sensitive content [Knetizen+NB] Former AOA member Kwon Mina reveals she was s*xually assaulted by a male celebrity during middle school + Shin Jimin hasn’t apologized to her yet

[Jikrytae]

1 hour ago, Charlene said:

Because she was watching Mina being bullied for years and she said nothing. 

Unless something was said more recently, we don't actually know the extent of Seolhyun's involvement or even knowledge of the situation with Jimin, we only have Mina's insinuations of guilt. But she's mainly gone after Jimin. Speaking of which, if she brought this up only to contrast an apologetic assaulter with unapologetic Jimin... big yikes. Who accepts an apology from a sexual assaulter anyway?  Even if Jimin hurt her, she can't allow herself to go off the deep end obsessing over her like that. It's not healthy. She already got a sort of revenge. She shouldn't go seeking another insincere apology. It won't help. Neither will downplaying an assault just to get back at Jimin, if that's in fact what she's doing. That would be irresponsible in multiple ways.

Edited March 8, 2021 by Jikrytae

[Jikrytae]

59 minutes ago, Charlene said:

Didn't people drag you enough for this yesterday? Can you stop?

I could "stop," but I'm not going to. If you don't have a valid response to anything I've said, don't say anything. 

[Jikrytae]

4 hours ago, YooJeong said:

ok, you saying "who forgives a sexual assaulter anyway" is messed up in SO many levels.

1) Your statement implies that Mina's response to her own trauma is weird or wrong, as if her choosing to forgive is "wrong" or weird.. You're painting her negatively for choosing to forgive. Forgiveness is her way to heal and cope from the trauma. There are no "rules" for what's right or wrong.

2) Her forgiving him doesn't make the assault any less traumatic and terrible, it means this was her way to survive and overcome a traumatic experience. Forgiveness can be healing for a a lot of survivors, not all, and it's extremely rude and invalidating that you paint her negatively/insinuate there was something "wrong" with her response. It's her response to her trauma, there's nothing wrong or odd about it. Everyone copes differently. 

Unless she's exaggerating what this person did, It is weird to simply forgive them. Very weird. And I know you secretly realize this, you just want to be PC too desperately to admit it. Couldn't be me. It's okay to be truthful. No one will wag their finger at you disapprovingly, I promise. 

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3) You focusing on Mina's forgiveness of her assaulter rather than on the terrible fact that she was bullied and assaulted is concerning and indicates your priority is focusing on painting Mina negatively rather than supporting someone who clearly had a lot of trauma and hell during her days as an idol. 

4) Seolhyun and every AOA member who watched and knew about the bullying needs to apologize. Being a bystander is another form of bullying. People are mentioning Seolhyun specifically bc she;'s most famous + she's Jimin's best friend/"soulmate." But every member who was a bystander should apologize and it seems most members did at some point except Seolhyun, so...

 

I don't have a priority of "painting Mina negatively." I'm "painting" Mina objectively, using the facts presented to me. Am I supposed just sit here and pretend it's okay that Mina apparently wants so badly to make Jimin out to be the devil incarnate that she's even willing to go as far as comparing a rapist to her, favorably even!? Just because she hasn't apologized and he did? Because I'm not going to do that, and neither should you. Even verbal bullying isn't okay, and emotional torment can be very damaging in its own way, but they're simply NOT comparable offenses. 

While I don't doubt that Jimin was mean to Mina and caused her emotional strife, it's clear as day that Mina is in her own head. She's mentally unstable and is still focusing on what Jimin did to her instead of earnestly trying to start the healing process, even after enacting her revenge (because that's clearly something she wanted.) She may even be subconsciously assigning blame to Jimin for damage caused by things other people did to her. You preach about the healing value of forgiveness, but you don't find it at all peculiar that she's inexplicably willing to forgive a rapist, but she's unwilling to let go of this grudge with Jimin for the sake of her own well-being? Dwelling on the past won't help her, searching for another insincere apology won't help her, and normalizing sexual assault for the sake of getting back at Jimin, or anyone else she feels has wronged her, won't help anyone. Period. 

We don't know what the other members of AOA saw or knew. We just don't. So there's little point in speculating, unless of course you're needlessly out for blood. 

Edited March 9, 2021 by Jikrytae

[Jikrytae]

14 hours ago, Mami3chan said:

if you don't have anything worthwhile to say besides trying to victim blame Mina don't say anything. 

Too late. I've already said a lot in this thread, everything I need to say on this topic, and you've chosen to self-righteously dismiss all of it as mere "victim blaming" with a single-sentence response instead of actually addressing any of my points. I guess you're the one with nothing worthwhile to say. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Jikrytae

[Jikrytae]

21 minutes ago, Mami3chan said:

nah I did read multiple of your posts and I read behind the lines so my point stands still and you can go on trying to redeem yourself lol

#don'tsayanything

If you want a point that stands, you should maybe try making one first. You're only proving me right. Composing these snarky yet completely pointless responses is just as much a waste of your time as it is everyone else's to read them.

[Jikrytae]

1 hour ago, Mami3chan said:

your whole argument is pointless and a waste of time that's why I don't even bother explaining you shit cause others did already it's like speaking to a damn wall cause your brain can't practice thinking 

I'm sure this is all going much better in your own head.