin alone is contributing to like 1/2 of the recent posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeong jaehyuns boyfriend 10,627 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 ^ at that point, every thread in this section will be about chinese kpop idol 1 + chinese kpop idol 2 +.....chinese kpop idol 9999..etc..and the rest of cpop stays the same... as we can see, wu yifan + zhang liyin alone is contributing to like 1/2 of the recent posts... Actually all we need is a few more chinese members of popular korean groups to go solo in the chinese music industry and this section would be huge! LOL mm yes but i love wuiyifan and zhangliyin too. hopefully the authentic cpop section will grow! but at the same time i dont mind seeing the others XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiwingnang 85 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 ^ I personally don't really mind, I'm not a fan of cpop these days anyways... This time, I'm going to go with someone who is more old school/traditional in terms of music style. Sally Yeh, who is of Taiwanese origin. She released a few albums in the early 80s in Taiwan..and they were old school pop /folk music that was popular in Taiwan at the time. It wasn't that successful, so she decided to turn to hong kong for her career break and she succeeded and became an a-list singer in all of cpop. Her music is on the traditional side, a mix of western folk pop & ballad along with chinese traditional and folk music. She pretty much had the adult market cornered in the 80s/early 90s while not very popular with the younger demographic..By the mid 90s, her career is on the rocks and she took a more pop route and even tried to do covers of toni braxton songs, it didn't last long. She became irrelevant soon after.Although she was one of the best selling artist during the late 80s/early 90s, Because of her more mature target , she is now pretty much forgotten unlike most of 80s/90s cantopop divas who still has an active fanbase... I personally like some of her early 90s music, it's fully of emotions and quite pretty.零時å分 10 past midnight 1984https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWin8NY2kdM長夜 My Love Good Night 1985https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCV-IyBcnYå¯’ç…™ç¿ 1986https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbyfuAz7Y0k甜言蜜語 sweet honeyed words 1987https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSU6H66uog黎明ä¸è¦ä¾† Dawn, do not come 1987 ç¥ç¦ Blessings 1988https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_I0vg-WIfM最愛是我家 Love my home the most 1989https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um30QIJ8BFMçé‡ take care 1990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdI3hKR4iPg諾言 promise 1990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKRUfl_u0E8ç„šå¿ƒä»¥ç« burn heart with fire 1990 秋去秋來 autumn goes and comes 1990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kU0gZB3XpE尋覓 Search 1990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fmSn0RYiHY瀟ç‘走一回 (mandarin) 1992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbRUsYtZ2fs紅塵 Red Dust 1992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sNV0k-IJg情人知己 Lover, Confidant 1992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIYZsjNlVE愛到分離ä»æ˜¯æ„› (duet with George Lam) 1992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndHirw838Xo曾經心痛 1993(mandarin)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZRB7_kfr0女人的眼淚 Woman's Tears 1993 (mandarin)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IjQv0cAQZoä½ ä»Šå¤©è¦èµ° You must go today 1993https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnAS1r_jBY and here goes sally yeh with her take on american pop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PUyjLh0mQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMccG4wILXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemlock 1,537 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I haven't had a chance to listen to anything yet sigh. I do appreciate it though and will try to check out some stuff here when i can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksxtryker 566 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 i was such a huge fan of Kelly Chen still a fan too some of my favs that wasn't listed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JYi1CrGJOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB1KRb3JcBc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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