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my opinion is.....

The UGLY TRUTH about MNET selection process....MAYBE....

Those cells' system is really important ....not because it gives you the ILLUSION that the selection is RANDOM ,mnet don't have any control on which member should be in the group because THE CELL system really random and base on the member decision....oh MNET....you sneaking  snake ...

Like I say before, the JUDGE play important role in this show....why?

 

If you look closely in the selection method...you will found out...the judge must be the first process in selection....

Afterward is the cell system ....where the trainee is the one who need to choose WISELY......

And lastly it always the public audience voting result....

The key to mnet manipulation is not the system method in selecting....it's THE SEQUENCE....

AT FIRST IT MUST BE THE JUDGE......then the cell system....lastly is the voting.....so why? Why cannot be the cell first?or the voting first?

Because the judge will select base on the skill and their STAR talent/quality! ...is there any guarantee they will do this with this purpose only? ....NO...mnet still have the probability to ask the judge to pick someone that MNET WANT....but we dont have that proof yet BUT the probability this will happen is still exist....

If you notice in ep 2, those top 3 in top 9 are no 1 Japanese, no 2 Korean no 3 a Chinese.....and we all know they have to pick a cellmate that must be difference nation from them thus creating theory that the final lineup must be 3 Japanese, 3 Chinese ,3 Korean....why this theory exits? Because the  cell system mention that if one of their cell member eliminated they all will be eliminated, and they need to pick 3 difference nations to be in 1 cell team..you cannot be 2 Korean 1 Japanese, or 2 Chinese 1 Korea, or vice versa , and like i say if one member in the cell being eliminated the whole cell team will be eliminated so ....FEAR is a powerful manipulation and control tool....

Top 3 in top 9 will pick the best member only! Because they want to survive, they fear of elimination! Therefore, it's already decided when the judge pick who to be top 3 in top 9 .....because top 3 will pick other top member to survive....and you can notice it  that in those top 3 the judge put 1 Japanese, 1 Korean, 1 Chinese respectively.... and in the show you can see the judge seem to know who this top 9 members will choose...someone who can help them wining this show! 

So what about voting result?? mnet need this to cross-check if the top cell member that being chosen by top 3 are love by the public.......they don't need to look only top 9 voting result....they can extend it to top 30 voting result because top 30 out of 99 is quite high when consider the ratio is 1/3 ,  1/3 rank higher than the rest when it comes to being love or famous in the public eyes.....

That mission selection song is pointless....why? The first cell able to be no1 in picking the song...for surely will pick the AVENGER cell to be in their team therefore those in top 3 rank in ep 2 for surely will be picked first.  Like I say FEAR of elimination is a powerful tool....

And those triple voting reward give motivation to all this trainee  but like i say IT POINTLESS WHY? Because the JUDGE PASS......even if you being eliminated in each performance test...if the judge pick you..you will be safe ....so like i say the one who control this is the JUDGE...and the one who control the judge is??? 

Let just hope the judge pick this member base on skill and what member deserves only...and hoping that is not base on what mnet want.....hopefully...

And yes on each performance elimination round for surely they will change the top 3 rank...but plss look at the end of the show...see if the result in top 3 rank is  a 3 difference nation respectively or random any country can be in top 3 rank......because those 3 spot is important where those judge or mnet have the power to put anybody in those 3 spot. ...even if those top 3 are all Korean or Japanese or Chinese , they still need to pick 2 difference nations to be in their cell .....

 

Conclusion THE JUDGE AND THE CELL SYSTEM play important role....

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mnet will not make the same mistake as what they did with ioi, they will not choose the member who already in a establish group....and I can see that what mnet want is a high quality group that can be in this 3 concept....cute cheerful like twice, girl crush like black pink, and elegant majestic like izone. so the  member also need to be high quality skill....that why top 3 in top 9 is important, and they know those top 3 will choose their K/J/C cellmate wisely.

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13 minutes ago, Pyo Hyemi said:

where is the part 2? i can find only like,, 1h 40min ep

I think ep 2 only runs for 1hours 40 minute. What important is next week...after next week mission i guess we can already guess who going to be in planet girl 999 final line up. 

