panqueque 286 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, headway said: I wouldn't be surprised that the same shit happened in APRIL. You have some super sensitive person that needs a lot of attention. There is a line and maybe it was crossed in AOA and APRIL and maybe it wasn't. Also the frequency matters too. If its once a year you yell at someone, as sometimes people have a very bad day, vs everyday. 6 hours ago, Thigh-high feminist said: Give the AOA and T-ara members their careers and popularity back. TWICE, we have been bamboozled by a venomous member who destroyed a once very popular girl group. I'm done with reading Mina's words in articles, watching videos about her. Anything Mina. I'm 100% done with giving her any more attention. SHE'S A VICIOUS, MESSY BITCH. T-ara April and now AOA have VERY different situations: - T-ara scandal was something the PUBLIC fabricated to tear T-ara down, and Hwayoung took the opportunity to look like a saint, even in her following interviews she admitted it was more like not liking someone at work rather than bullying. The public ruined t-ara trying to see things that didn't exists. - April did bully Hyunjoo, not because they didn't like her but for her lack of work ethic for their debut. It seems to me most of them were traumatized by baby kara and were desperate to debut, plus the company put a lot of pressure to the girls, so if one wasn't doing so well they saw it as a thread to the group. The only at fault is that shitty company for not interfere when the things were going down. Instead of preparing them mentally and try to make them work as a team (they were still on their teens!!) they just let them fight each other. - AOA is a complicated case, it seems that none of the girls were on good terms with each other. Is unclear that Jimin bullied Mina since they are no evidence for both parts, no one has cleared Jimin or accused her besides Mina. However we know they were not in good terms, Mina is a very unstable person and FNC didn't give a shit if they were fighting. If Mina has attitude issues is not evidence of her not being bullied. The lesson here is companies don't care about idol's mental health, the AOA girls have gone through so much shit, MAYBE IF FNC DID SOMETHING this would not have happened. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panqueque 286 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thigh-high feminist said: Who brought up April? I was referring solely to T-ara and AOA. And Mina and Hwayoung were/are super messy and manipulative. Btw, I didn't skull you. It was a response for the both quotes. Mina is manipulative however as none of the AOA members have state anything I think the situation is still ambiguous. Hwayoung is a terrible person but she didn't create the scandal, it was an online post that put "evidence" of T-ara "bullying" Hwayoung. The public really quick turned their backs on T-ara and Hwayoung took the opportunity to make herself look good. Before that she just didn't have a good relationship with her members, just like work. People often forget that they made public campaigns to took T-ara off TV, when it was confirmed by multiple sources by that time in the company + T-ara + even some hwayoung interviews that it wasn't bullying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panqueque 286 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, headway said: How are you so sure that April did bully Hyunjoo? Maybe the same thing like Mina will happen in a years time. I believe Hyunjoo has already been caught out on some of her claims.Agency staff have labelled her as "sensitive", which is a nice way of saying she is mentally ill. I'm not saying Hyunjoo is a saint either, but taking account the standards on work ethic in korea I'm pretty sure she was to some extend bullied. Hyunjoo trained for 2 years in DSP, even though she didn't participate in Baby Kara she was still affected by it. She wasn't mentally prepared to debut but she probably thought that it was her last chance. (DSP only debuted Kard after April) Since her issues weren't treated, she constantly disappeared schedules during their debut, the company didn't scold her since they knew she was sensitive (this is proven with how the company knew her state but the group didn't). The other members started to see as a lack of work ethic and special treatment (the staff, the letters and the interviews with april all repeat how irresponsable she was), so they started to resent Hyunjoo and took "measures themselves". This probably is when the bullying actually happened. All the incidents were confirmed by both parties, but each have different versions. It can be see in their April schedules how they treated Hyunjoo as like she wasn't there (I watched the clips and the episodes, and they treat her poorly at best). The bullying altered more her mental state which led to her departure to the group (the hospital incident which was proven), the company only saw the members not getting along and didn't interfere until now. The members of April were suffering too, but the thing is DSP didn't interfere before when they knew Hyunjoo was not okay. April were a bunch of teens in a terrible situation they couldn't handle so obviously the worst outcome happened. Hyunjoo matured a lot after her time in April and had time to be treated, her team mates of UNI.T still support her and have a good work relationship. While I think Hyunjoo was bullied, I don't think April are mostly at fault but rather their stupid company. I repeat is not the same as AOA, we still don't know the whole picture yet since no sides have provided solid proof. Nobody has come and defended Jimin yet, the members haven't stated anything. Mina still hasn't been treated and she will continue to do things until someone comes forward with the whole picture, even if she says the truth or is lying. We only know Mina is really an unstable person. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panqueque 286 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, leqant said: Also the guy said good things about Seolhyun and Chanmi. I don't really know what he said about them exactly since I am not fluent in Spanish so if any Spanish speaker can translate more accurately what he said about them (along with any other highlights) that would be great and thank you in advance. He only interacted with those three, he said: Seolhyun is nice person, very simple in a good way. Mina was arrogant and distant (he said she needed to change her attitude lol) Chanmi was the best and was full of good energy on the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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