[NB] Jungkook reveals he didn't eat for 5 days while shooting 'Butter'

[RIPHaldir]

9 hours ago, marin karin said:

if anything, this is one of the few things they should probably just keep to themselves. unless they are outright condemning and reflecting on it because they realize it was not good. stuff like this promotes eating disorders. not only to fans but to other idols. as influential as he is, he must be careful about it.

All that just to brag about Shinee huh? 

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/shinee-taemin-diet-lose-weight/

A simple google search will pull up several instances of Minho talking about dieting, he isnt promoting it (neither was Jungkook) but he is talking about how its a sacrifice he will make to look good for fans, so there goes your high horse you want to ride so badly honey

[camilocorream]

7 minutes ago, RIPHaldir said:

All that just to brag about Shinee huh? 

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/shinee-taemin-diet-lose-weight/

A simple google search will pull up several instances of Minho talking about dieting, he isnt promoting it (neither was Jungkook) but he is talking about how its a sacrifice he will make to look good for fans, so there goes your high horse you want to ride so badly honey

Please nobody saying he did i with ill intentions, most of us are just agreeing that topics like that shouldnt be talked to an immature audience who wants to copy everything the idols do. He does need to be more carefull people see him and follow him, not necessarily cause he promoted it directly you know. And this was pretty disturbing, this is no normal diet.

[satoori]

1 hour ago, rananicolee said:

I feel so bad for them. Even TOP suffers from it. He was overweight growing up and in order to join YG he had to lose the weight. Now he gets really  skinny possibly due to body dysmorphia. 

I wish someone was there for them all and tell them they don't need to lose weight. 

sadly i feel even with people telling them it's hard to change something so deeply rooted.

57 minutes ago, Dont mind me said:

Okay this is just fucked up. How do the parents not get sad hearing this from their kids.

When I was growing up I did ballet, we had to train for hours and hours and be on diet. But my body is different and I was taller than most of them, so I looked really skinny. My parents looked at the diet the teachers gave us and went off on them. Even when I was training in the middle of night in the hallways, my parents checked in if I wasn't overdoing it and made me go to bed. Even now after 15 years if they hear me talking about my training days, my mom gets cold shivers. How do these parent allow their kids to go through this? That is really were the responsibility lies. Companies will always take advantage of young impressionable children, but their parents should be the ones making sure that their kids are healthy and safe. 

idols  don't see their parents as often as the average person. many of them rarely visit due to living across the country in a different city. if i remember correctly bts once mentioned they visit their parents like 3-4 times a year. if not less. back before covid if they were not preparing for a album they were on a long tour.

 

 

[hynapia]

This is really sad. There's literally no need for idols to starve themselves to "look pretty" for a MV or whatever. Health always comes first.

Some comments here are so disgusting and insensitive tho.

Edited May 26, 2021 by hynapia

[Dont mind me]

20 minutes ago, satoori said:

sadly i feel even with people telling them it's hard to change something so deeply rooted.

idols  don't see their parents as often as the average person. many of them rarely visit due to living across the country in a different city. if i remember correctly bts once mentioned they visit their parents like 3-4 times a year. if not less. back before covid if they were not preparing for a album they were on a long tour.

 

 

This I understand, same goes for ballet schools. There are students from all over the world, however they atleast go home for min of 2 week per quarter. And the parents have access to the kids anytime they want. What I am getting from the old bts or idols debut periods is that parents gave to much power to the companies and that is not good. 

[satoori]

6 minutes ago, Dont mind me said:

This I understand, same goes for ballet schools. There are students from all over the world, however they atleast go home for min of 2 week per quarter. And the parents have access to the kids anytime they want. What I am getting from the old bts or idols debut periods is that parents gave to much power to the companies and that is not good. 

yep parents put a lot of trust in these companies. many idols literally move across the country to live with these companies in dorms.

(side note: of course some idols don't come from good homes, so maybe moving away is a bit of freedom.)

edit: also asian culture is different then western. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by satoori

[Dont mind me]

3 hours ago, satoori said:

yep parents put a lot of trust in these companies. many idols literally move across the country to live with these companies in dorms.

(side note: of course some idols don't come from good homes, so maybe moving away is a bit of freedom.)

edit: also asian culture is different then western. 

I am not from a western family and yes even my culture sends kids away for a better future and most times it didn't work out. I guess it depends on how much trust you put in other people looking after your kid.

