JYPE gives another statement about ITZY Lia's bullying accusations + want a more thorough look into it

[Moon Jellyfish]

 

 

 

 

 

Tl;DR

- JYPE basically says that their defamation suit wasn't necessarily towards Accuser A specifically, but against claims that their legal team deemed malicious, including that A's, dating back to 2018. Legal action for all claims began in December 2020. 

- Investigation revealed 4 of the 5 posts JYPE claimed were malicious apparently came from the same person, using different nicknames online, the other from a different individual. 

- During the investigation, another claim was made back in February, claiming bullying accusations. Another posted claiming  to be an acquaintance also surfaced, stating they believed it was not a matter of school violence/bullying. The original OP also deleted their post.

- Legal action began, but as state previously, the cases were dropped by police since there was no evidence to suggest it was false or made with any ill intent. But JYPE also points out that police deemed that they could also not prove if it was necessarily true either. 

- Because of that, JYPE want to file another objection and wants a more thorough investigation into the matter, saying they believe no one should be treated unfairly, there shouldn't be any false or distorted facts.

 

 

 

[Moon Jellyfish]

JYPE essentially doubling down on their request to have this investigated is interesting to say the least. I figured they'd either lay low in hopes it would go away or they would arrange a meeting with A (which still could very well happen). Either they are confident that Lia's version of events is truthful or they really are trying hard to put up a front. If they receive the same outcome or if A has any more accusations, this could very well bite them back in the ass again. I guess we'll see if Police will even entertain their request to begin with

[Angel_Nessa]

honestly, it's hard to believe in somone who posts a serious accusation of school bullying using a nickname, especially if the person made various posts with different nicknames. 

School bullying accusations should only be taken serious if the person goes to the police department and fill a report of school bullying in person. If you want to accuse someone, don't hide behind a keyboard.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 15, 2021 by Angel_Nessa

[chamber]

It's just going to end up a he said she said. 

[STORM BLOOM]

Not looking good 

 

[Moon Jellyfish]

7 minutes ago, Angel_Nessa said:

honestly, it's hard to believe in somone who posts a serious accusation of school bullying using a nickname, especially if the person made various posts with different nicknames. 

School bullying accusations should only be taken serious if the person goes to the police department and fill a report of school bullying in person. If you want to accuse someone, don't hide behind a keyboard.

 

 

 

 

I mean I guess if they are sharing their experiences on various forums and social media pages, people can use different screennames for different accounts. But the statement doesn't  seem to say if they were made all on the same forum/page or specify if they believe that they used different names as a tactic to make it seemed like more people were involved/witness what happened?

5 minutes ago, chamber said:

It's just going to end up a he said she said. 

Tbh, aren't most of these accusations he said, she said situations, unless they have proof to back up their story or the person involved admits to it? But I get what you mean. Personally, I won't be surprised if they just have Lia meet with this person to hash it out and then put out a statement and be done. 

[Charlene]

What is that new trend of handling school bullying accusations really bad among Korean agencies? The statements sound aggressive, unclear and manipulative. Moreover correct me if I am wrong but JYP had issued a statement they were going to sue the accuser right after accusations, they didn't mention the accuser had been already reported to the police. Honestly at this point even if JYP manages to get police charges against the victim, I'll be thinking it will be due to their influence as a company.

They can backtrack all they want but it doesn't change the fact that the accuser was acquitted despite JYP being a large company with an influence

[fiti]

Just now, Charlene said:

What is that new trend of handling school bullying accusations really bad among Korean agencies? The statements sound aggressive, unclear and manipulative. Moreover correct me if I am wrong but JYP had issued a statement they were going to sue the accuser right after accusations, they didn't mention the accuser had been already reported to the police. Honestly at this point even if JYP manages to get police charges against the victim, I'll be thinking it will be due to their influence as a company.

They can backtrack all they want but it doesn't change the fact that the accuser was acquitted despite JYP being a large company with an influence

They posted this statement back in february after the bullying accusation:

In an official statement, the company stated, “This case is an ongoing investigation after we sued the writer last year for defamation and spreading of false information. We would like to inform you that we are still waiting for the results, according to the legal procedure.”

 

Regarding this latest statement, I actually dont' understand half of it? Maybe it's due to translation or my poor understanding of english idk. If someone could explain it to me better please.

The one who accused her of bullying is the same person who posted one of/all the 5 malicious posts back in 2018? Or is it someone else? What does that acquitance have to do with any of it?

And they sued for defamation regarding the bullying post or the past hate posts?

 

 

Edited June 15, 2021 by fiti

[Moon Jellyfish]

11 minutes ago, fiti said:

They posted this statement back in february after the bullying accusation:

In an official statement, the company stated, “This case is an ongoing investigation after we sued the writer last year for defamation and spreading of false information. We would like to inform you that we are still waiting for the results, according to the legal procedure.”

 

Regarding this latest statement, I actually dont' understand half of it? Maybe it's due to translation or my poor understanding of english idk. If someone could explain it to me better please.

