[DailyNaver] TVXQ's Yunho found to have escaped from police after he was caught with a woman at an illegal room salon (Top comment 10k)

[Thigh-high feminist]

1 minute ago, sergel said:

 

2021 keeps on giving =/

Okay but this is a truly quotable phrase. I’m gonna use it

Have at it, I stole it from my grand aunt.

[jeong jaehyuns boyfriend]

6 hours ago, rananicolee said:

i wish kpop fans would stop saying something is cover for their idol. why would something bad be a cover for something with the government? your fave won't be able to show their face if that was the case. 

this. people think that their favs are so important, they can be used as smokescreens to cover for the government lol

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

7 hours ago, kinagyo said:

what about Junsu? I don't remember his scandals

iirc Junsu got into some heat because his family didnt pay the workers of a resort(?) he owned. 

[pinkpanda_spirit]

:ooooooo

[Bhadie]

 

[lighterxx]

26 minutes ago, Bhadie said:

 

It's especially ironic considering Itaewon members did not go out during quarantine time and there was only recorded 1 person that day rip

[azure]

Yunho hangs out with goons!?

[Guest]

I think it has already been said but I am mostly surprised that he isn't gay. In the end we really don't know those people.  

Other than that I am not really surprised that he pays for sex. I am pretty sure the majority of the male idols are either visiting room salons or they just have sugar babies, because let's be honest if you are famous and don't want to be in a relationship just want to flirt and hook up with people it's more convinient to do it with sex workers. I would consider it problematic, if it turns out he was systematically raping sex workes like Yoochun.  So until the sex workers themselves say something bad about him then I don't really care as much. 

However the timing is definitely funny. Changmin is married, lately there were more people praising Yunho for his clean image and the cherry on top he is(was?) about to become an MC on a hyped reality show. So ha! Almost twenty years of squeaky clean image is going down the drain at the most unconvienient time. If anything his clean image is going to be the reason why he is getting dragged through the mud. People had high expectations of him so they are going to be more  disappointed. It would be interesting to watch how is this going to play out for him. 

[starsocks]

21 hours ago, rananicolee said:

i wish kpop fans would stop saying something is cover for their idol. why would something bad be a cover for something with the government? your fave won't be able to show their face if that was the case. 

15 hours ago, jeong jaehyuns boyfriend said:

this. people think that their favs are so important, they can be used as smokescreens to cover for the government lol

I'm not saying it's the case here, but "news burying" is a legit thing in sk because of how the search rankings work

it sounds nonsense but they do use celeb gossip

Edited March 13, 2021 by choiyujins
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[rananicolee]

1 minute ago, choiyujins said:

I'm not saying it's the case here, but "news burying" is a legit thing in sk because of how the search rankings work

it sounds nonsense but they do use celeb gossip

They do but it wouldn't be with something like this tbh. But, honestly, from checking various news sites in Korea that aren't entertainment news, the news of politicians are higher. 

[starsocks]

2 minutes ago, rananicolee said:

They do but it wouldn't be with something like this tbh. But, honestly, from checking various news sites in Korea that aren't entertainment news, the news of politicians are higher. 

yeah I agree

and in general it's a pretty big cop out to cry gOVErNMeNT ScAnDaL every single time your fave is in the news

[rananicolee]

Just now, choiyujins said:

yeah I agree

and in general it's a pretty big cop out to cry gOVErNMeNT ScAnDaL every single time your fave is in the news

That's what I'm trying to say. This case in particular is huge because of his nice guy reputation and the fact he's a legend in Korea. News burying yes. But to cover up something in the government? Nope. If that was the case, we wouldn't know about those specific stories. 

I think international fans like to run with that because they often don't look at the news in Korea. I might need to start posting news that I see on Korea Herald skdlfaj 

[starsocks]

1 minute ago, rananicolee said:

That's what I'm trying to say. This case in particular is huge because of his nice guy reputation and the fact he's a legend in Korea. News burying yes. But to cover up something in the government? Nope. If that was the case, we wouldn't know about those specific stories. 

I think international fans like to run with that because they often don't look at the news in Korea. I might need to start posting news that I see on Korea Herald skdlfaj 

lol exactly

it's not that deep

[schue]

When I first heard this 2 days ago, I could only chuckle and shake my head. Not at MBC news but at Yunho. It isn't really shocking to me and I'm just glad I'm not a fan anymore so the dissapointment is less than most people's reaction. I've stopped putting him on pedestal years ago eversince I lost interest and stopped stanning him and TVXQ.  It wasn't that he did something wrong, it was more and originally the fact that I lost interest in TVXQ's music. That was the start. However, the real turning point was how I was turned off and tired of how much SM mediaplayed and pushed him on various tv appearances as this untouchable "god" with a squeaky clean, goody two shoes, no-flaw and righteous image as if he's Gandhi. That it became way too fake and manufactured by SM for my liking hence why I stopped following and caring. Not to mention those countless of mentions and mediaplays of him being among the highest in the hierarchy of idols in SM and one of SM golden boys (him, Kangta Siwon, Minho, etc.) who can have almost as much influence as LSM in the company made my eyes roll so much. Something about it is just off. This is also SM's fault for pushing this and now their statement defending Yunho backfired and caused MBC to expose what really happened.

