[NB] Hybe has no intention of kicking Kim Garam out and is in private talks of settlement with the victim

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Didn't the victim side just want an apology anyway? I wonder if HYBE will step back enough to issue an official apology. If HYBE's molka claims didn't have a grain of truth, I think the victim wouldn't have even come to terms with this deal. So we can say that both sides seem to have something in their hands.

[Taecoholic]

19 hours ago, Firestar said:

Lol, your absolute dedication to pushing the "molka" angle is amazing.

The accuser would have many reasons to settle on a deal, in that she has nothing to gain at this point. She wanted an apology, they refused, she exposed them, they threatened her with lawsuits, she dropped a warning shot of evidence, it made national news, the department of education backed her up, HYBE has shown zero evidence for their claims that Garam was also a victim, in fact they keep backsliding it more and more, while going from "she never bullied anyone" to "ok, she did, but it wasn't that bad".... the victim is winning, but.... there is no real end game beyond going to court, winning and getting.... nothing, while taking abuse from the crazy stans.

Her best move now is to wring out a settlement that includes a public apology, lawyers' fees... and maybe some money for her suffering. HYBE will eventually cave is my guess, and they'll be trying to pay more money for a mealy worded half apology that might let them keep Garam.

If you think that the victim and the HYBE have no reason for refrain from publishing the entire document, you are very naive.

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44 minutes ago, Firestar said:

I think the victim likely has little to lose other than it makes it more likely she gets hit under Korean law for defamation, because it isn't a public document. There is a reason that her lawyers have threatened to release it, they know it's quite bad for HYBE. I'm sure there could be something vaguely negative about her in there, but I'm pretty sure it isn't anything particularly serious given her lawyers' willingness to bring it up, her lack of any discipline, and HYBE's vague and ever shifting allegations/insinuations. If there were really something very bad for her in there she wouldn't risk it, and HYBE would be far more direct and specific, that they started soft pedaling all their allegations when the lawyers said "we'll release it if we have to" tells me that it's nowhere near as bad as they insinuated with the "molka" stuff.

 

Edit- My general thought is that at every step of this the victim has been able to provide ample evidence that what she had been saying was true, that she has had numerous people come forward (some using their actual names) to back up her claims about Garam, and nothing she has said has been even brought into any real doubt. On the other hand, HYBE has repeatedly made assertions that were quickly disproven, outright lied until presented with evidence, and in all ways shown that nothing they say can be trusted, they haven't even been able to rally together people to defend Garam from her past (a huge red flag) by name. Anything HYBE claims should be given zero weight unless they back it up with real evidence.

I need to see and fully understand what is in that document in order to come to a full judgment about Garam. If the "victim" really did molka and changed schools without being charged with it, and if she re-transferred to the school near Garam's two months later, which she supposedly feared and wanted to stay away from, I think there are some things we don't know.