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1 hour ago, namidaone said:

So? They still signed contracts w/ different companies. Last time i checked Warner Japan is not a SMEJ subsidiary or vice versa.. And SMEJ >> Warner Japan. Whoever this ex-Sony currently Warner exec is, his influence in the Jpop industry -- while considerable enough for JYPE to sign Twice with since 2017 --  is still no match with the SMEJ CEO's, otherwise JYP would have partnered w/ Warner JP again and not Sony for NiziU. 

Johnny & Associates reigning for ages and yet CJENM still partnered with Yoshimoto Kogyo to manage not one but two Japanese boygroups.  
If you really think that CJENM convinced Yoshimoto Kogyo to partner with them due to Produce 101's impact alone -- on the very same year that news of the Mnet Produce vote rigging scandal reached Japanese media -- without CJ E&M throwing YK lots of money, then I should be the one asking you abt what you're smoking.  

We're talking abt big enough to partner with nugu CJENM in Japan here. And CJENM did partner with Vernalossom (AKS at the time) for IZ*ONE JP promos. Considering that Vernalossom is now focused on managing only international sister groups of AKB48 from now on, I wouldn't be surprised if the rumored Produce 101 revival is a new season of Produce 48.

Duh.

Where did I say Warner is a sub/affiliate of Sony? Twice > Warner was to show gratefulness to a specific person. JYPE sticking mainly to Sony is loyalty to an organization.

How might CJ ENM partner with Johnny's when the door was tightly shut? I don't know who convinced who but, for sure an audition show of this scale did not take just 1 or 2 month in preparation. The contestant application and preliminary alone took some months and the deal with the broadcaster must have been sealed before the application date could be set. The show even had already started when the rigging scandal broke.

LMFAO. Yoshimoto Kogyo is far bigger than Vernalossom. Why might CJ ENM choose Vernalossom with Yoshimoto in sight?

IZ*One double signed with both Vernalossom and Universal Music Japan for activities in Japan. Vernalossom alone could not provide such level of promotion to the group.

P.S. Common acronym of Sony Music Japan is SMJ while SMEJ is the acronym of S.M Entertainment Japan.

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9 hours ago, bzz said:

Duh.

Where did I say Warner is a sub/affiliate of Sony? Twice > Warner was to show gratefulness to a specific person. JYPE sticking mainly to Sony is loyalty to an organization.

How might CJ ENM partner with Johnny's when the door was tightly shut? I don't know who convinced who but, for sure an audition show of this scale did not take just 1 or 2 month in preparation. The contestant application and preliminary alone took some months and the deal with the broadcaster must have been sealed before the application date could be set. The show even had already started when the rigging scandal broke.

LMFAO. Yoshimoto Kogyo is far bigger than Vernalossom. Why might CJ ENM choose Vernalossom with Yoshimoto in sight?

IZ*One double signed with both Vernalossom and Universal Music Japan for activities in Japan. Vernalossom alone could not provide such level of promotion to the group.

P.S. Common acronym of Sony Music Japan is SMJ while SMEJ is the acronym of S.M Entertainment Japan.

You brought up Epic being a subsidiary of Sony in response to my post abt JYP working w/ diff companies to promote their artists.
What I'm saying is that even if we don't include Epic in the discussion, Warner and Sony are still 2 different companies,
so my statement abt JYPE working with different companies to promote their artists in JP still stands.
You'll have to find sth better than subsidiaries or the fave ex-Sony Warner exec to disprove my statement entirely. 

Where did I say CJ ENM might partner with Johnny? I only brought up Johnny and Vernalossom in my previous post as examples of companies who even have multiple  subsidiaries  partnering with different companies. You nitpicking Vernalossom as not a big company (lol) just because Johnny or Yoshimoto is bigger, doesnt weaken my statement at all. Rather it proves my point even further because it shows that a JP company doesn't have to be big to switch partners w/o suffering backlash fr their previous partners. 

P.S loool only kpop fans commonly refer to SMEJ as SM Entertainment Japan.
Meanwhile this is what's in Sony Music Entertainment Japan's own corporate profile [link

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Sony Music Entertainment (Japan), or SMEJ, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Group Corporation and holds all shares and serves as headquarters for the management and administration of all Sony Music Group (Japan) subsidiaries.
Operations include marketing and tie-ins, finding and developing artists, various entertainers, and creators, building our businesses abroad, as well as creating new opportunities in the entertainment business for digital content, live entertainment, music streaming, and sports entertainment.

Even Billboard articles and posts in r/jpop refer to SMEJ as Sony Music Entertainment (Japan)

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