 

Yunho visiting this type of place and is a VIP member is very dissapointing and deserving to be called out imo bc:

1) Prostitution is illegal in Korea hence it shouldn't come as a surprise how these type of places e.g. brothels are looked down and breaking the law considering the human trafficking issues.

2) This is an illegal adult ent establishment disguised as a restaurant/bar which is shady enough.

3) Curfew should be taken seriously. Other citizens are working together and cooperating with the authorities to stop the spread of Covid19 but seeing a celebrity breaking the curfew doesn't sit well with them.

-Therefore, for someone who's been carefully building his image throughout the years in the industry for over 15 years, it's really stupid of him that he let himself slip up. Not only breaking curfew but having fun at this type of place that is widely known for being a hotbed for Covid19, with a lack of concern and regard towards safety and health. He should've known better but he didn't. Also, being a VIP, means he's been there countless of times. 

 

However it's not that surprising in regards to him having casual sex (and the possibility of him being a fuckboi) bc I do remember back when I was an obsessed TVXQ fan back around 2007-2010 where I followed this popular livejournal/blog type of site called "DBSKnights (Sleepless Nights)" a TVXQ fansite that delivers constant TVXQ updates and translations to ifans (not sure if the site still exist now as I haven't been there since a long time ago). The admins posted updates regularly including pics from fansites and sasaengs. One of the pics I remember vividly was a pic of him with a girl who look to be in her 20s or around the same age as him at a hotel reception counter before checking into a hotel room. Ofc there's nothing wrong with this especially if it was consensual by both parties. So yeah to me this expose of him having one night stands/no strings attached type of relationship with girls didn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm more surprised at other ppl's reactions who are shocked as they thought he's this righteous guy with morals who would never do this.

 

If people are wondering the "gay" rumors about him, it was actually nothing more than just speculation started by the peeps at the "Who's gay thread" many years ago with the help of some cassies and casual fans who were huge yunjae shippers. So people began to nitpick moments of his interactions with Jaejoong by overanalyzing them and took seriously of some stereotypical gay mannerism and hand gestures he did (which is pretty dumb and insulting bc mannerisms =/= sexual orientation. For example, most people never had a clue that guys like Matt Bomer and Kevin Spacey would be gay before they came out or were outed simply bc didnt have those stereotypes).

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I'm not saying he isn't gay but who knows right? As an old and former fan of him, I could only say that I knew he was actually linked to a several female celebs. I heard he dated a female singer named Bae Seulgi (she was relevant back in the mid 2000s - pretty much a gen 1 or gen 1.5 idol solo singer) back during his early years in the industry. This was widely known among his fansites to the point that the girl received so much hate and harassment by his fans. Also his closeness with one of the CSJH members named Lina was also a topic of discussion that he was suspected to be dating her. Another girl he was linked to was Go Ara during the time when two co-starred in Heading To The Ground which was probably the first drama Yunho acted as lead. I remember reading fanaccs who spotted both of them dating at a cinema but their relationship didn't progress after that, so they stayed friends. He was also linked with Uee. The rumor of him dating BoA was never true and they're just really close friends. If they're dating they won't be so obvious being this open with each other and showing off their closeness on tv until now. I don't think he's gay. At most he's probably just bi but have a bigger attraction towards girls.

 

Rumors stay rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt but also there's a saying that "there's no smoke without fire" so there's truth to some rumors. I could go on more of what I heard abt him but I'll just stop here knowing I could struck a nerve with an army of his worshippers aka his fans who have aggressively protected him, put him on a pedestal, denied the rumors so much, accused me of various things and negged me to oblivion. You could never say anything or they'll come at you with pitchforks bc of how brainwashed they've been in regards to Yunho's reputation onscreen for so many years due to SM mediaplays. Same as other SM stans too with their bandwagon behavior and herd mentality who regarded him as this "god" status who could never do any wrong.

Knetz/sasaengs are even slowly exposing his sly ways of working his way around the loopholes (which is borderline tax evasion): https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2021/03/theqoo-reason-why-u-know-yunho-took.html?m=1

All I'm saying is don't trust your fave idols' image. You never know who they really are offscreen. The entertainment industry is fake as hell.

 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2021 by schue

[lighterxx]

5 minutes ago, schue said:

When I first heard this 2 days ago, I could only chuckle and shake my head. Not at MBC news but at Yunho. It isn't really shocking to me and I'm just glad I'm not a fan anymore so the dissapointment is less than most people's reaction. I've stopped putting him on pedestal years ago eversince I lost interest and stopped stanning him and TVXQ.  It wasn't that he did something wrong, it was more and originally the fact that I lost interest in TVXQ's music. That was the start. However, the real turning point was how I was turned off and tired of how much SM mediaplayed and pushed him on various tv appearances as this untouchable "god" with a squeaky clean, no-flaw and righteous image as if he's Gandhi. That it became way too fake and manufactured by SM for my liking hence why I stopped following and caring. Not to mention those countless of mentions and mediaplays of him being among the highest in the hierarchy of idols in SM and one of SM golden boys with (him, Kangta Siwon, Minho, etc.) who can have almost as much control as LSM in the company made my eyes roll so much. Something about it is just off. This is also SM's fault and now their statement defending Yunho backfired and caused MBC to expose what really happened.

