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'2NE1' trends on Twitter after policeman shoots unarmed mother and son in Tarlac 
Published December 21, 2020 12:33pm 

The Korean girl group "2NE1" trended on Twitter on Monday morning after a video of a policeman shooting an unarmed mother and son in Tarlac went viral.

If you're wondering what the K-Pop group has to do with a crime that happened in the Philippines, here's what. 

In the viral video, Police Senior Master Sergeant Jonel Nuezca was seen shooting an unarmed mother and son, Sonya Rufino Gregorio and Frank Anthony Gregoria, in Barangay Cabayaosan in Paniqui, Tarlac.

An initial investigation showed that Nuezca and the victims had an altercation regarding right of way, before the shooting incident transpired.

Sonya was seen in the video hugging Frank Anthony in an attempt to stop the latter from facing the policeman. 

According to the police, Nuezca went to the house of the mother and son after hearing an explosion caused by a "boga," an improvised cannon made of PVC pipes usually used during New Year celebrations.

Reports said Frank Anthony was allegedly drunk when the conversation happened.

Moments before Nuezca shot Sonya and Frank, the viral video showed Nuezca's daughter shouting at the victims, saying "My father is a policeman."

Sonya then answered, shouting back lyrics of the 2NE1 song "I don't care" before Nuezca was seen shooting the mother and son twice in the head.

On Twitter, netizens were heart broken over the incident and pointed out how they won't be able to look the song the same way again. 2NE1 trended on Twitter with over 34,000 tweets as of writing.  

Along with #StopTheKillingsPH, #MyFatherIsAPoliceman also trended on Philippine Twitter with over 140,000 tweets.

Nuezca, who is assigned in Parañaque City, has already surrendered to authorities, minutes after the shooting incident on Sunday afternoon.

He is presently under the custody of Paniqui Police Station and is facing double murder charges. — Jannielyn Ann Bigtas/LA, GMA News

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- The two families are neighbors and already has an ongoing land dispute/lawsuit between them.

- The son was drinking with relatives when he set off the air cannon (which is prohibited) that created a loud noise. 

- The policeman was off duty at home in the province where this happened. He was originally assigned in the capital. 

- A relative informed the son that their neighbor (the policeman) complained of the noise.

- The policeman, his wife and daughter went over to get the air cannon (the pipe the police is holding) as evidence to their complaint.

- The mother defended his adult son, not letting the policeman take her son to the barangay/station.

- The policeman's minor daughter said "My father is a policeman" (he can take the son who used the prohibited air cannon to the barangay/station).

- The mother replied by singing "I don't care~" (she doesn't care if the daughter's father is a policeman). 

- A relative tried to hold bank the adult son (possibly drunk) attempting to cover his mouth so he'd stop arguing. 

- The heated argument continued and went from the air cannon to the land dispute. Everyone is yelling. 

- The policeman took out his gun and shot both the mother and son. Then left with his family. 

- After an hour, the policeman surrendered. He is now in jail facing double murder charge. 

- The president (a lawyer) already stated that the policeman won't be able to escape the consequence of his criminal act. 

- The PNP (Philippine National Police) is considering anger management training for its officers. 

 

 

Filipinos here won't agree with me but I personally think both sides had faults. The adult son shouldn't have been using the prohibited air cannon and the mother shouldn't have tolerated her son. He was allegedly drunk, so aside from the noise, the air cannon could've seriously hurt someone. And singing 'I Don't Care' probably wasn't the best reply knowing the person complaining is someone they already had a conflict with and is armed, because that's the part that pissed off the policeman (he initially just confiscated the air cannon). But the victims didn't deserve to be shot dead. Despite the drunk son, the mother's reply and the relatives yelling, the policeman should've implemented 'maximum tolerance'. He also had the advantage since it was the son who did wrong. There was no need to pull out his firearm.

Instead of arguing and yelling, if they just went to the barangay/station and talked this out with mediation, maybe this could've been settled peacefully. 

And I don't get the hashtag. This is an isolated case between two families with existing conflict. Actually it's just between the policeman and the adult son, the mother just happened to be there. Even the one taking the video said she thought the policeman would also shoot her next because she was taking a video, but then the policeman just left. 

 

Regarding PNP considering anger management training, I think it's because the training for police officers in the country varies. If one gets accepted in the prestigious PNPA (Philippine National Police Academy) they undergo 4 years full of strict studying and rigorous training. But the academy qualifications are high and the spot is limited. Anyone can still be a police officer as long as they have a bachelor's degree. They just need their degree, pass the entrance exam and go on 1 year of training at their local police training camps. Then they get their badge and firearm. The duration and method of training and discipline are different. 

 

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12 hours ago, Ayaewyn said:

- The president (a lawyer) already stated that the policeman won't be able to escape the consequence of his criminal act. 

Are we supposed to believe anything that evil little shit stain says? He encourages this sort of behavior. And this particular cop has several previous homicides on his record. If nothing was done before, why should anyone believe anything will be done now?

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But the victims didn't deserve to be shot dead.

Gee, ya think?

