Korean celebrities who are banned from promoting in Japan

[Hizu]

Japan was worse than Germany in WW2, the only reason we don't see Imperial Japan in the same light as Nazi Germany is because while Germany was (rightfully) vilified, America bent history with Japan and pardoned it and portrayed it in a favourable light to the western world (the US having overwhelming power over media and subsequently our perception of reality) because it was needed as an ally against the Soviet Union. That's it.
The countries that were victims of Imperial Japan obviously never forgot. Especially when Japan is still struggling to acknowledge its war crimes.

Imagine Germany sweeping its war crimes under the rug and not acknowledging the Holocaust and that Nazism was problematic, with the help of a superpower. Now imagine going to Germany and saying "F*ck Nazis!" while tearing a nazi flag and it being considered controversial to the point of being banned from the country. Yes, a concert wasn't the best place to tackle the issue, but the sentiment is valid.

[Hizu]

9 hours ago, Drama Drama Drama said:

Who clowned you?

A jboo?

Probably.

[Hizu]

7 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

I won't deny that we let the Japanese off easy, or that they haven't reflected on this dark time in their history to the same degree the Germans have, but your statement that "Japan was worse than Germany" is statistically inaccurate. The Nazis killed more people, and were as nonchalantly brutal about it as anyone can be. 

I strongly disagree. Japanese Army in WW2 reached a level of cruelty and brutality that left even German SS behind. The atrocities, massacres, human experimentations they committed, and the overall lack of humanity and empathy they had for everyone were even more shocking than Nazi Germany's. While Germans were efficient in their mass murder, the Japanese were just straight up sadistic.

[Hizu]

1 minute ago, Jikrytae said:

You can disagree all you want, your argument is still factually inaccurate. Suggesting that the Nazi, unlike the Japanese, were somehow not "straight up sadistic" is also incredibly questionable morally. 

I might concede that they were worse than Nazi Germans in my opinion because I'm more influenced by the way the massacres took place rather than the mere numbers of the victims (considering they're both in the millions) and you might put more importance on the latter , but "factually inaccurate"? No. The Nazi were sadistic, but just not as much as the Japanese. Who was worse might be subjective. The Japanese were brutal and barbaric, basically butchers who made torture and genocide a sport, and the Germans basically industrialised genocide, turned people into numbers with the ultimate goal to just kill them all in the most efficient way. Both were awful, it's up to you to decide which one is worse, but I'm gonna stick with the Japanese, because no matter how terrifying and cold-hearted Nazi Germany's efficiency in genocide was, the cruelty the Japanese treated those they thought subhuman with is something I can't even read about without wanting to unsee it.

[Hizu]

11 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

While I can understand being more influenced by Japan's atrocities if you're Asian, it's not really about putting one above the other in importance, it's simple numbers as far as I'm concerned. Yes, I consider a higher body count to be worse, considering there was nothing more pleasant about the way they went about it. It's true that the Japanese tortured people basically for fun, but so did the Nazis. Are you familiar with Josef Mengele? He wasn't very... efficient. 

I'm European, but I still disagree. I consider the level of cruelty worse than the body count. And yes, I am familiar with Mengele.

[Hizu]

2 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

We shouldn't minimize human suffering, but I always consider loss of life to be the biggest tragedy. If you kill enough people, they all tend to become statistics, but we can't lose sight of the fact that those were all actual lives being snuffed out. If you industrialize mass murder, it's still mass murder. That's why I hate when people use terms like "efficient" to describe what they did. If they had spoken English, that's exactly what the Nazis themselves would have called it. 

I guess we really have different minds, because I disagree on that too. If person A shoots 5 people in the head and person B extensively tortures and kills one, person B is the worse person for me. 
And also that's exactly what makes WW2 Germans horrifying. They made mass murder efficient, you might not like the word but that's exactly what it was and what made Nazi Germany stand out until now. Like machines going through numbers.

[Hizu]

5 minutes ago, jeong jaehyuns boyfriend said:

imo, I think this whole conversation of "who was worse" is irrelevant here. Both are unequivocally horrible and we don't need to get down to body counts to acknowledge that, and there's also no benefit here for anyone by arguing about which one was "worse" than the other.

The atrocities committed by the Japanese in WW2 was absolutely unforgivable and the apology is only for the victims to accept. However, we shouldn't blame all Japanese people that exist today (the vast majority of them innocent) for crimes that they had nothing to do with. Healing for the victims also means reaching out to the other side and accepting the fact that we shouldn't continually villify them for wrongs they did not commit. Otherwise the resentment will live on forever. And perhaps for some people, especially victims, that is just. But I think as we move forward, we should build bridges, not walls.

p.s. I'm Chinese

Agreed.