sm can be evil but at least they arent discriminatory to foreign group members

[sukui_]

ususally the oldest member of kpop groups are chosen as leader, yet the oldest members of mirae and hot issue werent chosen as leader..but with fx wher victoria is the edlest sm chose her as leader despte her bieng foreign cuz sm is not discrim

[himi]

so explain what happened to exo chinese members 

[KentasGlittery EyeMakeup]

Every company is discriminatory towards foreign group members because the laws are discriminatory towards them so the companies can underpay them

[starsocks]

lmao nct's line distribution says hello

[pinkpanda_spirit]

Chenle should have a solo

[Eremit]

50 minutes ago, himi said:

so explain what happened to exo chinese members 

for real I see that argument so often and I'm like ??? did people just forget about three members of the biggest boygroup at the time fighting tooth and nail to escape SM's clutches?

also not every K-Pop group has the oldest as leader. Leader means being the in-between of company and group, if you have a foreign member who's not used to Korea that much it makes ZERO sense to make them the leader. Like for example in Got7 with Mark vs JB. Also there's a lot of groups where the oldest isn't necessarily the leader, even if they're Korean and it's whoever they thought would do it best - Twice Jihyo, BTS RM, TXT Soobin, I-dle Soyeon.

Edited May 25, 2021 by Eremit

[felidae]

How much SM paid you to say the lie? 

 

You can't use f(x) as example; the leader was 22, the oldest korean was 16. You want 16 yo Luna to be leader when a fully grown adult exist??

Whoever gave me skull reaction can fuck off for disliking a fact.

Edited May 25, 2021 by felidae

[Guest]

1 hour ago, KentasGlittery EyeMakeup said:

Every company is discriminatory towards foreign group members because the laws are discriminatory towards them so the companies can underpay them

Didnt sorn and other idols manage to change this law though?

[lighterxx]

Yeah I think SM is pretty discriminatory, I also think that s why so many NCT Chinese members are close friends with svt members, they take advice from them to my knowledge. If you literally have to go far smaller company's other idols for advice, I can only imagine SM sucks with them 

[Corysilk]

1 hour ago, felidae said:

How much SM paid you to say the lie? 

 

You can't use f(x) as example; the leader was 22, the oldest korean was 16. You want 16 yo Luna to be leader when a fully grown adult exist??

Isn't there a boygroup where the minor was the leader?  I don't know if he was a minor but I know he was the youngest...

[Drama Drama Drama]

27 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

Yeah I think SM is pretty discriminatory, I also think that s why so many NCT Chinese members are close friends with svt members, they take advice from them to my knowledge. If you literally have to go far smaller company's other idols for advice, I can only imagine SM sucks with them 

I think Jun is so well respected into the current chinese kpop idols entourage

[lighterxx]

17 minutes ago, Drama Drama Drama said:

I think Jun is so well respected into the current chinese kpop idols entourage

Yeah, he is quite popular, he lived on Korea for a long time so he is good at giving advice, he taught Minghao ton of stuff too. He also knows like every good Chinese restaurant in Seoul lol 

[felidae]

22 minutes ago, Corysilk said:

Isn't there a boygroup where the minor was the leader?  I don't know if he was a minor but I know he was the youngest...

I've heard of the situation although I don't know the group.

[satoori]

57 minutes ago, Corysilk said:

Isn't there a boygroup where the minor was the leader?  I don't know if he was a minor but I know he was the youngest...

yea there's probably a case like this

 

not the youngest but second youngest is the leader of enhypen.

 

OT: i prefer when groups/companies pick members that have leadership qualities rather then just going with the oldest. being the oldest doesn't always mean you're fit to be a leader of a group.

[lighterxx]

4 minutes ago, satoori said:

yea there's probably a case like this

 

not the youngest but second youngest is the leader of enhypen.

 

OT: i prefer when groups/companies pick members that have leadership qualities rather then just going with the oldest. being the oldest doesn't always mean you're fit to be a leader of a group.

I agree, like Cheol is an amazing leader but its draining for him, probably jeonghan or woozi or even seungkwan would be a more comfortable leader but cheol was oldest. giving them as an example tbh

Edited May 25, 2021 by lighterxx

[pinkpanda_spirit]

1 hour ago, Corysilk said:

Isn't there a boygroup where the minor was the leader?  I don't know if he was a minor but I know he was the youngest...

I think it was the gg playback

[satoori]

1 hour ago, lighterxx said:

I agree, like Cheol is an amazing leader but its draining for him, probably jeonghan or woozi or even seungkwan would be a more comfortable leader but cheol was oldest. giving them as an example tbh

good point

[hynapia]

7 hours ago, felidae said:

How much SM paid you to say the lie? 

 

You can't use f(x) as example; the leader was 22, the oldest korean was 16. You want 16 yo Luna to be leader when a fully grown adult exist??

Actually, Jungwon was named leader of Enhypen at only 16 and he just turned 17 a couple months ago (current younger leader in kpop I think), but the oldest in the group is 19 so it's not like there's that much difference either I guess lol.

[hynapia]

6 hours ago, Corysilk said:

Isn't there a boygroup where the minor was the leader?  I don't know if he was a minor but I know he was the youngest...

The only case I know where the leader is the youngest is Winner but I'm not sure how old he was when Winner debuted.

But Enhypen has the second youngest as the leader and he just turned 17 a couple months ago.

[hynapia]

Mirae isn't a good example of "treating foreign members bad" because the japanese member is literally the main vocal and he gets the most lines. Not being the leader doesn't mean he's getting a bad treatment because like people have said the oldest is not always the leader.

[CandyCane23049]

11 hours ago, Eremit said:

for real I see that argument so often and I'm like ??? did people just forget about three members of the biggest boygroup at the time fighting tooth and nail to escape SM's clutches?

also not every K-Pop group has the oldest as leader. Leader means being the in-between of company and group, if you have a foreign member who's not used to Korea that much it makes ZERO sense to make them the leader. Like for example in Got7 with Mark vs JB. Also there's a lot of groups where the oldest isn't necessarily the leader, even if they're Korean and it's whoever they thought would do it best - Twice Jihyo, BTS RM, TXT Soobin, I-dle Soyeon.

Yup. Mark didn’t want to be leader either, but when JB needed a break or was sick or something he stepped up when needed to. 

[seokii]

"Sm can be evil but at least they aren't discriminatory to foreign group members"

SM: *has faced multiple highly publicized lawsuits regarding their discrimination to foreign group members*

[rananicolee]

So like Han Geng's lawsuit doesn't exist? 

 

[Oli London]

[sukui_]

On 5/25/2021 at 1:59 AM, himi said:

so explain what happened to exo chinese members 

thats my fault and my fear  and they were my fave members