But its kinda different with idols openly saying things like this and young impressionable people hearing it. It looks like the idol world is brainwashed into thinking this is normal. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by Dont mind me

[gam3 bo1]

this is unsettling and he probably shouldn't have shared it but the lack of empathy some people in this thread have towards him feeling the need to starve himself to 'look his best' even though he already is lean and fine is odd. you're hearing about someone do all this and you don't feel at least a little bit worried for him? 

[deliriousness]

14 hours ago, satoori said:

Of course I don't work for Bighit, but I also don't think the company forces him. I've said since the beginning the blame is mostly due to the industry overall. There's a lot pressure to be perfect. Whether that's from direct or indirect forces. 

If it's not about BTS being #1, then I don't see the point of even mentioning their fame tbh. People constantly bringing it up their popularity is becoming overplayed at this point, lets be real. BTS are just as vulnerable and victims to this dark industry like any other celebrity. Being popular don't make BTS super humans or something...

It's one thing being against  bad diets, it's another thing entirely claiming certain idols are "promoting starvation".  In most threads I've seen about idols bad diets on OH it's rare to see some of things being said with in the comments here. Idols talking about their diets or having slip up is not necessarily "promoting". And it's really weird that some of y'all continue to use that word. Ok, great for Shinee they've never spoken up about certain things. And??? ok... Of course,  do remember we don't know what struggles happens behind scenes and we don't know why certain idols are able to talk about things while others don't.

You talk around the heart of my feelings. It’s like I found you during a game of hide-n-seek, and then you immediately tap me back and say “tag, you’re it”

You seem to be an “intent over impact” type of person. Where as long as the intentions were not malicious, there’s nothing to criticize. 

I am on the impact side: idols should not talk about starvation so nonchalantly like this, because it can influence others. And I know it’s not his fault he has body issues, but you can struggle with body image issues and still try to protect others from internalizing the same issues. From what I’ve seen in this thread, I’m not even sure he realizes he may have severe body image issues, which is why it’s good to talk about it. Though I will agree with one of the users that the responses could be more compassionate. 

His popularity does matter, he’s an idol, he’s (by default) an influencer, him being a  member makes it more important to address it because he reaches more people (impact). That’s why ppl bring up his fame, it points out the importance. And I agree with that, what I was trying to say was that it would still matter even if he were an A.C.E. member, or a VAV member. 

It’s promotion. He doesn’t have to outright tell people to do it for it to be promotion. That’s why when he wears certain clothing pieces, people buy them, regardless of whether it was sponsored clothing or not. Impact over intent. 

[satoori]

11 hours ago, Dont mind me said:

I am not from a western family and yes even my culture sends kids away for a better future and most times it didn't work out. I guess it depends on how much trust you put in other people looking after your kid.

But its kinda different with idols openly saying things like this and young impressionable people hearing it. It looks like the idol world is brainwashed into thinking this is normal. 

At the end of the day, young impressionable fans hear and see a lot in this world. It's their parents jobs to guide them and hopeful raise them to know right from wrong. Not every young impressionable person is going to jump off a cliff just because someone else (or celeb) does it.  I for one didn't.

Bts and kpop idols in general already control (and hide) so much of their life, more then most Western celebs. Kpop idols are far from being the worse. Overall not problematic. Yet some fans/non-fans still drag them so hard for the bare minimum that they do... ><

5 hours ago, marin karin said:

You talk around the heart of my feelings. It’s like I found you during a game of hide-n-seek, and then you immediately tap me back and say “tag, you’re it”

You seem to be an “intent over impact” type of person. Where as long as the intentions were not malicious, there’s nothing to criticize. 

I am on the impact side: idols should not talk about starvation so nonchalantly like this, because it can influence others. And I know it’s not his fault he has body issues, but you can struggle with body image issues and still try to protect others from internalizing the same issues. From what I’ve seen in this thread, I’m not even sure he realizes he may have severe body image issues, which is why it’s good to talk about it. Though I will agree with one of the users that the responses could be more compassionate. 

His popularity does matter, he’s an idol, he’s (by default) an influencer, him being a  member makes it more important to address it because he reaches more people (impact). That’s why ppl bring up his fame, it points out the importance. And I agree with that, what I was trying to say was that it would still matter even if he were an A.C.E. member, or a VAV member. 