 

Yunho visiting this type of place and is a VIP member is very dissapointing imo bc:

1) Prostitution is illegal in Korea hence it shouldn't come as a surprise how these type of places e.g. brothels are looked down and breaking the law in considering the human trafficking issues

2) This is an illegal adult ent establishment disguised as a restaurant/bar which is shady enough.

3) Curfew should be taken seriously. Other citizens are working together and cooperating with the authorities to stop the spread of Covid19 but seeing a celebrity breaking the curfew doesn't sit well with them.

-Therefore, for someone who's been carefully building his image throughout the years in the industry for over 15 years, it's really stupid of him that he let himself slip. Not only breaking curfew but having fun at a place that is widely known for being a hotbed for Covid19, with a lack of concern and regard in terms of safety and health. He should've known better but he didn't. Also, being a VIP, means he's been there countless of times. 

 

 

However not that surprising in regards to him having casual sex (and the possibility of him being a fuckboi) bc I do remember back when I was an obsessed TVXQ fan back around 2007-2010 where I would follow this popular livejournal type of site called "DBSKnights" a TVXQ fansite that delivers constant TVXQ updates and translations to ifans (not sure if the site still exist now as I haven't been there since a long time ago). The admins posted updates regularly including pics from fansites and sasaengs. One of the pics I remember vividly was a pic of him with a girl who look to be in her 20s or around the same age as him at a hotel counter before checking into a hotel room. Ofc there's nothing wrong with this especially if it was consensual by both parties. So yeah to me this expose of him having one night stands/no strings attached type of relationship with girls didn't surprise in the slightest. I'm more surprised at other ppl's reactions who are shocked as they thought he's this righteous guy with morals who would never do this.

 

If people are wondering the "gay" speculations about him, it was actually nothing more than just a speculation started by the peeps at the "Who's gay thread" many years ago with the help of some cassies and casual fans who were huge yunjae shippers. So people began to nitpick moments of his interactions with Jaejoong by overanalyzing them and took seriously of some stereotypical gay mannerism and gestures he did (which is pretty dumb and insulting bc mannerisms =/= sexual orientation. For example, most people never had a clue that guys like Matt Bomer and Kevin Spacey would be gay before they came out or were outed simply bc didnt have those stereotypes).

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I'm not saying he isn't gay but who knows right? As an old and former fan of him, I could only say that I knew he was actually linked to a couple of female celebs. I heard he dated a female singer named Bae Seulgi (she was relevant back in the mid 2000s - pretty much a gen 1 or gen 1.5 idol solo singer) back during his early years in the industry. This was widely known among his fansites to the point that the girl received hate and harassment by his fans. Another girl he was linked to was Go Ara during the time when two co-starred in Heading To The Ground which was probably the first drama Yunho acted as lead. I remember reading fanaccs who spotted both of them dating at a cinema but their relationship didn't progress after that, so they stayed friends. He was also linked with Uee. The rumor of him dating BoA was never true and they're just really close friends. If they're dating they won't be so obvious being this open with each other and showing off their closeness on tv. I don't think he's gay. At most he's probably just bi but have a bigger attraction towards girls.

 

Rumors stay rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt but also there's a saying that "there's no smoke without fire" so there's truth to some rumors. I could go on more of what I heard abt him but I'll just stop here knowing I could struck a nerve with an army of his worshippers aka his fans who have aggressively protected him, put him on a pedestal, denied the rumors so much, accused me of various things and negged me to oblivion. You could never say anything or they'll come at you with pitchforks bc of how brainwashed they've been in regards to Yunho's reputation onscreen for so many years due to SM mediaplays. Same as other SM stans too with their bandwagon behavior and herd mentality who regarded him as this "god" status who could never do any wrong.

Knetz/sasaengs are even slowly exposing his sly ways of working his way around the loopholes (which is borderline tax evasion): https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2021/03/theqoo-reason-why-u-know-yunho-took.html?m=1

All I'm saying is don't trust your fave idols' image. You never know who they really are offscreen. The entertainment industry is fake as hell.

 

 

 

While I won't say anything about things you stated, I have to add a point about tax issue. I know it seems bad but it's a completely legal procedure and not an evasion. It shouldnt be treated as suchm tax reductions exists for a reason, corporate tax at times can go over the value of the company, or take almost %50 of the profit, reductions exists for this reason. I know room salons are absolutely shitty in my view considering how they work, but as long as this said company exists, it's completely legal and calling it almost tax evasion, is like calling an egg, bread. They are both about breakfast but they are not same thing. I hope I explained it good enough?

[schue]

23 minutes ago, lighterxx said:

While I won't say anything about things you stated, I have to add a point about tax issue. I know it seems bad but it's a completely legal procedure and not an evasion. It shouldnt be treated as suchm tax reductions exists for a reason, corporate tax at times can go over the value of the company, or take almost %50 of the profit, reductions exists for this reason. I know room salons are absolutely shitty in my view considering how they work, but as long as this said company exists, it's completely legal and calling it almost tax evasion, is like calling an egg, bread. They are both about breakfast but they are not same thing. I hope I explained it good enough?

