[Pannchoa] Knets react to foreign fans giving Rain the cold shoulder during his performance at KCON

[My Everything]

 

ometheqoo[theqoo] RAIN'S STAGE AT K-CON LA THAT IS GETTING BAD RESPONSES

[theqoo] RAIN'S STAGE AT K-CON LA THAT IS GETTING BAD RESPONSES

bypannchoaAugust 19, 2023

There were even people who purposely turned off their lightsticks

The reason is because he always debuts idol groups with the premise of producing for them but he always abandons the group without taking any responsibility so foreign fans hate him because of that

 

original post: here

 

1. But why did Rain even attend?

 

2. I also was an A+ and I still don't like him

 

3. Rain performed too???

 

4. Why would Rain go to KCON?

 

5. Foreign fans have always known more than Korean fans. I also didn't know about this issue and just learned about itㅋㅋㅋㅋ

 

6. That's just his own karma....

 

7. But was that really the reason? Are you sure that the reactions weren't bad just because they didn't know who he was??

 

8. Foreign fans seem to be pretty well aware of his case. The kids there all like K-pop and are very invested in it 

 

9. Rain.... in KCON...?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

 

10. He deserved it

 

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[WujuLike]

lmao but rain is such a random pick for kcon, he's not that popular with international fans

[Your Biggest Fan]

I'm glad most are in agreement that this is what he deserves.

[No1]

I like a lot of his songs, and there’s no denying he’s had a legendary career…but I mean, they’re not wrong.

2 hours ago, My Everything said:

The reason is because he always debuts idol groups with the premise of producing for them but he always abandons the group without taking any responsibility so foreign fans hate him because of that

He should stop producing idols.

[drakan]

he wouldn't have abandoned cipher if they bought their albums

[Winter Bear]

Bad manners are bad manners, nothing praise worthy or justified about this behaviour. 

[BTSbiased]

So is he the P Diddy of K-Pop?

[Belkiss]

I'm surpsied that poeple like this 

I feel  so bad about him 

[babyv004]

I doubt that this is the main reason. MBLAQ have been dead for so long that probably the fans either left kpop or become fans of another group and ciipher (correct me if i am wrong on this) is not that well know and probably don't have this many fans to make this commotion. 

Don't get me wrong but I would expect this reactions for a group that is more well known and with a bigger fandom that would attend the festival, not one that is not that known and didnt even attended kcon. i really doubt that ciipher fandom would buy kcon tickets just to do this

So i have to conclude that it's most likely new kpop stans that dont know him and like to be disrespectful to older kpop artists/groups (the ones that think idols over 30 years are "hags" and should be retired already )

I stan many old groups and unfortunately is not that shocking to me those reactions turned to 1st and 2nd generation artists.
It also dont help that Rain is not anymore that popular with international kpop stans so he probably didn't had that many fans there that was attending for him

[sakurahanabira]

On 8/21/2023 at 2:54 PM, babyv004 said:

I doubt that this is the main reason. MBLAQ have been dead for so long that probably the fans either left kpop or become fans of another group and ciipher (correct me if i am wrong on this) is not that well know and probably don't have this many fans to make this commotion. 

Don't get me wrong but I would expect this reactions for a group that is more well known and with a bigger fandom that would attend the festival, not one that is not that known and didnt even attended kcon. i really doubt that ciipher fandom would buy kcon tickets just to do this

So i have to conclude that it's most likely new kpop stans that dont know him and like to be disrespectful to older kpop artists/groups (the ones that think idols over 30 years are "hags" and should be retired already )

I stan many old groups and unfortunately is not that shocking to me those reactions turned to 1st and 2nd generation artists.
It also dont help that Rain is not anymore that popular with international kpop stans so he probably didn't had that many fans there that was attending for him

there was a post on r/kpop from someone who was there and they said that there was a lack of lightstick use in general at KCON regardless of the artist performing, but that the cheers were loud when he performed Rainism and LA Song as well as during his MC segments.