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1 hour ago, Drama Drama Drama said:

Mnet cut a lot of casting performs

Yup. That why we cannot see that Chinese girl who happen to be a Sm trainee that almost into aespa final lineup ,her name i think zhou xin yu. 

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Ok, I made up my mind!

I'm pick 9 trainees that i hope make it...even do i know half of them probably will not make it...due to mnet screen time..

For Korean trainee:

kim hyerim....she from limesoda....but this group disbanded ...I want her to get a second chance since she can sing

you da yeon...she from lipbuble?? but her group disband...i want her to get that second chance and yes she can sing

kim chae hyun....she sm trainee guy!!!...she almost become aespa member....i want her to get that second chance.

 

for chinese trainee:

su rui qi: because ....hello...to me, she is a must in the final line up 

shen xiao ting: because she a must!! the face of the group!!! must be in the final line up!!

zhou xin yu: she sm trainee also guy!!! she almost become aespa member...i want her to get second chance.

 

for japanese trainee:

ezaki: come on people!!!! she a must in the final line up team!!! 

sakamoto: she  jyp trainee!!!! she almost become itzy member, i want her to get that second chance!

yurina: cuz she pretty ...so....yeah.... 

 

For cell vote, I pick

ezaki hikaru team / kang ye seo team / shen xiao ting team. This team has the highest rate to past so...i don't want to be sad at the end of this project so...better not having a high hope because you know most of your pick probably will not make it...so better play safe and pick the team that have high potential to win. 

 

I CHANGE MY MIND ...I'm going to waste my vote on the cell team that not many people will choose...ezaki/kang ye seo/shen xiao ting team wont be affected if they're losing my vote since so many people will vote for them  BUT IF kim chae hyun/zhou xon yu/mashiro team gain my vote and maybe they have a chance to make it to the final line up with my vote....so...WHY NOT!?!?!?!?!

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My first thought was that the Fu Yaning(?) is not THAT mean, she enjoyed Yujin's performance. (She still wrong for dissing her imo)

They are giving the sister of the TXT's member the underdog treatment. Not much airtime but crucial time by the end of this episode. "She will make it from the ground to the top".

idk what they will do Yujin. I really want her to debut but I think they will be her the Gaeun edit, an ace but will be cut right at the end.

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9 hours ago, Quinn the Brain said:

My first thought was that the Fu Yaning(?) is not THAT mean, she enjoyed Yujin's performance. (She still wrong for dissing her imo)

They are giving the sister of the TXT's member the underdog treatment. Not much airtime but crucial time by the end of this episode. "She will make it from the ground to the top".

idk what they will do Yujin. I really want her to debut but I think they will be her the Gaeun edit, an ace but will be cut right at the end.

fu yaning....let just say what she sees as  `good or bad' definition is difference from the rest of people ......

The sister txt  member..... I think there will be some ep where mnet will make her the underdog heroes....but I feel like mnet will not make her into the final line up.

From the experience we have with produce series...I think yujin going to end up like gaeun....if you notice after ioi ,mnet will not take any group member to be in their final lineup...because it will be a paint in the ass to synchronize the member company schedule with mnet schedule. so we all know what going to happen with all those group member that debut in 2019 and still not disband...except for that buster member since her group situation almost in disband situation. 

Even do clc already disband, but we know that mnet is looking for someone who is still new in the K-pop ent industry. so to me mnet will treat yujin dirty just like how they did with gaeun. 

 

I'm not rooting for anybody within the korean trainee section because...many of them seem like they deserve to win it, but we all know what mnet going to do...

Therefore, I'm rooting for only this 4 member ,su rui qi,ezaki.shen xiao ting,sakamoto, the rest more like pity voting because they are ex group member, or they are ex big company trainee .

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Mnet can say to my face that they're gonna rig the whole thing and I'd still watch

I believe in the eyes of the producer more than the audience's vote, IZ*ONE is a fine example.

CLC girl, Kim Do Ah all got their chance but weren't able to gain popularity, I think we've seen enough of their "potential".

Kpop is all about the new face.

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41 minutes ago, EXOSUS said:

Mnet can say to my face that they're gonna rig the whole thing and I'd still watch

I believe in the eyes of the producer more than the audience's vote, IZ*ONE is a fine example.

