[Discussion] People always want what they can't have. (about CCP recent ban)

[satoori]

"humans always want what they can't have"...

unpopular opinion: the ban in china will only make cfans more obssesed.

just like how cfans have been pirating entertaiment for years, they will probably figure out ways to continue spending/sending their money overseas (for kpop)

 

[satoori]

fyi - this whole restricting kpop thing isn't new...

 

May 22, 2021 - China’s Weibo Social Media Bans BTS Fan Accounts As ‘Butter’ Single Blows Up YouTube

Weibo, a Chinese government-controlled social media service, is banning prominent accounts for fans of the South Korean pop group BTS.

The Chinese outlet Global Times said Friday that Weibo banned seven BTS accounts and ten pop music fan accounts. The move comes as the group’s single, Butter, set a record on YouTube with 21 million views in an hour, breaking the site record held by the group’s previous single, Dynamite. The video, the group’s second English-language effort, now has more than 139 million views.

The Chinese government has been waging a campaign for years against K-pop and Chinese imitators of the style, claiming that the image of young men wearing cosmetics and sporting delicate beauty and high fashion threaten the future of the nation.

BTS, arguably the most popular group in the world, is a particular target. Last year, Chinese media condemned the group after member RM thanked the government of the United States and its military for its “sacrifices” in the Korean War.

“China’s Twitter-like Weibo announced on Friday it has banned 10 accounts of fan clubs from posting for 30 days. The accounts were suspended for encouraging inappropriate behaviors including cyberbullying and improper fundraising and voting,” the Global Times claimed.

Ironically, China held a competition earlier this year to create its own boy group, The program was held on the Chinese online medium Tencent and resulted in INTO1, a group that will make its formal debut after recording original music following the end of the program in April. cr.

[rananicolee]

Well yeah. Take NK youths for example. They still find a way to listen to the kpop. GD's usb album was very popular there thanks to the USB packaging. Kim Jongun is threatened by BTS that he's trying HARDER than ever to have the youth put to death for listening to kpop now. 

[Mom]

Of course it will. 

It’s been proven time, time and time again with governments who are under the impression that you can regulate to that extent. 
 

Whether it be vice, or music, or thought. 
 

 

[Bitoku]

The hallyu ban has been going on for ages now, i forgot when EXO stopped promoting in China, was it 2016? It's getting more and more intense. It seems they want to eliminate any international influence on their youth and make them worship their own government.

[Your Biggest Fan]

2 hours ago, rananicolee said:

Well yeah. Take NK youths for example. They still find a way to listen to the kpop. GD's usb album was very popular there thanks to the USB packaging. Kim Jongun is threatened by BTS that he's trying HARDER than ever to have the youth put to death for listening to kpop now. 

Yup. If NK can't stop people from listening to K-pop what make Winnie the Pooh think he can? I can see people smuggling Korean music, drama and fashion into China in the future. Wouldn't be surprised if a healthy black market for these items started to grow.

[rananicolee]

7 minutes ago, Your Biggest Fan said:

Yup. If NK can't stop people from listening to K-pop what make Winnie the Pooh think he can? I can see people smuggling Korean music, drama and fashion into China in the future. Wouldn't be surprised if a healthy black market for these items started to grow.

Exactly. And NK gets their kpop media from China so like this whole thing won’t last like they think. 

[Josaline]

Let's see what happens after these 30-day bans, I think we'll have a better idea after that.

[echobunny]

no, the ban itself won't do much. it's the propaganda that will do the trick. if china would make it their mission to aggressively hinder its people to listen and watch entertainment contend they deem bad/harmful, the next generation of kids won't get the same attachment to, for example, k-pop idols. in their minds it would no longer be a fun hobby, it would be something to be wary of, since it's virtually illegal.

will china go that far though? idk

Edited September 7, 2021 by echobunny

[satoori]

2 hours ago, echobunny said:

no, the ban itself won't do much. it's the propaganda that will do the trick. if china would make it their mission to aggressively hinder its people to listen and watch entertainment contend they deem bad/harmful, the next generation of kids won't get the same attachment to, for example, k-pop idols. in their minds it would no longer be a fun hobby, it would be something to be wary of, since it's virtually illegal.

will china go that far though? idk

except chinese kids are no different then the rest of world. they like what's cool, edgy or popular globally too. so as long as kpop continue to stay relevant world wide it will always be difficult for china propagana to block it completely.

on top of that, fans will continue to travel overseas for concerts and etc.

[Walmart Goddess]

hopefully these corrupt kpop companies get the message and start boycotting all Chinese members now. Cast more Japanese or Taiwanese members if they are needing foreign members. 

Or do whats never been done before and cast Mongolian. Thats an east asian country that hardly gets any shine!

[pace]

I don't think the ban will make cfans more obsessed because their behaviors are now tied to the artists they support, which is why artists have the responsibility of leading the fandom in the right direction. I doubt fans will want to put their faves in danger of being punished for not doing enough to remove the toxicity of fandom culture.

 

Also, just to clarify, these new rules weren't specifically aimed at kpop groups but the spectrum of the new rulings do affect kpop fans in China. I think the new rules mentioned that fundraising internationally wouldn't be allowed on top of not being allowed domestically either. If anyone has followed c-ent and seen how all of this snowballed to the results now, it's no surprise that China decided to do something to curb the fandom culture. Plus, it's not just idol groups that have been affected--they have even taken measures against the fandom culture of actors too.

[Blood Orange]

no, it’s not going to be as easy as them donating money to others to continue things. anyone that’s caught planning and trying to set up bulk buying, birthday projects, etc. will get banned/suspended from weibo and other accounts. the problem here is that you can’t exactly get something together if you aren’t even allowed to plan it. not to mention there’s other regulations that will affect how things operate within fandoms from now on. this isn’t like past times. it’s a lot more severe. fans will figure out a way around it, I’m sure of it, but it’s gonna be tough for them. it’s not as easy as y’all are trying to make it. not at all.

its also not going to make them more obsessed. I can see some of them losing interest depending how hard it is to get content and such. if anything I see celebrities like luhan, wang yibo, yang yang, etc. get a surge of new fans. because those guys are going to still be around. kpop companies and kpop groups have been banned from having a careers there. (who knows wtf this means for wayv tbh).

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44 minutes ago, pace said:

I don't think the ban will make cfans more obsessed because their behaviors are now tied to the artists they support, which is why artists have the responsibility of leading the fandom in the right direction. I doubt fans will want to put their faves in danger of being punished for not doing enough to remove the toxicity of fandom culture.

 

Also, just to clarify, these new rules weren't specifically aimed at kpop groups but the spectrum of the new rulings do affect kpop fans in China. I think the new rules mentioned that fundraising internationally wouldn't be allowed on top of not being allowed domestically either. If anyone has followed c-ent and seen how all of this snowballed to the results now, it's no surprise that China decided to do something to curb the fandom culture. Plus, it's not just idol groups that have been affected--they have even taken measures against the fandom culture of actors too.

bars were reporting each other days ago. that’s why 30 of them got suspended. they’re not going to be in their best behavior. they’re already showing that.

not to mention during kyungsoo’s debut, his bars were reported and suspended for organizing album preorder sales or something like that. some of them are going to sabotage each other. 

and yeah, this isn’t only targeted to kpop. gaming has also been regulated. people can only game for an hour each day or something like that for now on. so many people are going to be affected by these regulations. 

Edited September 8, 2021 by Blood Orange