[enter-talk] DON'T YOU GUYS FIND THAT THE PHYSICAL ALBUM SALES ARE WEIRD LATELY?

[drakan]

[enter-talk] DON'T YOU GUYS FIND THAT THE PHYSICAL ALBUM SALES ARE WEIRD LATELY?

 

Am I the only one who feels that way? 

The kids who are selling more than Twice, how come they're unable to go on world tour at the scale of Twice's world tour?

People are saying that the albums are bought from Chinese fans, but are they as popular as BlackPink in China, who holds the highest sales volume? Nopㅋㅋㅋ

They're f*cking weird honestly 

For example, BTS's total sales was 5M, their first week sales was 3M and their concert had 2M attendees

BlackPink's total sales was 2.8M, first week sales was 1.5M and concert had 1.5M attendees

Twice's total sales was 1.5M, first week sales was 650K and their concert had 500K attendees

If you're going to keep on shielding, look at Bigbang with 1.5M attendees, so why aren't they able to match that? And we're talking about 8 years ago, when albums were way more significant than now, so what's different? Back then, female idols selling even 100K was considered impressive

 

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original post: here

 

1. [+77, -7]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ You've written your answer in your post ㅋㅋㅋ Right now, we're in a different era than when albums were still important ㅋㅋ Right now, the general public's acknowledgement is less and less important and the core fandom became the most important. Of course, the physicla albums sales will rise too ㅋㅋㅋㅋ You're so f*cking hilarious writing your post when you have the answer yourself 

 

2. [+67, -7]

But it's just because the rich investors are able to buy f*cking lots of albums no? Especially international fans. You can see with aespa's first week sales blowing up in legendary proportions. It's all thanks to Chinese bars who are able to buy large amounts of albums that they hit daebak. Rather than a lot of people buying, it's more like a single huge investor buying lots of albums now

 

3. [+62, -8]

Grandma, stop this already, if they develop their career more in the future, they'll be able to go on world tours too 

 

4. [+58, -68]

I stopped trusting in these numbers when RV went from selling 100K to 450K ㅋㅋㅋ They had a power trip controversy and nobody was joining the fandom anymore at that point in time, so you're gonna tell me that they were able to almost 5x their figures? ㅋㅋㅋ As for aespa, China also bought 800K of those 1.1M albums, so without China's help, aespa would've sold 300K, meanwhile they weren't even able to fill the Jamsil concert with 5000 people ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Of course it's weird

 

5. [+57, -3]

Of course it's different if you only have 1 seat/person in tours, but 1 person can decide to purchase 100, 1000 or 10K albums ㅋㅋ Anyways, that's the amount of money fans are ready to invest in their singers, because that's their affection. I don't understand what's so weird about it 

 

 

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[Jollux]

It always takes a little bit until the organic album sales match concert attendees. Even though for the 4th gen, everything moves way faster than it was back in the day, thanks to how big kpop became.

Not even a kpop thing or just album sales related. There are plenty of new artists that have great streaming numbers but can't hold a concert. It takes time.

[Your Biggest Fan]

This post not too long after the SVT album dump one is just bringing home the point. Album sales and streaming numbers show how devoted fandoms are to stroking their idols' egos. Rarely does it ever prove public recognition. Concert sales and brand deals are better indicators now to prove an idol's popularity. And not luxury brand deals aimed at overseas fans either. Basic run-of-the-mill fast-food, fried chicken, ginseng drinks, convenience store brands, etc. are going to show you who the Korean public likes. Show me your faves on a packet of ramen!

Edited May 3 by Your Biggest Fan
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[Shalnark]

It's not that weird, one person can buy multiple versions of an album but can't clone themselves to show up at a concert venue...

[Guest]

albums have multiple versions and most fans buy the different versions for the different photobooks and photocards, so it's not shocking. also, fandoms and companies are extremely number obsessed nowadays, so hitting 1 million and up is considered a goal to try to achieve, even if it's not reflective of reality.

[Walmart Goddess]

Kpop is slowly imploding. Now the so called "success" is manufactured too. This is why i listen to jpop groups more. They have none of that fake sales BS and the groups feel way more organic and cohesive. I just can't care about a pretty face anymore. I need idol groups to be fully capable in their jobs. Its draining to see a 8-12 member group with barely any talent or good music. Songs/vocals sounding so CHOPPY that they will slice your ears off. And Usually i can only be bothered to care about 2 or 3 members, the rest of the members always feel like filler to me.

Kpop? More like Fake Pop. I'm sick of the industry plants, the fake sales, the fake faces, the fake personalities and the nepotism. Kpop from the early 2010's was a great time but they've lost their way now.

At this point i'm expecting other asian music markets to put out more authentic idol groups and give korea a run for their money. Kpop companies have become inept.

Edited May 4 by Walmart Goddess

[deobizone]

I'm glad when albums really becoming less important. Albums are waste of money and resources.  Fans bulk buys to collect photocard or get into fansign then just trashes the rest or donate like the needy gaf about some dumb albums. Just piling garbage on others.  It blows my mind years ago I had like 200 album.  (Albeit, multialbum versions and being a predebut loona fan and buying every version bloated this number) now I'm of mentality. My fav groups, I buy 1 album.  Ult I'll buy 2nd or like 3 version ig of one album (not really quantifiable but just saying of the tbz and izone albums I kept when dwindling down my collection bc of storage space...I have several vers of 1 album)

Fr tho. Not really on topic of how the sales don't make sense. But just do what they do in west tbh.  Have digital albums.  And limited releases of physicals for the hard core fans (a la vinyls  or tape) hell even cd here are only in jewel case. That's but thing to me,  cd and tape easy to store. Vinyls are thin, and decorational. Useful.kpop album you get a box full of crap for 1 or a few PC, maybe a cute booklet or other collectible too. It's so annoying to me the waste of it. Like the amount of bad and wasteful physicals do , outweighs the worth of physical sales by like a million..it can't be soon enough kpop industry stops wasting resource like this.  Fans will still Overbuy the album without the waste. Honestly should just sell digital, and fans can buy the lil collectibles they want. And I guess I dunno answer to fansigns..but we can do without them tbh,  most the attendees are the glorified stalkers (fansites) anw. And idols have busy enough scheds to have to entertain them for hours .Fuck albums

Edited May 4 by deobizone