Yes I know it's legal and according to law he isn't breaking rules so he isn't gonna be charged but he seems to be  taking advantage of the loopholes. I didn't say it's 100% tax evasion... but it is what knetz are accusing him of...especially the way they're questioning his intention with how borderline it seems and how they're saying there's a paper-thin difference between tax reduction and tax evasion. That you would have to argue with those knetz and not me. If the scandal over him breaking curfew, lack of regard towards Covid19 and visiting room salons never happened, this would've been left alone and nobody would question him or find any faults with this building.  If anything I'm just showing his image isn't the same anymore. The reaction and perception that of what people have towards him is a complete 180° change. His image has taken a hit and at this point everyone is accusing and dragging him through the mud by scrutinizing and questioning anything that has to do with him.

Edited March 14, 2021 by schue

[lighterxx]

Just now, schue said:

Yes I know it's legal and according to law he isn't breaking rules so he isn't gonna be charged but he seems to be  taking advantage of the loopholes. I didn't say it's 100% tax evasion... but it is what knetz are accusing him of...especially the way they're questioning his intention with how borderline it seems and how they're saying there's a paper-thin difference between tax reduction and tax evasion. That you would have to argue with those knetz and not me. If this scandal over him breaking curfew and visiting room salons never happened, this would've been left alone and nobody would question him or find any faults with this building.  If anything I'm just showing his image isn't the same anymore. The reaction and perception that of what people have towards his is a complete 180° change. His image has taken a hit and at this point everyone is accusing and dragging him through the mud by scrutinizing and questioning anything that has to do with him.

There is a reason this is news from pann not news articles T^T because it's not even loophole, issue here can only be him saying he doesn't have buildings but he actually does, that's all 

Also about last point, yes this would be left alone if not for this scandal as it's legal to start with, but you know knetz they love their hunts, especially for popular celebs. I am not telling them to not share them but I wish they actually talked about logical things not this where there is not even issue with rip its at most make fans think "ah he lied"

[renerene]

42 minutes ago, schue said:

When I first heard this 2 days ago, I could only chuckle and shake my head. Not at MBC news but at Yunho. It isn't really shocking to me and I'm just glad I'm not a fan anymore so the dissapointment is less than most people's reaction. I've stopped putting him on pedestal years ago eversince I lost interest and stopped stanning him and TVXQ.  It wasn't that he did something wrong, it was more and originally the fact that I lost interest in TVXQ's music. That was the start. However, the real turning point was how I was turned off and tired of how much SM mediaplayed and pushed him on various tv appearances as this untouchable "god" with a squeaky clean, no-flaw and righteous image as if he's Gandhi. That it became way too fake and manufactured by SM for my liking hence why I stopped following and caring. Not to mention those countless of mentions and mediaplays of him being among the highest in the hierarchy of idols in SM and one of SM golden boys with (him, Kangta Siwon, Minho, etc.) who can have almost as much control as LSM in the company made my eyes roll so much. Something about it is just off. This is also SM's fault and now their statement defending Yunho backfired and caused MBC to expose what really happened.

 

Yunho visiting this type of place and is a VIP member is very dissapointing imo bc:

1) Prostitution is illegal in Korea hence it shouldn't come as a surprise how these type of places e.g. brothels are looked down and breaking the law in considering the human trafficking issues

2) This is an illegal adult ent establishment disguised as a restaurant/bar which is shady enough.

3) Curfew should be taken seriously. Other citizens are working together and cooperating with the authorities to stop the spread of Covid19 but seeing a celebrity breaking the curfew doesn't sit well with them.

-Therefore, for someone who's been carefully building his image throughout the years in the industry for over 15 years, it's really stupid of him that he let himself slip. Not only breaking curfew but having fun at a place that is widely known for being a hotbed for Covid19, with a lack of concern and regard in terms of safety and health. He should've known better but he didn't. Also, being a VIP, means he's been there countless of times. 

 

 

However not that surprising in regards to him having casual sex (and the possibility of him being a fuckboi) bc I do remember back when I was an obsessed TVXQ fan back around 2007-2010 where I would follow this popular livejournal type of site called "DBSKnights" a TVXQ fansite that delivers constant TVXQ updates and translations to ifans (not sure if the site still exist now as I haven't been there since a long time ago). The admins posted updates regularly including pics from fansites and sasaengs. One of the pics I remember vividly was a pic of him with a girl who look to be in her 20s or around the same age as him at a hotel counter before checking into a hotel room. Ofc there's nothing wrong with this especially if it was consensual by both parties. So yeah to me this expose of him having one night stands/no strings attached type of relationship with girls didn't surprise in the slightest. I'm more surprised at other ppl's reactions who are shocked as they thought he's this righteous guy with morals who would never do this.

 

If people are wondering the "gay" speculations about him, it was actually nothing more than just a speculation started by the peeps at the "Who's gay thread" many years ago with the help of some cassies and casual fans who were huge yunjae shippers. So people began to nitpick moments of his interactions with Jaejoong by overanalyzing them and took seriously of some stereotypical gay mannerism and gestures he did (which is pretty dumb and insulting bc mannerisms =/= sexual orientation. For example, most people never had a clue that guys like Matt Bomer and Kevin Spacey would be gay before they came out or were outed simply bc didnt have those stereotypes).

