youtuber that worked on AOA - Heart Attack MV made a video 4 years ago exposing Mina shitty attitude on set

[babyv004]

i think he is from Chile. He appeared as a extra actor/supporting actor on "Hear Attack" MV. 

 

Here the video cut with eng sub:

it seems that he was right about her being a shitty person and is arrogant with the crew members

he talked about the other members too and the only one he didn't like it was Mina. giving the recent events to me this says a lot.

I don't believe Mina at all and more and more are coming with receipts exposing that she lies a lot and is not a nice person
 

the full video in spanish witthout subtitles (around 3:15): 

 

this video aged so well

Edited September 9, 2021 by babyv004

[hee_woo]

AP:

Youtuber recalls working with AOA and having a bad experience with Mina (a video from 2017) - Random - OneHallyu

he's Chilean I think, not Mexican.

[rananicolee]

And this was back in 2017. Wow. 

[babyv004]

21 minutes ago, no_one said:

AP:

Youtuber recalls working with AOA and having a bad experience with Mina (a video from 2017) - Random - OneHallyu

he's Chilean I think, not Mexican.

Sorry, I didn't know that was already posted here. 
it is not exactly my fault bc it was posted on another place (under Neighborhood) and not on celebrities news and gossip under korean entertainment

 

i thought he was from mexico bc as he didn't have information on the channel so I took a quick look and found some videos from mexico but now that i am seeing more carefully there is also videos with chile on the title
i will change it bc i think he went on mexico on a trip 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by babyv004

[hee_woo]

2 minutes ago, babyv004 said:

Sorry, I didn't know that was already posted here. 
it is not exactly my fault bc it was posted on another place (under Neighborhood) and not on celebrities news and gossip under korean entertainment

 

i thought he was from mexico bc as he didn't have information on the channel so I took a quick lookin and found some videos from mexico but now that i am seeing more carefully there is also videos with chile on the title
i will change it bc i think he went on mexico on a trip 

 

 

it's ok, your thread is more complete and it's on the right category lol, I can tell he's not Mexican by his accent, but yeah, I don't really think it matters that much lol, just wanted to point that out.

[seokii]

"I mean, if we all went one way, then she was definitely going to go the opposite way"

ohhhhh my godddddd

if you've been around someone with a personality type like this... you already know. I don't have to say it. Hahaha

[CannotBNamed]

God, I feel so bad for these girls, the shit they had to put with I would have never guessed it. I hope they still manage to continue their careers.

[Thigh-high feminist]

Give the AOA and T-ara members their careers and popularity back. TWICE, we have been bamboozled by a venomous member who destroyed a once very popular girl group. I'm done with reading Mina's words in articles, watching videos about her. Anything Mina. I'm 100% done with giving her any more attention. SHE'S A VICIOUS, MESSY BITCH.

[StepOnMeJas]

Her being a mess still doesn’t excuse Jimin being terrible. I only feel bad for the other 5 girls who were going through this 

[babyv004]

1 hour ago, StepOnMeJas said:

Her being a mess still doesn’t excuse Jimin being terrible. I only feel bad for the other 5 girls who were going through this 

But the thing is: where is the proof that jimin really bullied her?

we only have her own words which by now means nothing. she said she have proofs but so far didn't show us anything (which lead me to believe that she have nothing) but otherwise we have plenty of proofs that mina lies, manipulates and gaslighting everyone around her. To me the way she acts is more the behavior of someone that is a bully than a victim and i dont think a person with a shitty personality like her would let anyone bullying her. bullies tend to pick on people that are unable to respond back/defend themselves

what i think it happened is that everyone was scared of Mina's threats to take her own life and started to do whatever she say/want to not piss her out but jimin tried to be a strict leader and still called her out in her bs (which is not bullying). mina didn't like that so started internalize that jimin bullied her. that or she is just petty bc of AOA's popularity rise bc of "queendom" and wanted to destroy her former group so lied that jimin bullied her

you have to understand this it is work. they are not there to just have fun and idols in groups are rarely friends, they are co-workers. if someone screw the team job they need to be scolded. is not that way that works in the real life? you screwed it up, get called out and if you continue doing it you get fired. 
i also noticed that the leaders in kpop are usually the ones that get a lot of pressure by the company/staff members so if there is a member being all lazy or problematic they will be the ones that will get yelled out (in worst scenarios may be hitted/punished if the company is abusive)

if you ask me i think the main fault here goes to FNC that pretty sure knew that mina was unstable and instead of not hiring her, they accepted her in the company as a trainee and still added her to the group

