[NB] Hybe has no intention of kicking Kim Garam out and is in private talks of settlement with the victim

[Youahaen]

Rumors suggest Hybe is in private talks of settlement with Kim Garam's victim

Article: Le Sserafim's Kim Garam suspected to be under private settlement discussions (+found to have auditioned during school violence committee trial)

Source: TBig News via YouTube

1. [+763] If she's wanted to be a singer since she was young, shouldn't she have at least attempted to live a kind life, even if it was just an act?

2. [+597] They're going to get a ton of backlash if they put her back in the group, Hybe needs to make sure they think this through

3. [+502] Hybe continues to protect the assaulter

4. [+472] The main point of this scandal is now whether Hybe is choosing to attack the victim for a second time or not. Everything about Kim Garam has already been confirmed and verified, and her innocence is no longer up for debate.

5. [+140] I'm actually amazed at her mental. The fact that she was out there going to auditions while bullying classmates at school, the shamelessness ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+250] I guess the only real way to end this scandal is to just throw money at it. Hybe's only hope is to pay off the victim enough money to make them say that it wasn't true ㅋㅋㅋ not that anyone would believe it anymore...

7. [+309] I wonder if there's more to this group than we know.. or if she has some really powerful sponsors backing her. All of this is just so weird;; Anyone can tell that the group is doing just fine without Kim Garam so why would Hybe continue to force her into the group and risk their failure? Isn't that so weird? There's definitely more to this than we're seeing.

8. [+275] Settlement and whatever aside, I just don't want to see her anymore. I won't be able to stand the fact that a kid like her is able to enjoy anything in the entertainment industry. It's not fair that only the victim's life is ruined.

9. [+71] Yeah, find a settlement or whatever and finally end this so that we can all let Kim Garam go. The majority of the fans are supportive of a 5-member group. Adding her back now is just dooming the group to a future of fandom wars between fans who support 5 and fans who support 6.

10. [+14] For even international fans to want her out of the group, you can tell that this is a serious situation. Most foreign fans have a completely different mindset from our country and are of the belief that most celebrity scandals are things 'that can happen' and are willing to give stars a pass on them (because foreign celebrities commit worse scandals and continue working just fine...). For even foreigners to have turned their backs on her means that she has no choice but to leave not only Le Sserafim but the industry for good... There's just too much evidence for even the foreigners to shield at this point.

11. [+273] Maybe Hybe will change their minds once they see Le Sserafim thrive as 5 and win awards and all of that grind to a halt once they bring her back. Hybe is a for-profit company after all, their income has to be more important than one member?

12. [+45] If Hybe is seriously trying to put all this away by offering a settlement with money, they will be condemning all victims to have to live with a false memory of what happened.

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source: netizenbuzz

 

 

Hybe reveals they have no intention of kicking Kim Garam out of Le Sserafim

 

Article: "Hybe currently has no ongoing discussions about keeping Le Sserafim a 5 member group or changing members"

Source: Idol Issue via Instagram 

1. [+731] Please discuss it, Hybe... you have nothing to gain from keeping the group like this...

2. [+482] Does Garam own 40% of Hybe's stock or something?
- [+30] If that were actually the case, she would voluntarily leave since she'd know that staying in the group would negatively impact her stock ㅋㅋ 

3. [+463] No, you guys definitely need to be discussing this

4. [+271] So short-sighted... so short-sighted

5. [+369] The longer Hybe tries to wait this out, the more precarious the situation will be for both themselves and Kim Garam, why do they not realize that?

6. [+295] At this point, I'm suspecting there's something between Kim Garam's parents and Hybe down in the roots somewhere

7. [+141] You can tell just by reading the reactions to the group promoting without her just how much she's been holding the group back all this time. Because of her, the whole group has been under scrutiny and now Hybe is trying to use them as a shield for Kim Garam. I can't stand Hybe at all.