CLC girl, Kim Do Ah all got their chance but weren't able to gain popularity, I think we've seen enough of their "potential".

Kpop is all about the new face.

IF this show rigged since the very beginning, they should not say audience vote matter , they can simply make it like kpop star 6, let the judge do all the work...but sadly if the judge control everything, evaluate base on skill/stage present/star quality/face and visual etc....then why ppl like hyewon pass the final line up?...even until the very end of izone career she still had that stiff face...no emotion ...all those training still can't fix her stage present...let see this show next ep ranking...from those ep result we can finally see if mnet really want to change or its just other rebranding tactics, and they still do the same shit with difference name show only. 

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I've said this before, but that scary judge from produce did what she was told to at times. She acted strict and all, but when certain contestants didn't do well she was like.. trust me, I have a gut feeling, just give her an A. So when they announced another survival show after getting caught for rigging, I BET they will make judges selection a priority this time.  And looks like its happening.  So not watching.

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13 hours ago, oden said:

IF this show rigged since the very beginning, they should not say audience vote matter , they can simply make it like kpop star 6, let the judge do all the work...but sadly if the judge control everything, evaluate base on skill/stage present/star quality/face and visual etc....then why ppl like hyewon pass the final line up?...even until the very end of izone career she still had that stiff face...no emotion ...all those training still can't fix her stage present...let see this show next ep ranking...from those ep result we can finally see if mnet really want to change or its just other rebranding tactics, and they still do the same shit with difference name show only. 

OMG they always compared Hyewon to Sohye when there was ZERO improvement with the Iz*one member.

Sohye proved everyone wrong.

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12 hours ago, Quinn the Brain said:

OMG they always compared Hyewon to Sohye when there was ZERO improvement with the Iz*one member.

Sohye proved everyone wrong.

Because sohee acting in the first place, she knows how to dance but act like she can't dance...and suddenly she is great at dancing...it's OK since this skill help her for not being the hole in the group...minjoo also not great at first, but she improves until the end of izone era...and we all can see the improvement...but hyewon??....her face still stiff even until today...nobody not even the trainer can fix that ....and you can't even notice her stage present... that the result when mnet interfering with the show....the judge for surely will pick the one who deserve only...while fan voting only pick the one they fall in love regardless those trainees deserve it or not. 

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18 hours ago, StanSatan said:

I've said this before, but that scary judge from produce did what she was told to at times. She acted strict and all, but when certain contestants didn't do well she was like.. trust me, I have a gut feeling, just give her an A. So when they announced another survival show after getting caught for rigging, I BET they will make judges selection a priority this time.  And looks like its happening.  So not watching.

Well if the judge are 100% control...best sure that the final lineup are top-notch, that for sure. mnet have a reputation that they want to uphold after izone...I'm ok with judge hold 100% in selection process, i just NOT OK IF MNET ARE THE ONE WHO PICK BASE ON BRIBE BY OTHER ENT COMPANY....as for the public audience vote...they already say those public audience hold only like?? 40%? 50%? Consideration when selecting the member ...when it comes to big money project, I doubt big company like mnet want to let audience decide their fate and money spend in this project ....LOL..so yeah keep on voting but expect less...or you end up crying...when the reality is not base on what you want. 

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12 hours ago, Quinn the Brain said:

These girls are so fierce! Top picks for sure, I gope they make it. I really do hope Yujin debuts, but something tells me she will not :C

i choose base on deserve talent and the safest pick...so i wont end up crying HAHAHAHAHA:troll:

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2 hours ago, oden said:

Well if the judge are 100% control...best sure that the final lineup are top-notch, that for sure. mnet have a reputation that they want to uphold after izone...I'm ok with judge hold 100% in selection process, i just NOT OK IF MNET ARE THE ONE WHO PICK BASE ON BRIBE BY OTHER ENT COMPANY....as for the public audience vote...they already say those public audience hold only like?? 40%? 50%? Consideration when selecting the member ...when it comes to big money project, I doubt big company like mnet want to let audience decide their fate and money spend in this project ....LOL..so yeah keep on voting but expect less...or you end up crying...when the reality is not base on what you want. 