Anyway, opinions are all divided on this matter but the only thing i think everyone agrees by now is that Mina suffers from some mental disorders that are not just depression (maybe it is borderline personality disorder maybe she is a sociopath or another thing) and she need to get help which don't seems she wants at all.

i hope that she gets at some point that she is a trouble to everyone including herself and decided to go to rehab. people say that forcing her to be admitted to a rehabilitation center will not help at all so i really hope she comes to her senses and go there by herself

Edited September 10, 2021 by babyv004

[hee_woo]

36 minutes ago, rananicolee said:

Jimin admitted it. 

Per her apology:

"I can’t express everything in a short post but I am very, very sorry. I was lacking as a leader and I did wrong. As I carry this regret and sense of guilt"

she apologized for being a bad leader, not for bullying her, remember her initial reaction was "novel/fiction". And even in the convos released by dispatch, Jimin still says she doesn't remember. Seems more like Mina has been pressuring and gaslighting Jimin into admitting she bullied her.

Edited September 10, 2021 by no_one

[rananicolee]

Just now, no_one said:

she apologized for being a bad leader, not for bullying her, remember her initial reaction was "novel/fiction". And even in the convos released by dispatch, Jimin still says she doesn't remember. Mina has been pressuring and gaslighting Jimin into admitting she bullied her.

I remember that but she alluded to the bullying in her apology. BUT I am not on Mina's side before anyone thinks I am. She said she did wrong. 

What I do think though? Mina antagonized Jimin in the texts that were leaked the other day to where Jimin couldn't come out with her side. 

[Jikrytae]

2 hours ago, rananicolee said:

I remember that but she alluded to the bullying in her apology. BUT I am not on Mina's side before anyone thinks I am. She said she did wrong. 

What I do think though? Mina antagonized Jimin in the texts that were leaked the other day to where Jimin couldn't come out with her side. 

I don’t think Mina had anything to do with it. Jimin was likely pressured by the company to “admit” guilt and not share her side of the story, just like all the other members who’ve been silent. By the time she agreed (or was forced) to retire, having a public back and forth with Mina wouldn’t have helped her much and could’ve made things worse. Luckily for her, Mina has exposed herself in the time since. 

[rananicolee]

1 minute ago, Jikrytae said:

I don’t think Mina had anything to do with it. Jimin was likely pressured by the company to “admit” guilt and not share her side of the story, just like all the other members who’ve been silent. By the time she agreed (or was forced) to retire, having a public back and forth with Mina wouldn’t have helped her much and could’ve made things worse. Luckily for her, Mina has exposed herself in the time since. 

No I'm talking about the texts that were leaked of Mina like straight up harassing Jimin AFTER she apologized (Jimin didn't respond. I wouldn't have either) and called her Samuel L Jackson and mocked her sex life. Those texts were the ones where she antagonized Jimin. Mina should have left well enough alone. 

[headway]

I wouldn't be surprised that the same shit happened in APRIL. You have some super sensitive person that needs a lot of attention.

There is a line and maybe it was crossed in AOA and APRIL and maybe it wasn't. Also the frequency matters too. If its once a year you yell at someone, as sometimes people have a very bad day, vs everyday.

[camilocorream]

she has grown into an unstopabble monster, she needs to put in rehab

[panqueque]

13 minutes ago, headway said:

I wouldn't be surprised that the same shit happened in APRIL. You have some super sensitive person that needs a lot of attention.

There is a line and maybe it was crossed in AOA and APRIL and maybe it wasn't. Also the frequency matters too. If its once a year you yell at someone, as sometimes people have a very bad day, vs everyday.

 

6 hours ago, Thigh-high feminist said:

Give the AOA and T-ara members their careers and popularity back. TWICE, we have been bamboozled by a venomous member who destroyed a once very popular girl group. I'm done with reading Mina's words in articles, watching videos about her. Anything Mina. I'm 100% done with giving her any more attention. SHE'S A VICIOUS, MESSY BITCH.