8. [+20] Hybe is so ridiculous ㅋ

9. [+92] Just look at how hard Hybe is going for Kim Garam ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

10. [+28] They'll wait as long as they can before having her crawl back for promos again

11. [+21] Does Hybe not care for the other members at all?;

12. [+24] Hybe seriously seems so crazy right now ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

13. [+1] Soojin-ah, start rehearsing for Tomboy~

14. [+6] Even if Hybe's being bribed by Kim Garam somehow, they should still be kicking her out for the sake of their future profits...

15. [+30] People should not be letting their attention sway to BTS and Black Pink's scandal. Please keep your eyes on Kim Garam until she is forced to leave the group. Boycott Le Sserafim if you have to;; their digital ranking keeps going up, which gives them no reason to kick out Kim Garam for good. They'll just continue using her for noise marketing...

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source: netizenbuzz

 

 

 

 

[Your Biggest Fan]

If she stays, I'm going. Not supporting this group EVER and probably going to just avoid HYBE groups in general, which is a shame because I love Seventeen and am looking forward to Min HeeJin's upcoming group. TXT too, sometimes; especially when they're shading their rude junior labelmates.

[sooa_t]

what a joke

[Morgan]

the public are already against her thought lol

[YeoChin Fairies]

So lets say for some reason Hybe wants her so bad. What is SHE thinking??? What's going on in the mind of her parents??? The group probably has 7 years of contract, that's a long-ass time to receive quiet treatment when the rest of the members are being cheered on stage, long-ass time to have black oceans happening to her in concerts, hate comments popping up on every article Lesserafim is mentioned. I don't think it's gonna be possible for even the toughest human being to handle. What the hell is going on in her mind??? 

[Mrs. Morale]

"private talks of settlement with the victim" - you mean buy out the victim 

[Mrs. Morale]

12 minutes ago, YeoChin Fairies said:

So lets say for some reason Hybe wants her so bad. What is SHE thinking??? What's going on in the mind of her parents??? The group probably has 7 years of contract, that's a long-ass time to receive quiet treatment when the rest of the members are being cheered on stage, long-ass time to have black oceans happening to her in concerts, hate comments popping up on every article Lesserafim is mentioned. I don't think it's gonna be possible for even the toughest human being to handle. What the hell is going on in her mind??? 

A girl who bullied someone to the point they wanted to committed su*c*de & joked about it. And proudly admitted to it as if it was nothing. I don't think she cares. Probably on her vacation hiatus saying "f**k that b*tch".

And am sure that her parents are no different. Look at the way she is, I assume that the parent are also at fault for her behaviour. I can't imagine hearing my child was a bully & not do something to put an end to it. Her parents pull out of school & send her to another school to continue bullying students.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Mrs. Morale

[sinnfb]

A boycott from the fans seems like the best (and maybe only) solution but it's such a difficult situation because the other girls don't deserve this and shouldn't pay the price for her actions

[YeoChin Fairies]

11 minutes ago, Mrs. Morale said:

A girl who bullied someone to the point they wanted to committed su*c*de & joked about it. And proudly admitted to it as if it was nothing. I don't think she cares. Probably on her vacation hiatus saying "f**k that b*tch".

 

That's probably true. Idk if it's really Hybe clinging to the idea of keeping her or she and her rich and powerful parents/connections insisting on this but if it's the 2nd one I'm sure she's gonna regret it later on. She is young and probably over-excited about debuting. A narcissistic person like her would probably love the idea of being worshipped by millions of fans and flaunting it/bragging about it but once she realizes how even Lesserafim's own fans aren't happy about her existence, and once she actually faces them when she is on schedule rather than reading behind the screen feeling she is safe and unbothered, she would remember this day and wish she just quit and lived a quiet life instead of acting bighead and "fearless" and doing whatever it takes to stay in the group. 

[UMJI MOODS]

If she stays I want no dealings with HYBE or any subsidiary company. That includes American artists under the company's aegis. Zero support. 

[Sofs]

So, HYBE now wants to solve everything with the victim when at first they pretended it was nothing, accused her of lying and wanted to sue her... So, Garam isn't THAT innocent, right, HYBE? 