What I meant was that,  the produce judge seemed to have been told to grade certain contestants a certain way, even if their performance was bad.  In other words,  mnet at it again. Thet didn't affect the final results or anything but it was just annoying to watch.  I doubt it would happen with the popular celebrity judges at gp though.

Also, I feel like the audience votes pick the more talented contestants anyway,  judging by the ones who were rigged out. And its said that mnet rigged in a talentless contestant like Kim Sohye into ioi (ioi being the least rigged group and only 1 member without talent), so are they really worried about top-notch? More like,  they know that whoever they pick will become famous so doesn't matter, just grab the company money.  

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1 hour ago, StanSatan said:

What I meant was that,  the produce judge seemed to have been told to grade certain contestants a certain way, even if their performance was bad.  In other words,  mnet at it again. Thet didn't affect the final results or anything but it was just annoying to watch.  I doubt it would happen with the popular celebrity judges at gp though.

Also, I feel like the audience votes pick the more talented contestants anyway,  judging by the ones who were rigged out. And its said that mnet rigged in a talentless contestant like Kim Sohye into ioi (ioi being the least rigged group and only 1 member without talent), so are they really worried about top-notch? More like,  they know that whoever they pick will become famous so doesn't matter, just grab the company money.  

Bout the judge grade certain trainee differently compare to other ....I didn't notice that...let's watch the first performance elimination test...and see if this is true ....about audience vote pick talented contestant....I disagree with that...we all know who they're going to pick .....I give you the hint...that little sister  from that group who happen to be from a biigggg company..... about kim sohye...I thought she's faking to seem like not great in dancing? and mnet knew about it???? If she not fakes it... I think mnet trust wholeheartedly with their dance and vocal teacher /trainer because you can see the result with minju...even when she is in final line up during produce 48..her skill freaking horrible.....but when we saw her for the first time debut as izone...she's looking great, not holding the other member down...same goes with sohye......except for hyewon...that girl.....even until the end her emotionless face still cannot be fix....i just check that most japanese trainee in this show not coming from a company...most of them a freelance trainee...so I doubt mnet gain any money from them....regardless there still a possibilities mnet can still control the judge...I'm going to see the first elimination test to see if there is any influence from mnet affecting the judge decision....for now..we can only speculate...since we don't have the evidence... 

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7 hours ago, oden said:

Bout the judge grade certain trainee differently compare to other ....I didn't notice that...let's watch the first performance elimination test...and see if this is true ....about audience vote pick talented contestant....I disagree with that...we all know who they're going to pick .....I give you the hint...that little sister  from that group who happen to be from a biigggg company..... about kim sohye...I thought she's faking to seem like not great in dancing? and mnet knew about it???? If she not fakes it... I think mnet trust wholeheartedly with their dance and vocal teacher /trainer because you can see the result with minju...even when she is in final line up during produce 48..her skill freaking horrible.....but when we saw her for the first time debut as izone...she's looking great, not holding the other member down...same goes with sohye......except for hyewon...that girl.....even until the end her emotionless face still cannot be fix....i just check that most japanese trainee in this show not coming from a company...most of them a freelance trainee...so I doubt mnet gain any money from them....regardless there still a possibilities mnet can still control the judge...I'm going to see the first elimination test to see if there is any influence from mnet affecting the judge decision....for now..we can only speculate...since we don't have the evidence... 

Mnet would pick his sister on their own as well if her popularity brings them the bucks

Sohye was not that great at dancing and there were waay more talented people in option. And she did hold them down a lot... compared to someone else in her place.

Minju is a visual too so I get it (don't think she was the one rigged). But if they were going to rig people out then why the top ones??(in terms of both talent and popularity). Why not rig hyewon out who has 0 skills? 

Mnet didn't rig any of the Japanese trainees in though, so I didn't get what you meant. As long as there was sakura and 1-2 other members,  they would make the Japan money.  And the audience actually picked nako who sings well.

I get what you mean though, the audience picks based on popularity. Some people come in with a big/loyal existing fanbase(nuest for example).  It's just that mnet does the rigging based on what company paid them and not because they are worried about making a top notch group?

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4 hours ago, StanSatan said:

Mnet would pick his sister on their own as well if her popularity brings them the bucks

Sohye was not that great at dancing and there were waay more talented people in option. And she did hold them down a lot... compared to someone else in her place.

