Mrs. Morale 5,121 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Sorry to bring this up now especially with everything that's happening in the USA and even in my country. Do you think men should have an opinion in abortion of their children? I'm not talking about men in general but the fathers of the children. Taking two scenarios: 1. If two persons are expecting a baby. The mother wants to abort the baby, but the father doesn't. 2. If two persons are expecting a baby. The mother is ill & wants to abort the baby, but the father doesn't. ย Note they're two different scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic 6,901 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I'm not sure what your definition of ill here is. In both scenarios he's of course allowed to voice an opinion. But the end decision is always hers, and in no way should he be allowed to deny or block that decision. (nor should his consent be required).ย 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris 2,442 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I mean yeah they can discuss it but it's still her body so the decision she makes is the final one. He's not putting his life at risk like she is by carrying a baby to full term. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soft 4,388 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 They can discuss about it, but at the end of the day it's 100% her decision. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremit 4,502 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 a discussion is probably the healthy thing to do but it's the woman's body which has to go through something that is still potentially life-threatening and traumatising so it needs to be her decision. And countries need to stay the f out of it, I'm still shocked at Malta essentially wanting to let an American tourist DIE rather than abort her (non-viable) baby. That's nuts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Morale 5,121 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, Zack Morris said: I mean yeah they can discuss it but it's still her body so the decision she makes is the final one. He's not putting his life at risk like she is by carrying a baby to full term. ย 23 minutes ago, soft said: They can discuss about it, but at the end of the day it's 100% her decision. ย 52 minutes ago, Mystic said: I'm not sure what your definition of ill here is. In both scenarios he's of course allowed to voice an opinion. But the end decision is always hers, and in no way should he be allowed to deny or block that decision. (nor should his consent be required).ย Thank you guys for the responses. When I say ill I mean like something that would hurt her & the baby. Eg: endometriosis, c**cer, some reproductive illness. Just now, Eremit said: a discussion is probably the healthy thing to do but it's the woman's body which has to go through something that is still potentially life-threatening and traumatising so it needs to be her decision. And countries need to stay the f out of it, I'm still shocked at Malta essentially wanting to let an American tourist DIE rather than abort her (non-viable) baby. That's nuts. I understand there must be a discussion but what if the father is kinda forcing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abra 40,910 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I think the decision should be left to the mother but she should have a discussion with the father so he is prepared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 The father doesn't make the final decision but he should be part of the process. It would be cruel to ignore the father's wishes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic 6,901 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Mrs. Morale said: I understand there must be a discussion but what if the father is kinda forcing it. What do you mean by forcing it? Forcing the pregnant person to have the pregnancy sounds like you're describing an abusive scenario. No one should have the ability to force pregnancy on a person. 55 minutes ago, Mrs. Morale said: When I say ill I mean like something that would hurt her & the baby. Eg: endometriosis, c**cer, some reproductive illness. 56 minutes ago, Eremit said: He's allowed to voice an opinion as a discussion, but always her decision, health at risk or not.ย Edited June 27, 2022 by Mystic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,676 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I just wanna know why yall outchea fucking people yall dont wanna have kids with.. thats all i wanna know...abortion aside.. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanaReleaseYourHoldOnMe 129 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, MelanatedBeauty said: I just wanna know why yall outchea fucking people yall dont wanna have kids with.. thats all i wanna know...abortion aside.. It's 2022, a lot of people have a need for sex, out of all those people not all even have a desire for children, it's 2022, contraceptives exist..why should there be any correlation between the two.ย 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Morale 5,121 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mystic said: What do you mean by forcing it? Forcing the pregnant person to have the pregnancy sounds like you're describing an abusive scenario. No one should have the ability to force pregnancy on a person. He's allowed to voice an opinion as a discussion, but always her decision, health at risk or not.ย Let's say, they're having an discussion. He seems a bit forceful like.... "Must keep it" "You have no saying in this" "You can't do this to me" "You're selfish" "I want this child" "Why you having to do this to me" ย So on & so forth. 23 minutes ago, MelanatedBeauty said: I just wanna know why yall outchea fucking people yall dont wanna have kids with.. thats all i wanna know...abortion aside.. I don't know. I'm just saying/asking, I'm not referring to myself here. Probably they didn't have a proper discussion beforehand.ย Let's say the woman (24 years) is much younger & think she's a bit too young to be having a child. The man (36 years) is older & ready for a child. Edited June 27, 2022 by Mrs. Morale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic 6,901 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mrs. Morale said: Let's say, they're having an discussion. He seems a bit forceful like.... "Must keep it" "You have no saying in this" "You can't do this to me" "You're selfish" "Why you having to do this to me" That's not "men having an opinion", that's manipulation and abuse.ย 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexi.K 3,161 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Like others in this thread said, in this context, it's okay that men voice their opinions, but at the end, the choice is solely the woman's as it's her own body, and forcing someone to remain pregnant/give birth or abort is abuse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunheart 4,862 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Raising a baby required commitment from both sides not just the mom or just the dad. I would say the father need to be in the decision-making process. Of course, the mother could have the final word as she's the one carrying the baby, but the father have as much responsibility towards both the mother and the baby so he deserved to have his words weighed when making the decision somehow. Like I said, it's a mutual commitment so at least try to get that mutual decision. However, there's a limit to how much he could influence the decision especially involving the mother and the baby's alive percentage. Edited June 27, 2022 by eunheart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