[RussianRoulette]

1 hour ago, caffeinated minimalist said:

there was a post on r/kpop from someone who was there and they said that there was a lack of lightstick use in general at KCON regardless of the artist performing, but that the cheers were loud when he performed Rainism and LA Song as well as during his MC segments.

I was also at KCON (I didn’t go to the Day 2 concert though), and from my observations I personally disagree with the lack of light stick thing. I swear almost every person walking around the con had a light stick and/or at least a banner.

I think people just underestimate how much overseas fans hate rain, and it isn’t because he’s “old” or because he’s an older generation idol. He’s a problematic person and I feel like oversea fans just have a lower tolerance for his type of BS.

You can check Twitter, but people literally showed up holding “we hate rain” type of signs to the concert…

[Thigh-high feminist]

I was pleasantly surprised to see his bad bg management ways catch up to him. I think him turning around and promoting himself at Kcon directly after Cipher's issue was the straw that broke the camel's back for some folks.

People were looking down at their phones during his performance, that had to bruise his ego.

I hope he got the message 

[deobizone]

i doubt its that intentional like bc his managing or whatever. i think most current kpop fans just dont know or care ab him.

btw, would be so dumb if that was reason too like.. how bad could his management be. like he can try to give the groups enough but if groups nugu, they just arent gonna last long. im not familiar w his recent group but i google them, and being a fan of nugu a lot in past, its hard bc i seen groups sustain for more than 3 release around those sales amount. but i dontknow if that hold up in like more recent years cuz ive been not following kpop as much to be knowing like what is 'nugu sales' now cuz now groups to me whousually sold just few hundred k are selling millions with (noticable to me, at least) very little fanbase increase diff. so can only assume that w/e reason, kpop sales just inflated all around so idk if their sales really holds up as like sustainable currently. and imnot meaning it in mean way like theyre nugu so yeah they dont last. tbf, if he commit to debuting them, he can try harder and etc. but there also other factors like how saturated industry is, and more and more as time goes on i bet. and its expensive, like the act of making music, etc. i mean for rain thats prolly a drop in a bucket but generally ig. also paying for living situation.. like theres sooo much worse management there could be. no opportunity, not gven frequent enough cb, etc. sucks. but ive been fan of groups in past where company doesn't/cant pay for their ultility, on my limited research, i dont see that, so i assume its just not given cb etc thats his bad management. extra fr if they that mad at rain for that. it just doesnt work out sometime. it sucks but truth. no offense to fans of his groups if thats insensitive.

also i hate in recent yr when kpop fan claim/attempt black ocean. its disrespectful af. and it makes no sense. and everytime i seen ppl gloating or laughing ab like fk this artist look at this black ocean. its so not, like the black ocean was pitch dark. and is that funny to anyone? idr why that happened but girl, litersally pitch dark, makes me fking depressed looking at it. i can see why ciipher fans would be jaded at rain for not doing enough but it is not that disdain-able of an act imo

[AstroBaby]

On 8/21/2023 at 4:54 PM, babyv004 said:

I doubt that this is the main reason. MBLAQ have been dead for so long that probably the fans either left kpop or become fans of another group and ciipher (correct me if i am wrong on this) is not that well know and probably don't have this many fans to make this commotion. 

Don't get me wrong but I would expect this reactions for a group that is more well known and with a bigger fandom that would attend the festival, not one that is not that known and didnt even attended kcon. i really doubt that ciipher fandom would buy kcon tickets just to do this

So i have to conclude that it's most likely new kpop stans that dont know him and like to be disrespectful to older kpop artists/groups (the ones that think idols over 30 years are "hags" and should be retired already )

I stan many old groups and unfortunately is not that shocking to me those reactions turned to 1st and 2nd generation artists.
It also dont help that Rain is not anymore that popular with international kpop stans so he probably didn't had that many fans there that was attending for him

Keita who was a Ciipher member competed on Boys Planet and was one of the most popular contestants globally and if not for kvotes having additional weight would have been a ZB1 member. There were a lot of viral tweets from the ZB1 fandom saying to not support Rain for his mistreatment of ciipher/Keita. 30 year old Taemin made the crowd go crazy.

Edited August 24 by AstroBaby