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I'm not saying he isn't gay but who knows right? As an old and former fan of him, I could only say that I knew he was actually linked to a couple of female celebs. I heard he dated a female singer named Bae Seulgi (she was relevant back in the mid 2000s - pretty much a gen 1 or gen 1.5 idol solo singer) back during his early years in the industry. This was widely known among his fansites to the point that the girl received hate and harassment by his fans. Another girl he was linked to was Go Ara during the time when two co-starred in Heading To The Ground which was probably the first drama Yunho acted as lead. I remember reading fanaccs who spotted both of them dating at a cinema but their relationship didn't progress after that, so they stayed friends. He was also linked with Uee. The rumor of him dating BoA was never true and they're just really close friends. If they're dating they won't be so obvious being this open with each other and showing off their closeness on tv. I don't think he's gay. At most he's probably just bi but have a bigger attraction towards girls.

 

Rumors stay rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt but also there's a saying that "there's no smoke without fire" so there's truth to some rumors. I could go on more of what I heard abt him but I'll just stop here knowing I could struck a nerve with an army of his worshippers aka his fans who have aggressively protected him, put him on a pedestal, denied the rumors so much, accused me of various things and negged me to oblivion. You could never say anything or they'll come at you with pitchforks bc of how brainwashed they've been in regards to Yunho's reputation onscreen for so many years due to SM mediaplays. Same as other SM stans too with their bandwagon behavior and herd mentality who regarded him as this "god" status who could never do any wrong.

Knetz/sasaengs are even slowly exposing his sly ways of working his way around the loopholes (which is borderline tax evasion): https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2021/03/theqoo-reason-why-u-know-yunho-took.html?m=1

All I'm saying is don't trust your fave idols' image. You never know who they really are offscreen. The entertainment industry is fake as hell.

 

 

 

I dont follow him closely but I saw a clip of Hyoyeon on a show where they were talking about her being at SM so long possibly becoming a director. Yunho was there and they asked who she thought would make it first, Yunho or her. Of course she said him because of his "passion" but everything about it absolutely rubbed me the wrong way. Didn't seem like it was her true opinion either. I definitely side eye the whole passionate man crew they keep pushing.  

[schue]

10 minutes ago, renerene said:

I dont follow him closely but I saw a clip of Hyoyeon on a show where they were talking about her being at SM so long possibly becoming a director. Yunho was there and they asked who she thought would make it first, Yunho or her. Of course she said him because of his "passion" but everything about it absolutely rubbed me the wrong way. Didn't seem like it was her true opinion either. I definitely side eye the whole passionate man crew they keep pushing.  

Well of course Hyoyeon would say Yunho bc he's there and he's like one of the biggest seniors in the company rn. He's only behind BoA and Kangta in terms of seniority. It's nothing more than just putting the seniors above you in a Korean hierarchy system. I don't blame her bc she's probably trying to play her cards right and trying to earn brownie points by getting on the good side of certain people in the company she's under. I wouldn't be surprised if Yunho holds some kind of high profile/significant position in the company almost like BoA's and Kangta's executive/director positions. Yeah the "SM passionate men" thing rubbed me off the wrong way too especially with how much they're pushing it. Kangta was often mentioned as one of the "passionate men" crew until he had that cheating scandal.

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22 hours ago, schue said:

When I first heard this 2 days ago, I could only chuckle and shake my head. Not at MBC news but at Yunho. It isn't really shocking to me and I'm just glad I'm not a fan anymore so the dissapointment is less than most people's reaction. I've stopped putting him on pedestal years ago eversince I lost interest and stopped stanning him and TVXQ.  It wasn't that he did something wrong, it was more and originally the fact that I lost interest in TVXQ's music. That was the start. However, the real turning point was how I was turned off and tired of how much SM mediaplayed and pushed him on various tv appearances as this untouchable "god" with a squeaky clean, goody two shoes, no-flaw and righteous image as if he's Gandhi. That it became way too fake and manufactured by SM for my liking hence why I stopped following and caring. Not to mention those countless of mentions and mediaplays of him being among the highest in the hierarchy of idols in SM and one of SM golden boys (him, Kangta Siwon, Minho, etc.) who can have almost as much influence as LSM in the company made my eyes roll so much. Something about it is just off. This is also SM's fault for pushing this and now their statement defending Yunho backfired and caused MBC to expose what really happened.

 

Yunho visiting this type of place and is a VIP member is very dissapointing and deserving to be called out imo bc:

1) Prostitution is illegal in Korea hence it shouldn't come as a surprise how these type of places e.g. brothels are looked down and breaking the law considering the human trafficking issues.

2) This is an illegal adult ent establishment disguised as a restaurant/bar which is shady enough.

3) Curfew should be taken seriously. Other citizens are working together and cooperating with the authorities to stop the spread of Covid19 but seeing a celebrity breaking the curfew doesn't sit well with them.

-Therefore, for someone who's been carefully building his image throughout the years in the industry for over 15 years, it's really stupid of him that he let himself slip up. Not only breaking curfew but having fun at this type of place that is widely known for being a hotbed for Covid19, with a lack of concern and regard towards safety and health. He should've known better but he didn't. Also, being a VIP, means he's been there countless of times. 