It’s promotion. He doesn’t have to outright tell people to do it for it to be promotion. That’s why when he wears certain clothing pieces, people buy them, regardless of whether it was sponsored clothing or not. Impact over intent. 

I'll just keep this short for all of our time.... i disagree with a lot of this. ^^

 

13 hours ago, hynapia said:

This is really sad. There's literally no need for idols to starve themselves to "look pretty" for a MV or whatever. Health always comes first.

Some comments here are so disgusting and insensitive tho.

 

9 hours ago, haseul said:

this is unsettling and he probably shouldn't have shared it but the lack of empathy some people in this thread have towards him feeling the need to starve himself to 'look his best' even though he already is lean and fine is odd. you're hearing about someone do all this and you don't feel at least a little bit worried for him? 

@hynapia and @haseul sort my exact thoughts. Again, I was lowkey surprise to see some of the comments and reactions in this thread. Tbh I actually wasn't planning to even comment on this thread. But then I started reading it. yikes

(side note: I say lowkey because it's Bts. Out of all the platforms I've been on, nothing compare to the underline dislike for Bts on OH. So it's also sort of expected. Some people seem to see petty fanwars first before seeing an actual human sometimes with Bts... but we're not ready to have that conversation yet.)

 

Edited May 26, 2021 by satoori

[hynapia]

5 minutes ago, satoori said:

At the end of the day, young impressionable fans hear and see a lot in this world. It's their parents jobs to guide them and hopeful raise them to know right from wrong. Not every young impressionable person is going to jump off a cliff just because someone else (or celeb) does it.  I for one didn't.

Bts and kpop idols in general already control (and hide) so much of their life, more then most Western celebs. Kpop idols are far from being the worse. Overall not problematic. Yet some fans/non-fans still drag them so hard for the bare minimum that they do... ><

I'll just keep this short for all of our time.... i disagree with a lot of this. ^^

 

 

@hynapia and @haseul sort my exact thoughts. Again, I was lowkey surprise to see some of the comments and reactions in this thread. Tbh I actually wasn't planning to even comment on this thread. But then I started reading it. yikes

(side note: I say lowkey because it's Bts. Out of all the platforms I've been on, nothing compare to the underline dislike for Bts on OH. So it's also sort of expected. Some people seem to see petty fanwars first before seeing an actual human sometimes with Bts... but we're not ready to have that conversation yet.)

 

Yep. There's a lot of antis in stan twitter too but at least you don't have to see them in your tl if you (obviously) don't follow them and don't engage in their shit.

Here there's quite a few users that are always absolutely bitter and passive aggresive towards them. I'm pretty sure if it was other idol saying the same they would've worried more about their health than "the message they're giving to the young impressionable fans".

[hynapia]

9 hours ago, haseul said:

this is unsettling and he probably shouldn't have shared it but the lack of empathy some people in this thread have towards him feeling the need to starve himself to 'look his best' even though he already is lean and fine is odd. you're hearing about someone do all this and you don't feel at least a little bit worried for him? 

Exactly this. People are more worried about "the message he's giving to his young impressionable fans" than about his actual health.

[rananicolee]

19 minutes ago, satoori said:

 

(side note: I say lowkey because it's Bts. Out of all the platforms I've been on, nothing compare to the underline dislike for Bts on OH. So it's also sort of expected. Some people seem to see petty fanwars first before seeing an actual human sometimes with Bts... but we're not ready to have that conversation yet.)

 

Yep. This has happened so many times with my faves. For example, a SuJu member could do something and it'd be talked about for ages but let another idol do the same thing and then excuses or babying the idol. I've gotten used to it. 

 

edit: only said suju because I couldn't think of any other groups I like....lmao one brain cell is working

Edited May 26, 2021 by rananicolee

[satoori]

51 minutes ago, hynapia said:

Yep. There's a lot of antis in stan twitter too but at least you don't have to see them in your tl if you (obviously) don't follow them and don't engage in their shit.

Here there's quite a few users that are always absolutely bitter and passive aggresive towards them. I'm pretty sure if it was other idol saying the same they would've worried more about their health than "the message they're giving to the young impressionable fans".

True.  Plus there's so many Armys on twitter, the like to dislike ratio is a lot more balanced lol lbr

41 minutes ago, rananicolee said:

Yep. This has happened so many times with my faves. For example, a SuJu member could do something and it'd be talked about for ages but let another idol do the same thing and then excuses or babying the idol. I've gotten used to it. 