The one who accused her of bullying is the same person who posted one of/all the 5 malicious posts back in 2018? Or is it someone else? What does that acquitance have to do with any of it?

And they sued for defamation regarding the bullying post or the past hate posts?

 

 

To my understanding, they do believe most of the previous posts and the post made back in February came from the same person. If the translation is correct, the accuser mentioned that they were being investigated by police. I believe the the acquaintance was jumping in to sort of defend Lia? From what I've seen people say, that person was a classmate of the two and pretty much refuted that what happened between Lia and her friends and that person and their friends wasn't bullying but 'fighting/arguing' and that the original post got deleted once that person jumped in. I could be wrong about that. 

Originally they were trying to sue for the other posts, but I imagine they wanted to also sue for the February post if they thought it was also made with malicious intent. At this point, they want to have this reinvestigated to determine if there was ill intent or probably to see how their stories line up compared to whatever Lia told them. 

[fiti]

Just now, Moon Jellyfish said:

To my understanding, they do believe most of the previous posts and the post made back in February came from the same person. If the translation is correct, the accuser mentioned that they were being investigated by police. I believe the the acquaintance was jumping in to sort of defend Lia? From what I've seen people say, that person was a classmate of the two and pretty much refuted that what happened between Lia and her friends and that person and their friends wasn't bullying but 'fighting/arguing' and that the original post got deleted once that person jumped in. I could be wrong about that. 

Originally they were trying to sue for the other posts, but I imagine they wanted to also sue for the February post if they thought it was also made with malicious intent. At this point, they want to have this reinvestigated to determine if there was ill intent or probably to see how their stories line up compared to whatever Lia told them. 

Thank you for explaining. It makes more sense like this. 

 

[Moon Jellyfish]

2 minutes ago, fiti said:

Thank you for explaining. It makes more sense like this. 

 

You're welcome. I was hoping I didn't make it sound even more complicated lol

[sawarin]

the fact that the first claim came in 2018 before itzy’s debut makes the situation difficult. i don’t follow lia or the group but based on few videos i’ve seen of her and her personality i didn’t see her capable of bullying until i read the details. since her friends are involved, she could’ve easily gone with the flow of their actions (since people inevitably change when they’re in a friend group, “if my friend said this, i can say it as well” mentality) and she has been accused of being in an iljin group, like soojin’s case. in the claim apparently there was no physical bullying, only the money and verbal assaults which makes it even more believable. 

[Moon Jellyfish]

2 hours ago, sawarin said:

the fact that the first claim came in 2018 before itzy’s debut makes the situation difficult. i don’t follow lia or the group but based on few videos i’ve seen of her and her personality i didn’t see her capable of bullying until i read the details. since her friends are involved, she could’ve easily gone with the flow of their actions (since people inevitably change when they’re in a friend group, “if my friend said this, i can say it as well” mentality) and she has been accused of being in an iljin group, like soojin’s case. in the claim apparently there was no physical bullying, only the money and verbal assaults which makes it even more believable. 

Tbh, I'm kinda curious about those older posts. Again, if I'm reading it correctly and the translation is accurate, it doesn't necessarily  say either way if those older posts talk about bullying or if they were just bad mouthing her. The statement just says they determined they were from the same person. However, it's obvious that this person has an issue with Lia, be because they had a beef or they felt victimized by her. 

 

Edit: man i need to work on my reading comprehension. In the first part, JYPE claims those previous comments did not mention school violence/bullying. But still, they didn't specify what was exactly said either. 

Edited June 15, 2021 by Moon Jellyfish

[sawarin]

2 hours ago, Moon Jellyfish said:

Tbh, I'm kinda curious about those older posts. Again, if I'm reading it correctly and the translation is accurate, it doesn't necessarily  say either way if those older posts talk about bullying or if they were just bad mouthing her. The statement just says they determined they were from the same person. However, it's obvious that this person has an issue with Lia, be because they had a beef or they felt victimized by her. 

 

Edit: man i need to work on my reading comprehension. In the first part, JYPE claims those previous comments did not mention school violence/bullying. But still, they didn't specify what was exactly said either. 

someone said the title of the first post in 2018 was “i was bullied by a big 3 trainee” back then people thought it was ryujin because of mixnine. 

[Moon Jellyfish]

10 minutes ago, sawarin said:

someone said the title of the first post in 2018 was “i was bullied by a big 3 trainee” back then people thought it was ryujin because of mixnine. 

Oh really? I briefly remember rumors going around back then and Ryujin's name also being thrown in. But in all honesty, I haven't personally seen any of these posts against Lia myself, other than the bits and pieces people have mentioned about the February ones. Therefore, I don't know how or if people were  able to determine which comments JYPE had wanted investigated . They seem to be taking the stance though that the comments made before 2018 didn't indicate bullying, but again I didn't get to see them either way.

 

Still, it's obvious that there are issues between this person (or people) and Lia. Whether or not we'll ever know the truth or if it get some type of closure remains to be seen. 

[MinnieMax]

I doubt that any new facts would be find for the new hearing. But well, let's see