[felidae]

They know fans will stay because of their bias (that isn't garam). Ah, kpop and their hatred towards solofans......

[Sofs]

50 minutes ago, YeoChin Fairies said:

So lets say for some reason Hybe wants her so bad. What is SHE thinking??? What's going on in the mind of her parents??? The group probably has 7 years of contract, that's a long-ass time to receive quiet treatment when the rest of the members are being cheered on stage, long-ass time to have black oceans happening to her in concerts, hate comments popping up on every article Lesserafim is mentioned. I don't think it's gonna be possible for even the toughest human being to handle. What the hell is going on in her mind??? 

She probably believes in HYBE, that everything will be forgotten. Her parents are thinking about that $$$$$$. Girl barely does anything and has 3 produce members carrying the group and giving her money and fame super fast. Do you really think this isn't enough temptation? Like I said, they must believe everyone will "forget". 

[Taecoholic]

Didn't the victim side just want an apology anyway? I wonder if HYBE will step back enough to issue an official apology. If HYBE's molka claims didn't have a grain of truth, I think the victim wouldn't have even come to terms with this deal. So we can say that both sides seem to have something in their hands.

[lovelikewhitney]

37 minutes ago, YeoChin Fairies said:

That's probably true. Idk if it's really Hybe clinging to the idea of keeping her or she and her rich and powerful parents/connections insisting on this but if it's the 2nd one I'm sure she's gonna regret it later on. She is young and probably over-excited about debuting. A narcissistic person like her would probably love the idea of being worshipped by millions of fans and flaunting it/bragging about it but once she realizes how even Lesserafim's own fans aren't happy about her existence, and once she actually faces them when she is on schedule rather than reading behind the screen feeling she is safe and unbothered, she would remember this day and wish she just quit and lived a quiet life instead of acting bighead and "fearless" and doing whatever it takes to stay in the group. 

I feel like it HAS to be she has some kind of powerful connection or her parents do or they're bribing HYBE...some kind of financial benefit to them for keeping her. It makes NO sense that they're fighting this hard. The Ministry of Education made a PUBLIC statement siding with the victim in this scenario. People have reacted favorably to a 5 person group. She was incredibly off-key in both the encore stages she participated in, which is embarrassing as a singer. I just really don't see what could POSSIBLY be the benefit to Source or HYBE to keep someone in a group who has brought nothing but negative attention to herself, her group mates, and her company. There has to be something else to explain it. 

I agree, though, that her contract is a LONG time to be the most hated member in an already cutthroat industry. Fans will not forgive her for this easily. Members of other groups that are much more popular than Le Sserafim have been kicked out for lesser scandals than this. There is no way that keeping her in the group will result in anything good. 

[MelanatedBeauty]

Private settlement...

 

Man wit all this increase in pricings.. desperate times call for desperate measures ... I TOO WAS BULLIED BY KIM GARAM! 

[Moon Jellyfish]

Theories about her possible connections within HYBE aside, I do wonder if the success of the song (and album) is also playing a role as to why HYBE thinks they can survive this. I mean the song is still doing well digitally and of course the album has already sold well physically. Granted, their first comeback will likely be the 'true' test of whether they survive this or not if they end up adding her back into the group by then. And also assuming HYBE doesn't or can't provide any further evidence in her defense by that point that can turn the tide. From a fandom perspective they could likely survive because they have at least two members with a great following. But the public may very likely just to be turned off all together and refuse. 

 

41 minutes ago, Taecoholic said:

Didn't the victim side just want an apology anyway? I wonder if HYBE will step back enough to issue an official apology. If HYBE's molka claims didn't have a grain of truth, I think the victim wouldn't have even come to terms with this deal. So we can say that both sides seem to have something in their hands.

I mean both yes and no? Like obviously if the claims of the molka are true and/or HYBE does any other dirt on the accuser, then yes it would definitely be beneficial for both sides to settle this privately. But, in my opinion, if they do end up settling things privately, that doesn't necessarily prove that theory to be true either. For example, If she finally gets the apology and acknowledgement she's been searching for, then her side could deem that as satisfactory and agree that the situation is settled. Even if she does get some type of financial compensation along with it, that still doesn't necessarily mean she's sneaky either. 