 

edit: only said suju because I couldn't think of any other groups I like....lmao one brain cell is working

Yep. Tho Suju have a lot of haters due to some of the problematic stuff they've done over the years. BTS overall not are as problematic, therefore most of the hate they receive is due to pettiness relating to fanwars. Otherwise people are scarping the barrel trying to find a reason to say something negative about them on OH. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by satoori

[rananicolee]

2 minutes ago, satoori said:

True.  Plus there's so many Armys on twitter, the like to dislike ratio is a lot more balanced lol lbr

Yep. Tho Suju have a lot of haters due to some of the problematic stuff they've done over the years. BTS overall not are as problematic, therefore most of the hate they receive is due to pettiness relating to fanwars. Otherwise people are scarping the barrel trying to find a reason to say something negative about them on OH. 

Yeah but you know what I mean. They even do the same with BP. 

[satoori]

2 minutes ago, rananicolee said:

Yeah but you know what I mean. They even do the same with BP. 

I guess lucky for BP they're not as active as a group and as popular.

 

#the_struggles_of_being_a_"#1 group"

Edited May 26, 2021 by satoori

[rananicolee]

Just now, satoori said:

I guess lucky or BP they're not as active as a group and as popular.

I really only used SuJu because I forgot who my other faves were....

[satoori]

1 minute ago, rananicolee said:

I really only used SuJu because I forgot who my other faves were....

yea i get it xD

 

[Dont mind me]

For the record, I absolutely find it so so sad he sees himself this way. He is a good looking kind sweet guy. Although probably still needs to grow emotionally as he didn't get that chance within BTS. But I was more commenting on their debut videos and how their parents don't see the warning signs.  

Edited May 26, 2021 by Dont mind me

[Guest]

12 hours ago, haseul said:

this is unsettling and he probably shouldn't have shared it but the lack of empathy some people in this thread have towards him feeling the need to starve himself to 'look his best' even though he already is lean and fine is odd. you're hearing about someone do all this and you don't feel at least a little bit worried for him? 

exactly. Some people are clearly being insensitive on purpose.

Especially considering the pressure put on people in South Korea to look visually perfect, and i mean on everyone not just celebrity. You can literally see plastic surgery ads everywhere there. We also have to consider this side of the Korean culture when talking about this kind of topic. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by IAmNochu

[Saijyu]

So Im hearing that this might be a translation error and that he ment it like he only drank water like he had no sugary drinks like soda or juice, which means he still ate. I wish I had concrete proof but seeing how translation errors have gotten groups in trouble in the past, I wouldn't doubt gossip sites to spread misinformation like this. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by Saijyu

[rananicolee]

3 minutes ago, Saijyu said:

So Im hearing that this might be a translation error and that he ment it like he only drank water like he had no sugary drinks like soda or juice, which means he still ate. I wish I had concrete proof but seeing how translation errors have gotten groups in trouble in the past, I wouldn't doubt gossip sites to spread misinformation like this. 

If this is indeed a mistranslation error, can we stop trying to post NB stuff here? People have given so many examples on why we shouldn't share her stuff. I'm guilty of posting some of her stuff too but I'm back off. 

[Saijyu]

8 minutes ago, rananicolee said:

If this is indeed a mistranslation error, can we stop trying to post NB stuff here? People have given so many examples on why we shouldn't share her stuff. I'm guilty of posting some of her stuff too but I'm back off. 

I've learned NEVER to trust gossip sites. Theyre ALL in it for the clicks. As you said NB has a lot of problems! Another gossip site that Ive seen spread this "information" is allkpop. Who remembers the Aliee situation that happened with them? 

[rananicolee]

4 minutes ago, Saijyu said:

I've learned NEVER to trust gossip sites. Theyre ALL in it for the clicks. As you said NB has a lot of problems! Another gossip site that Ive seen spread this "information" is allkpop. Who remembers the Aliee situation that happened with them? 

That's the reason I never EVER trust them. One of my friends used them as a source and they got upset when I told them they were unreliable. 

[Stepkdramafan226]

Can we get an accurate translation for this cos NB is a mess. 

Also there are some very insensitive comments here. Its not even coming from a place of care or even worry. It's just another excuse to take a cheap jab yet again.

Not surprised as it's the same peeps who look for any excuse to villanize BTS while saying they have moved on from staning BTS. Okay then. 

Edited May 26, 2021 by Stepkdramafan226