 

However it's not that surprising in regards to him having casual sex (and the possibility of him being a fuckboi) bc I do remember back when I was an obsessed TVXQ fan back around 2007-2010 where I followed this popular livejournal/blog type of site called "DBSKnights (Sleepless Nights)" a TVXQ fansite that delivers constant TVXQ updates and translations to ifans (not sure if the site still exist now as I haven't been there since a long time ago). The admins posted updates regularly including pics from fansites and sasaengs. One of the pics I remember vividly was a pic of him with a girl who look to be in her 20s or around the same age as him at a hotel reception counter before checking into a hotel room. Ofc there's nothing wrong with this especially if it was consensual by both parties. So yeah to me this expose of him having one night stands/no strings attached type of relationship with girls didn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm more surprised at other ppl's reactions who are shocked as they thought he's this righteous guy with morals who would never do this.

 

If people are wondering the "gay" rumors about him, it was actually nothing more than just speculation started by the peeps at the "Who's gay thread" many years ago with the help of some cassies and casual fans who were huge yunjae shippers. So people began to nitpick moments of his interactions with Jaejoong by overanalyzing them and took seriously of some stereotypical gay mannerism and hand gestures he did (which is pretty dumb and insulting bc mannerisms =/= sexual orientation. For example, most people never had a clue that guys like Matt Bomer and Kevin Spacey would be gay before they came out or were outed simply bc didnt have those stereotypes).

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I'm not saying he isn't gay but who knows right? As an old and former fan of him, I could only say that I knew he was actually linked to a several female celebs. I heard he dated a female singer named Bae Seulgi (she was relevant back in the mid 2000s - pretty much a gen 1 or gen 1.5 idol solo singer) back during his early years in the industry. This was widely known among his fansites to the point that the girl received so much hate and harassment by his fans. Also his closeness with one of the CSJH members named Lina was also a topic of discussion that he was suspected to be dating her. Another girl he was linked to was Go Ara during the time when two co-starred in Heading To The Ground which was probably the first drama Yunho acted as lead. I remember reading fanaccs who spotted both of them dating at a cinema but their relationship didn't progress after that, so they stayed friends. He was also linked with Uee. The rumor of him dating BoA was never true and they're just really close friends. If they're dating they won't be so obvious being this open with each other and showing off their closeness on tv until now. I don't think he's gay. At most he's probably just bi but have a bigger attraction towards girls.

 

Rumors stay rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt but also there's a saying that "there's no smoke without fire" so there's truth to some rumors. I could go on more of what I heard abt him but I'll just stop here knowing I could struck a nerve with an army of his worshippers aka his fans who have aggressively protected him, put him on a pedestal, denied the rumors so much, accused me of various things and negged me to oblivion. You could never say anything or they'll come at you with pitchforks bc of how brainwashed they've been in regards to Yunho's reputation onscreen for so many years due to SM mediaplays. Same as other SM stans too with their bandwagon behavior and herd mentality who regarded him as this "god" status who could never do any wrong.

Knetz/sasaengs are even slowly exposing his sly ways of working his way around the loopholes (which is borderline tax evasion): https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2021/03/theqoo-reason-why-u-know-yunho-took.html?m=1

All I'm saying is don't trust your fave idols' image. You never know who they really are offscreen. The entertainment industry is fake as hell.

 

 

 

Omg spill the tea on junsu please, he had the "angel xiah" image back in db5k. What dirt did he have on that website. Seriously this is quite interesting.

Now I wonder how changmin dealt with such a character like Yunho all along. 

 

 

Edited March 15, 2021 by domination

[gesiere]

Most of the comments on this thread.... Y'all are actually kind of worst, you guys are some thing else. Sure he deserves criticism but you guys are all putting your predictions without even knowing if he actually did thses things and using it to bash him, a grown man going to a salon or whatever where every man in Korea and even your favs go to..... 

The way you guys write your comments with so much contempt baffles me.

Y'all are not so different from the bullies you are trying to cancel.

[schue]

On 3/16/2021 at 12:14 AM, domination said:

Omg spill the tea on junsu please, he had the "angel xiah" image back in db5k. What dirt did he have on that website. Seriously this is quite interesting.

Now I wonder how changmin dealt with such a character like Yunho all along. 

 

 

Pls don't mistaken me as some kind of insider, psychic, rumor/prediction account or any of those BS. I don't claim to know any inside info. I was just a former long time big fan of TVXQ who biased Yunho, followed Kpop and TVXQ news, rumors and updates since I was 14 years old. What I'm telling here are also mostly based on my observations (and some known news/facts as well as rumors).