T-ara April and now AOA have VERY different situations:

- T-ara scandal was something the PUBLIC fabricated to tear T-ara down, and Hwayoung took the opportunity to look like a saint, even in her following interviews she admitted it was more like not liking someone at work rather than bullying. The public ruined t-ara trying to see things that didn't exists.

- April did bully Hyunjoo, not because they didn't like her but for her lack of work ethic for their debut. It seems to me most of them were traumatized by baby kara and were desperate to debut, plus the company put a lot of pressure to the girls, so if one wasn't doing so well they saw it as a thread to the group. The only at fault is that shitty company for not interfere when the things were going down. Instead of preparing them mentally and try to make them work as a team (they were still on their teens!!) they just let them fight each other.

- AOA is a complicated case, it seems that none of the girls were on good terms with each other. Is unclear that Jimin bullied Mina since they are no evidence for both parts, no one has cleared Jimin or accused her besides Mina. However we know they were not in good terms, Mina is a very unstable person and FNC didn't give a shit if they were fighting. If Mina has attitude issues is not evidence of her not being bullied. The lesson here is companies don't care about idol's mental health, the AOA girls have gone through so much shit, MAYBE IF FNC DID SOMETHING this would not have happened.

[Thigh-high feminist]

45 minutes ago, panqueque said:

 

T-ara April and now AOA have VERY different situations:

- T-ara scandal was something the PUBLIC fabricated to tear T-ara down, and Hwayoung took the opportunity to look like a saint, even in her following interviews she admitted it was more like not liking someone at work rather than bullying. The public ruined t-ara trying to see things that didn't exists.

- April did bully Hyunjoo, not because they didn't like her but for her lack of work ethic for their debut. It seems to me most of them were traumatized by baby kara and were desperate to debut, plus the company put a lot of pressure to the girls, so if one wasn't doing so well they saw it as a thread to the group. The only at fault is that shitty company for not interfere when the things were going down. Instead of preparing them mentally and try to make them work as a team (they were still on their teens!!) they just let them fight each other.

- AOA is a complicated case, it seems that none of the girls were on good terms with each other. Is unclear that Jimin bullied Mina since they are no evidence for both parts, no one has cleared Jimin or accused her besides Mina. However we know they were not in good terms, Mina is a very unstable person and FNC didn't give a shit if they were fighting. If Mina has attitude issues is not evidence of her not being bullied. The lesson here is companies don't care about idol's mental health, the AOA girls have gone through so much shit, MAYBE IF FNC DID SOMETHING this would not have happened.

Who brought up April? I was referring solely to T-ara and AOA. And Mina and Hwayoung were/are super messy and manipulative.

Btw, I didn't skull you.

[Blood Orange]

at this point, no one should be surprised that she’s a shitty person. she’s given us more than enough evidence to know it. girl ain’t shit and treats those around her terrible. 

never going to forget how she attacked the ex gf of that one guy making all kinds of fake claims. even brought in the girl’s dad into the situation claiming he threatened to harm her when he never even talked to her once. she ain’t shit. 

[panqueque]

3 minutes ago, Thigh-high feminist said:

Who brought up April? I was referring solely to T-ara and AOA. And Mina and Hwayoung were/are super messy and manipulative.

Btw, I didn't skull you.

It was a response for the both quotes.

Mina is manipulative however as none of the AOA members have state anything I think the situation is still ambiguous. Hwayoung is a terrible person but she didn't create the scandal, it was an online post that put "evidence" of T-ara "bullying" Hwayoung. The public really quick turned their backs on T-ara and Hwayoung took the opportunity to make herself look good. Before that she just didn't have a good relationship with her members, just like work. People often forget that they made public campaigns to took T-ara off TV, when it was confirmed by multiple sources by that time in the company + T-ara + even some hwayoung interviews that it wasn't bullying.

[headway]

1 hour ago, panqueque said:

 

T-ara April and now AOA have VERY different situations:

...

- April did bully Hyunjoo, not because they didn't like her but for her lack of work ethic for their debut. It seems to me most of them were traumatized by baby kara and were desperate to debut, plus the company put a lot of pressure to the girls, so if one wasn't doing so well they saw it as a thread to the group. The only at fault is that shitty company for not interfere when the things were going down. Instead of preparing them mentally and try to make them work as a team (they were still on their teens!!) they just let them fight each other.