 

Unfortunately for HYBE, even if there is or was some truth to their claims and they settle it, most people won't believe them still, again unless they produce any sort of proof on their parts. Most are likely going to assume they either threatened or manipulated their way out of the situation, which tends to happen sometimes whenever anything is settled 'privately' even if the situation is actually solved.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Moon Jellyfish

[Siobhan Halo]

Hybe seems pretty determined to strap Garam to Le Sserafim and blow the whole thing up.

[Firestar]

2 hours ago, Taecoholic said:

Didn't the victim side just want an apology anyway? I wonder if HYBE will step back enough to issue an official apology. If HYBE's molka claims didn't have a grain of truth, I think the victim wouldn't have even come to terms with this deal. So we can say that both sides seem to have something in their hands.

Lol, your absolute dedication to pushing the "molka" angle is amazing.

The accuser would have many reasons to settle on a deal, in that she has nothing to gain at this point. She wanted an apology, they refused, she exposed them, they threatened her with lawsuits, she dropped a warning shot of evidence, it made national news, the department of education backed her up, HYBE has shown zero evidence for their claims that Garam was also a victim, in fact they keep backsliding it more and more, while going from "she never bullied anyone" to "ok, she did, but it wasn't that bad".... the victim is winning, but.... there is no real end game beyond going to court, winning and getting.... nothing, while taking abuse from the crazy stans.

Her best move now is to wring out a settlement that includes a public apology, lawyers' fees... and maybe some money for her suffering. HYBE will eventually cave is my guess, and they'll be trying to pay more money for a mealy worded half apology that might let them keep Garam.

[jello-kitty88]

3 hours ago, MelanatedBeauty said:

Private settlement...

 

Man wit all this increase in pricings.. desperate times call for desperate measures ... I TOO WAS BULLIED BY KIM GARAM! 

[campfire]

51 minutes ago, Firestar said:

Lol, your absolute dedication to pushing the "molka" angle is amazing.

The accuser would have many reasons to settle on a deal, in that she has nothing to gain at this point. She wanted an apology, they refused, she exposed them, they threatened her with lawsuits, she dropped a warning shot of evidence, it made national news, the department of education backed her up, HYBE has shown zero evidence for their claims that Garam was also a victim, in fact they keep backsliding it more and more, while going from "she never bullied anyone" to "ok, she did, but it wasn't that bad".... the victim is winning, but.... there is no real end game beyond going to court, winning and getting.... nothing, while taking abuse from the crazy stans.

Her best move now is to wring out a settlement that includes a public apology, lawyers' fees... and maybe some money for her suffering. HYBE will eventually cave is my guess, and they'll be trying to pay more money for a mealy worded half apology that might let them keep Garam.

I hope they don’t settle but you’re right. This whole process is painful and expensive and there’s likely to be no real punishment for Garam so at least being able to cover the cost of legal fees and the time the mother spent away from work/anything whilst trying to prevent her daughter from committing suicide and watching her 24/7.

[thrutkk]

 

6 hours ago, Youahaen said:

[+140] I'm actually amazed at her mental. The fact that she was out there going to auditions while bullying classmates at school, the shamelessness ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

I also think the same. She can still upload photos on sns and reply to fan chat when her face appears on national tv, even if you are not the perpetrator it is very difficult.

[starsocks]

mess

[Guest]

i'm not surprised. i said before that HYBE knows Sakura and Chaewon's fandoms will not allow Le Sserafim to flop by boycotting, their debut sold well, it's charting well, it's #13 on the Melon chart right now - though to be fair it could be because people are checking them out as OT5, and i do think HYBE might be testing out the waters to see. it's possible their 1st comeback will not do as well, but in their minds, the debut was a success. money is HYBE's bottom line.

[Mami3chan]

as much i like sakura i think i am gonna have to boycott this group