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About Junsu, I remember back then on one of their reality shows, Changmin described him a word in korean "pure" that could also be translated as "gullible". Which also implied that he could easily be fooled/tricked. I can see why after what have happened now. The "angel Xiah" nickname might not be that off from who he really was. He's probably a nice person but was easily influenced by people around him who took advantage of him and along the way he also made mistakes and dumb decisions causing him his own downfall. He also had this "dumb" image which 50% of time I believed he was playing along with it but also 50% showed how really gullible/naive he was. I remember he was very close with Yoochun(they got along the best..yikes) and from the rumors I heard, Junsu's parents were some of the first ppl that actually encouraged him to file the lawsuit against SM so that they could have cosmetic business in China. One of the pictures from DBSKnights site that I remember was a picture of him at an atm/deposit machine a day before the huge shocking lawsuit news broke out to the public. Also from what we heard few years ago, his hotel business was mismanaged by his family causing him alot of trouble and debt. Pitiful guy. It's a shame bc back then during TVXQ's peak and before the lawsuit he was the wall and the most popular idol ranking in at no 1. He went from being the singer/idol with the biggest fanbase and most gp recognition for his voice in Korea  and getting acknowledgements and shout-outs from several A-list actors and actresses to nowadays becoming someone irrelevant in the industry and reputation gone downhill. Plus, the cockblock by SM which isn't exclusive to him and JYJ, basically happened to anyone who tried to mess with SM in the middle of their active contracts.

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I don't know if this is the dirt you're looking for but if you're looking for some really nasty dirt there's a rumor during his childhood/teen years of him and his then childhood bff Eunhyuk (from SJ) doing something that no one asked or wanted to hear.

http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/12/eunhyuks-past-scandal-brought-back-to.html?m=1

(Eunhyuk mentioned he and his "friend" and he said the friend was Junsu .Idk exactly how Eunhyuk thought it was okay to say stuff about this openly and proudly in public. In today's era especially after #metoo movement, he and Junsu would've been cancelled. It's one thing to do it when you were dumb immature young boys but to tell the story abt it when he's an adul and not seeing how wrong it was after many years is really something else)

https://jo-hyuksu.livejournal.com/7867.html

https://lameballs.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/723/

https://noxarcanax.tumblr.com/post/131994875864/i-love-suju-and-eunhyuk-is-one-of-my-bias-if-not/amp

(There's so many versions of this especially from defensive fans trying to defend their oppas and making up excuses  but there's one clear point about what happened, so you get the gist)

 

Changmin was the fourth in my TVXQ bias list. If you were to ask me to list down my bias list back then:

1. Yunho 2. Junsu 3. Jaejoong 4.Changmin 5. Yoochun (even before the rape and room salon scandal, he was just the member that was least special. Bland,  forgettable and had the worst singing voice/vocals)

Even though Changmin is the maknae and one of my least-liked members back then, as I became older now, I realized he's probably the most upright, disciplined, level-headed and mature guy in the group. I believe he had the best upbringing growing up in a moderate middle class household and both his parents were teachers. He's the most rational guy and the smartest academically. Also the most blunt (hence the evil maknae nickname). I admit I didn't like him much back then bc he came across pretty disrespectful to the hyungs but now I realized he actually makes sense. I remember noticing his subtle expressions showing his slight dissaproval  and snarky attitude towards what other members said or did. He's also the one with the best clapbacks and savage remarks in group. There's a reason he's the least popular among the 5 members bc he doesn't seem to like the limelight that much compared to others, and keeps a private low-profile life. The fact he got married first shows that he cares about his happiness first than his fans or his career. He wished he had a normal life and not become a public figure. He never tried to paint himself as a saint or keep a good or clean image unlike Yunho and was honest about watching porn in front his mom on national tv. He also has some dating rumors and few minor controversies but nothing like  what is hitting Yunho rn and the mess/scandals of JYJ.

This might come as a surprise to many Kpop fans these days but back then during TVXQ 5 member era, Yunho and Changmin were actually awkward and were the least close. As weird as this might sound now, Changmin actually got along better with the JYJ guys than with Yunho at the time but that's also bc it was easier for him to give snarky remarks and clown those JYJ guys especially Junsu. Yunho was leader since then, so I could see Changmin had some respect towards him. Changmin and Yunho became closer as TVXQ duo was formed.

Knowing Changmin's personality, I'm sure he cut ties and doesn't keep in touch with JYJ anymore. About what happened to Yunho now, I'm sure he knew and was not surprised that Yunho went to those places but he must be like," Hyung, why are you such an idiot? Off all places esp during Covid19 that's the type of place people avoid the most". 

 

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by schue

[Vanessamoon]

On 3/16/2021 at 6:34 PM, schue said:

Pls don't mistaken me as some kind of insider, psychic, rumor/prediction account or any of those BS. I don't claim to know any inside info. I was just a former long time big fan of TVXQ who biased Yunho, followed Kpop and TVXQ news, rumors and updates since I was 14 years old. What I'm telling here are also mostly based on my observations (and some known news/facts as well as rumors).