is it just me 632 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I think yes he should have an say, if it not a life threatening situation for the mother, and she just doesn't want the child and he does then he should be able to keep it. Yes, its her body, but it's equally his child, she could not have gotten pregnant with out him. The decision should be made by both sides whether to keep the child or not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 He can voice his opinions and ideally theyโd agree, but the final decision is hers. No woman should be forced to carry for 9 months and give birth to a baby, just because he wants a kid. Heโs not the one whose body has to undergo that burden or dangers, or who will have to put their life on hold, potentially lose their career or place in school, etc.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siobhan Halo 2,769 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, is it just me said: I think yes he should have an say, if it not a life threatening situation for the mother, and she just doesn't want the child and he does then he should be able to keep it. Yes, its her body, but it's equally his child, she could not have gotten pregnant with out him. The decision should be made by both sides whether to keep the child or not. If he wants to have a go at gestating a fetus in his body he's welcome to try. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,676 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, SanaReleaseYourHoldOnMe said: It's 2022, a lot of people have a need for sex, out of all those people not all even have a desire for children, it's 2022, contraceptives exist..why should there be any correlation between the two.ย My thing is you know that one of the consequences of sex... is a child... you know with condoms there is still a possibility of you becoming pregnant so in my mind if you trult dont want to get pregnant you should be on the pill as prescribed (not missing one day here missing on day there knowing that contributes to defeating the purpose of the pill), an IUD, or the injection. If u do decide to utilize a condom as your sole means then you're aware there is still a possibility "oop i may get pregnant for this person" again I ask.. why are yall even having sex with people you wouldn't want a child with? Why are yall taking that risk with a person who... Honestly alot of yall lack self esteem and self love and thats why yall be trying to fill a hole (pun intended) with sex from aint shit people Yall really dont treasure yall selves... there is no way u can sit here and tell me you 1000% love yourself and you're giving a treasure aka your body making soul ties with rancid people and saying "its for fun!" girl buy a dildo... buy one of them machines to scratch that itch. Yall really outchea fucking low vibrational low caliber community dick people taking that risk that you know is there with this caliber of person I- The lack of accountability and awareness is- ย Alright sus Edited June 28, 2022 by MelanatedBeauty 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Morale 5,121 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MelanatedBeauty said: My thing is you know that one of the consequences of sex... is a child... you know with condoms there is still a possibility of you becoming pregnant so in my mind if you trult dont want to get pregnant you should be on the pill as prescribed (not missing one day here missing on day there knowing that contributes to defeating the purpose of the pill), an IUD, or the injection. If u do decide to utilize a condom as your sole means then you're aware there is still a possibility "oop i may get pregnant for this person" again I ask.. why are yall even having sex with people you wouldn't want a child with? Why are yall taking that risk with a person who... Honestly alot of yall lack self esteem and self love and thats why yall be trying to fill a hole (pun intended) with sex from aint shit people Yall really dont treasure yall selves... there is no way u can sit here and tell me you 1000% love yourself and you're giving a treasure aka your body making soul ties with rancid people and saying "its for fun!" girl buy a dildo... buy one of them machines to scratch that itch. Yall really outchea fucking low vibrational low caliber community dick people taking that risk that you know is there with this caliber of person I- The lack of accountability and awareness is- ย Alright sus First you're misinterpreting the question. 1. The woman wants to abort the baby. 2. No birth control is 100% effective. People use two & yet still get pregnant. Most birth control even made people sick like the injections. Some birth controls won't work because of other prescribed medications. 3. Sex is normal part if life. 4ย "why are yall even having sex with people you wouldn't want a child with?" - it's not the person isn't the right person. You love them & want a future with them, the problem is the woman isn't currently ready for a child probably for career reasons, financial reasons, mental reasons, etc. If the time is right then the woman would've been more open to the idea of having the child. Edited June 28, 2022 by Mrs. Morale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Republican 357 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) If a man doesn't want to have children, go to a clinic and do vasectomy. It's cheap (or even free depending where you live) and simple. No need convince your partner to kill a unborn child. Then you can fuck 100% raw until your dick falls apart, no condoms to restrict your pleasure. Edited June 30, 2022 by Banana Republican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Republican 357 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) This exactly what is happening now, after Roe v Wade ruling;. men are beginning to think with their brains instead of their dicks and are rushing to do vasectomies. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/06/29/abortion-vasectomies-roe-birth-control/ Edited June 30, 2022 by Banana Republican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn the Brain 233 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 If he will the principal financial supporter, his decision should matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Music Junkie 339 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Banana Republican said: If a man doesn't want to have children, go to a clinic and do vasectomy. It's cheap (or even free depending where you live) and simple. No need convince your partner to kill a unborn child. Then you can fuck 100% raw until your dick falls apart, no condoms to restrict your pleasure. STDs, though. Reminder that the population most affected by HIV/AIDS is no longer gay men, but straight men, and AIDS is just the tip of the iceberg (syphilis undergoes a resurgence in Europe since the mid 2010s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Republican 357 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, Music Junkie said: STDs, though. Reminder that the population most affected by HIV/AIDS is no longer gay men, but straight men, and AIDS is just the tip of the iceberg (syphilis undergoes a resurgence in Europe since the mid 2010s) If you have a single girlfriend, no problem to go always raw after you get a vasectomy. Never fuck somebody you don't know, get to know the person first and demand proof he/she is SDT free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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