Minju is a visual too so I get it (don't think she was the one rigged). But if they were going to rig people out then why the top ones??(in terms of both talent and popularity). Why not rig hyewon out who has 0 skills? 

Mnet didn't rig any of the Japanese trainees in though, so I didn't get what you meant. As long as there was sakura and 1-2 other members,  they would make the Japan money.  And the audience actually picked nako who sings well.

I get what you mean though, the audience picks based on popularity. Some people come in with a big/loyal existing fanbase(nuest for example).  It's just that mnet does the rigging based on what company paid them and not because they are worried about making a top notch group?

Even do HIS sister are not that bad which good since she will not pull down the group ...BUT she not that great either...so she will block other far more deserve trainee ...if mnet goal is money...logically they will add HER in the group...you kinda right on this.

Yes sohye is not that great compare to other deserve trainee during produce 101...i kinda mad about this as well...BUT after i see ioi debut and her in the team...she didn't pull the group down ..and she work hard to be far better than the time she in produce 101...so i kinda ok with this...same goes with minju...but hyewon.....her stage present just gone...she improves the dancing but her face expression...cannot be improved at all..even if mnet use the most credible vocal ,dance teacher and actinging teacher ...her stage present is nowhere to be seen ,the other member just over shine her , which i feel like kinda waste, her spot should be fill with some other trainee that way deserve then her....hitomi doing great during the show but after debut in izone i cant see her present..her stage present being overwhelmed by other member....sakura doing great as the face...nako is ok too....yes mnet dont need to rigged any japanese trainee because those japanese trainee came from the same company....if that company pay them to pick their best star to be in the group...mnet probably will just go for it...since you gain money...and that what bisnes is all about....any member will be fine, and it  happens to be nako since she really can sing...sakura is a must....and hitomi improve a lot during the show...some other korean member in izone also i feel like way to excessive .way to many to play the same role...its like too much abundance role being played with difference member... 

 

Regarding about mnet try to rig to create the best group ever...that just a theory...mnet maybe rigged just because...MONEY ...some company pay them...OR  maybe mnet learn their mistake and not rigged anymore because they already get caught, and the police are watching them right now so.....hopefully....BUT seeing almost all chinese trainee coming from a company ...while almost all japanese trainee are freelancing trainee....and see only 2 japanese trainee able to be in top 9 in ep 2 and 2 of them a trainee in a company... Give me anxiety, my heart keep telling me that this will be another rigged show.....so...the probability for this show rigged is still existing...but the reason its exist is unknown...are mnet rigged this show because some company pay them? Is it because they want to create a better group with better member that why they don't want to follow 100% or are they really follow 100% GP voting? Or is it 50% voting 50% judge decision???? Nobody knows... if they want money then why don't they just follow what GP want, right? Since popular member give more money..because gp will support those popular member...right? Are other ent company pay far more better? Is it because they have this mentality, they can make any trainee famous...no need to worry about gp vote and want?? Nobody knows...if they still get expose for doing the rigged ...I hope the govt pressure mnet to stop making a survival show base on gp voting that all...now most people can speculate only.... 

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OMG LOL those cells' system only work in first round elimination only, after that it's all about the GP voting.....so look like i have to vote for the best trainee regardless is she have a lot of people voting on her or not ...because there is no guarantee it will be 3 japanese, 3 chinese 3 korean equally...by the way 

Planet girl 999 ep 3 and 4 we will see Mnet eliminate 48 member..... but

if you look at this way 9x6 =54 and Mnet say the judge can save few members therefore

99 - 48 = 51  therefore 54- 51 = 3 so.........the judge will save 3 people only??? 1 japanese/korean/chinese???

After that ep 6 and 7 , it will be a total of 27 members or maybe 36 members??? ...

Then on ep 8 and 9 there will be only 18 members left??

On ep 9 the last ep,  we were finally able to see top 9 final rank.???

 

I hope they go with 4 korean ,3 japanese 2 chinese or maybe 5 korean 2 japanese 2 chinese even thou i want it 3 japanese 3 korean 3 chinese but I feel that just impossible when come to korean ent industry. 

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