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About Junsu, I remember back then on one of their reality shows, Changmin described him a word in korean "pure" that could also be translated as "gullible". Which also implied that he could easily be fooled/tricked. I can see why after what have happened now. The "angel Xiah" nickname might not be that off from who he really was. He's probably a nice person but was easily influenced by people around him who took advantage of him and along the way he also made mistakes and dumb decisions causing him his own downfall. He also had this "dumb" image which 50% of time I believed he was playing along with it but also 50% showed how really gullible/naive he was. I remember he was very close with Yoochun(they got along the best..yikes) and from the rumors I heard, Junsu's parents were some of the first ppl that actually encouraged him to file the lawsuit against SM so that they could have cosmetic business in China. One of the pictures from DBSKnights site that I remember was a picture of him at an atm/deposit machine a day before the huge shocking lawsuit news broke out to the public. Also from what we heard few years ago, his hotel business was mismanaged by his family causing him alot of trouble and debt. Pitiful guy. It's a shame bc back then during TVXQ's peak and before the lawsuit he was the wall and the most popular idol ranking in at no 1. He went from being the singer/idol with the biggest fanbase and most gp recognition for his voice in Korea  and getting acknowledgements and shout-outs from several A-list actors and actresses to nowadays becoming someone irrelevant in the industry and reputation gone downhill. Plus, the cockblock by SM which isn't exclusive to him and JYJ, basically happened to anyone who tried to mess with SM in the middle of their active contracts.

  Reveal hidden contents

I don't know if this is the dirt you're looking for but if you're looking for some really nasty dirt there's a rumor during his childhood/teen years of him and his then childhood bff Eunhyuk (from SJ) doing something that no one asked or wanted to hear.

http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/12/eunhyuks-past-scandal-brought-back-to.html?m=1

(Eunhyuk mentioned he and his "friend" and he said the friend was Junsu .Idk exactly how Eunhyuk thought it was okay to say stuff about this openly and proudly in public. In today's era especially after #metoo movement, he and Junsu would've been cancelled. It's one thing to do it when you were dumb immature young boys but to tell the story abt it when he's an adul and not seeing how wrong it was after many years is really something else)

https://jo-hyuksu.livejournal.com/7867.html

https://lameballs.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/723/

https://noxarcanax.tumblr.com/post/131994875864/i-love-suju-and-eunhyuk-is-one-of-my-bias-if-not/amp

(There's so many versions of this especially from defensive fans trying to defend their oppas and making up excuses  but there's one clear point about what happened, so you get the gist)

 

Changmin was the fourth in my TVXQ bias list. If you were to ask me to list down my bias list back then:

1. Yunho 2. Junsu 3. Jaejoong 4.Changmin 5. Yoochun (even before the rape and room salon scandal, he was just the member that was least special. Bland,  forgettable and had the worst singing voice/vocals)

Even though Changmin is the maknae and one of my least-liked members back then, as I became older now, I realized he's probably the most upright, disciplined, level-headed and mature guy in the group. I believe he had the best upbringing growing up in a moderate middle class household and both his parents were teachers. He's the most rational guy and the smartest academically. Also the most blunt (hence the evil maknae nickname). I admit I didn't like him much back then bc he came across pretty disrespectful to the hyungs but now I realized he actually makes sense. I remember noticing his subtle expressions showing his slight dissaproval  and snarky attitude towards what other members said or did. He's also the one with the best clapbacks and savage remarks in group. There's a reason he's the least popular among the 5 members bc he doesn't seem to like the limelight that much compared to others, and keeps a private low-profile life. The fact he got married first shows that he cares about his happiness first than his fans or his career. He wished he had a normal life and not become a public figure. He never tried to paint himself as a saint or keep a good or clean image unlike Yunho and was honest about watching porn in front his mom on national tv. He also has some dating rumors and few minor controversies but nothing like  what is hitting Yunho rn and the mess/scandals of JYJ.

This might come as a surprise to many Kpop fans these days but back then during TVXQ 5 member era, Yunho and Changmin were actually awkward and were the least close. As weird as this might sound now, Changmin actually got along better with the JYJ guys than with Yunho at the time but that's also bc it was easier for him to give snarky remarks and clown those JYJ guys especially Junsu. Yunho was leader since then, so I could see Changmin had some respect towards him. Changmin and Yunho became closer as TVXQ duo was formed.

Knowing Changmin's personality, I'm sure he cut ties and doesn't keep in touch with JYJ anymore. About what happened to Yunho now, I'm sure he knew and was not surprised that Yunho went to those places but he must be like," Hyung, why are you such an idiot? Off all places esp during Covid19 that's the type of place people avoid the most". 

 

 

Do you have more tea on yunho? The things you wrote about him are really interesting! 

[Kpop_fan178]

On 3/13/2021 at 7:44 PM, xiapie said:

I think it has already been said but I am mostly surprised that he isn't gay. In the end we really don't know those people.  

Other than that I am not really surprised that he pays for sex. I am pretty sure the majority of the male idols are either visiting room salons or they just have sugar babies, because let's be honest if you are famous and don't want to be in a relationship just want to flirt and hook up with people it's more convinient to do it with sex workers. I would consider it problematic, if it turns out he was systematically raping sex workes like Yoochun.  So until the sex workers themselves say something bad about him then I don't really care as much. 

However the timing is definitely funny. Changmin is married, lately there were more people praising Yunho for his clean image and the cherry on top he is(was?) about to become an MC on a hyped reality show. So ha! Almost twenty years of squeaky clean image is going down the drain at the most unconvienient time. If anything his clean image is going to be the reason why he is getting dragged through the mud. People had high expectations of him so they are going to be more  disappointed. It would be interesting to watch how is this going to play out for him. 

I mean he is someone who does have a lot of friends and there were 4 guys and 1 woman soo I wouldn't jump to conclusions that he went there to have sex.   

[penyair]

so... what happened? feels like everyone forgot about this already