...

How are you so sure that April did bully Hyunjoo? Maybe the same thing like Mina will happen in a years time. I believe Hyunjoo has already been caught out on some of her claims.Agency staff have labelled her as "sensitive", which is a nice way of saying she is mentally ill.

[Blood Orange]

8 hours ago, StepOnMeJas said:

Her being a mess still doesn’t excuse Jimin being terrible. I only feel bad for the other 5 girls who were going through this 

Mina literally tried to do something similar to her then boyfriend’s ex-girlfriend. she showed she was not above lying and manipulating to try to tarnish someone’s reputation. the ex-girlfriend’s dad was trending on naver because of Mina’s false accusations and the guy is just a regular person who doesn’t have a platform to defend himself. if the ex-girlfriend hadn’t come out and cleared things up with the evidence she luckily had, he would have been ruined. whatever Jimin did, I’m more than sure that Mina made it more extreme than it actually was. she fibs a lot. Jimin is probably not without faults, but the degree that Mina said it was should be questioned imo. like she’s done things that can’t be excused by her just being a messy person.

I was on mina’s side originally until the ex-girlfriend situation and her constantly bringing up Jimin’s sex life to degrade her. those kind of things speak for themselves.

Edited September 10, 2021 by Blood Orange

[leqant]

Also the guy said good things about Seolhyun and Chanmi.  I don't really know what he said about them exactly since I am not fluent in Spanish so if any Spanish speaker can translate more accurately what he said about them (along with any other highlights) that would be great and thank you in advance.  

[panqueque]

7 minutes ago, headway said:

How are you so sure that April did bully Hyunjoo? Maybe the same thing like Mina will happen in a years time. I believe Hyunjoo has already been caught out on some of her claims.Agency staff have labelled her as "sensitive", which is a nice way of saying she is mentally ill.

I'm not saying Hyunjoo is a saint either, but taking account the standards on work ethic in korea I'm pretty sure she was to some extend bullied.

• Hyunjoo trained for 2 years in DSP, even though she didn't participate in Baby Kara she was still affected by it. 
• She wasn't mentally prepared to debut but she probably thought that it was her last chance. (DSP only debuted Kard after April)
• Since her issues weren't treated, she constantly disappeared schedules during their debut, the company didn't scold her since they knew she was sensitive (this is proven with how the company knew her state but the group didn't).  
• The other members started to see as a lack of work ethic and special treatment (the staff, the letters and the interviews with april all repeat how irresponsable she was), so they started to resent Hyunjoo and took "measures themselves". This probably is when the bullying actually happened. All the incidents were confirmed by both parties, but each have different versions. It can be see in their April schedules how they treated Hyunjoo as like she wasn't there (I watched the clips and the episodes, and they treat her poorly at best).
• The bullying altered more her mental state which led to her departure to the group (the hospital incident which was proven), the company only saw the members not getting along and didn't interfere until now. 

The members of April were suffering too, but the thing is DSP didn't interfere before when they knew Hyunjoo was not okay. April were a bunch of teens in a terrible situation they couldn't handle so obviously the worst outcome happened. Hyunjoo matured a lot after her time in April and had time to be treated, her team mates of UNI.T still support her and have a good work relationship. While I think Hyunjoo was bullied, I don't think April are mostly at fault but rather their stupid company.

I repeat is not the same as AOA, we still don't know the whole picture yet since no sides have provided solid proof. Nobody has come and defended Jimin yet, the members haven't stated anything. Mina still hasn't been treated and she will continue to do things until someone comes forward with the whole picture, even if she says the truth or is lying. We only know Mina is really an unstable person.

[panqueque]

58 minutes ago, leqant said:

Also the guy said good things about Seolhyun and Chanmi.  I don't really know what he said about them exactly since I am not fluent in Spanish so if any Spanish speaker can translate more accurately what he said about them (along with any other highlights) that would be great and thank you in advance.  

He only interacted with those three, he said:

• Seolhyun is nice person, very simple in a good way.
• Mina was arrogant and distant (he said she needed to change her attitude lol)
• Chanmi was the best and was full of good energy on the set.