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On 12/23/2020 at 10:49 AM, Jikrytae said:

Are we supposed to believe anything that evil little shit stain says? He encourages this sort of behavior. And this particular cop has several previous homicides on his record. If nothing was done before, why should anyone believe anything will be done now?

Gee, ya think?

I know you're being sarcastic and selective from my entire point, but yes. 

He had 5-6 administrative charges, yes including grave misconduct for homicide, and yes he should've been dealt with then. But if we're going by that, his first case was in 2010, that was way before Duterte. The next were in 2013, 2014 and 2016, also before Duterte, so should people be going after Arroyo/Aquino admins as well? He never should've been allowed to walk away after refusing a drug test especially after his first grave misconduct case, only giving him a month suspension. If he was dealt with then after his fist few cases maybe this incident could've been prevented. 

One thing I learned from living in The Philippines is it doesn't matter who is in power, it's the system. When I went to the capital/big cities I was taught to be careful and that officials/law enforcement there is different from the province where I'm from. If you're on the road, and the mayor's driver violate simple traffic laws, he can get away once he identifies himself. If you're not rich and don't know anyone in power/higher ups there then you're alone, unfortunately, so do self-preservation. 

Of course not all officials are corrupt, just like how I believe not every law enforcement is like that. But people are already condemning the entire police organization. And the media only reports on cases like these in the capital/Luzon. But do they know what the drug lords/ rebels do to the good cops fulfilling their duties in the rest of the country? Suddenly people forgot about the Marawi Siege, the SAF44, etc.

Just to be clear I'm not from Davao, I don't idolize Duterte nor do I agree with all his policies and everything that comes out of his foul mouth. But some of his policies helped many that's why he won and has many supporters. 

 

My post above might sound unsympathetic but I do feel for the victims. However, I'm not surprised with the incident. 

The system needs to change and discipline is important for both the officials and the people.

 

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22 hours ago, Ayaewyn said:

- The two families are neighbors and already has an ongoing land dispute/lawsuit between them.

- The son was drinking with relatives when he set off the air cannon (which is prohibited) that created a loud noise. 

- The policeman was off duty at home in the province where this happened. He was originally assigned in the capital. 

- A relative informed the son that their neighbor (the policeman) complained of the noise.

- The policeman, his wife and daughter went over to get the air cannon (the pipe the police is holding) as evidence to their complaint.

- The mother defended his adult son, not letting the policeman take her son to the barangay/station.

- The policeman's minor daughter said "My father is a policeman" (he can take the son who used the prohibited air cannon to the barangay/station).

- The mother replied by singing "I don't care~" (she doesn't care if the daughter's father is a policeman). 

- A relative tried to hold bank the adult son (possibly drunk) attempting to cover his mouth so he'd stop arguing. 

- The heated argument continued and went from the air cannon to the land dispute. Everyone is yelling. 

- The policeman took out his gun and shot both the mother and son. Then left with his family. 

- After an hour, the policeman surrendered. He is now in jail facing double murder charge. 

 

- The president (a lawyer) already stated that the policeman won't be able to escape the consequence of his criminal act. 

- The PNP (Philippine National Police) is considering anger management training for its officers. 

 

 

This thread is better than the other one.

Filipinos here might not agree with me but I personally think both sides had faults. The adult son shouldn't have been using the prohibited air cannon and the mother shouldn't have tolerated her son. He was allegedly drunk, so aside from the noise, the air cannon could've seriously hurt someone. And singing 'I Don't Care' probably wasn't the best reply knowing the person complaining is someone they already had a conflict with and is armed, because that's the part that pissed off the policeman (he initially just confiscated the air cannon). But the victims didn't deserve to be shot dead. Despite the drunk son, the mother's reply and the relatives yelling, the policeman should've implemented 'maximum tolerance'. He also had the advantage since it was the son who did wrong. There was no need to pull out his firearm.

Instead of arguing and yelling, if they just went to the barangay/station and talked this out with mediation, maybe this could've been settled peacefully. 

And I don't get the hashtag. This is an isolated case between two families with existing conflict. Actually it's just between the policeman and the adult son, the mother just happened to be there. Even the one taking the video said she thought the policeman would also shoot her next because she was taking a video, but then the policeman just left. 

 

Regarding PNP considering anger management training, I think it's because the training for police officers in the country varies. If one gets accepted in the prestigious PNPA (Philippine National Police Academy) they undergo 4 years full of strict studying and rigorous training. But the academy qualifications are high and the spot is limited. Anyone can still be a police officer as long as they have a bachelor's degree. They just need their degree, pass the entrance exam and go on 1 year of training at their local police training camps. Then they get their badge and firearm. The duration and method of training and discipline are different. 

 

Nope there are many cases like this. Police violence is a huge issue there

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On 12/24/2020 at 1:19 PM, Ayaewyn said:

I know. I used to live there. 

I meant its a conflict between two families, not related to war on drugs. 

 

It doesn't have to be one or the other. This incident can be related to both issues at the same time. 

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Critics and rights groups say Duterte’s talk of killing criminals and promises to protect law enforcement have emboldened police to commit and cover up murder. Police reject that.

Government data show that 5,942 suspected drug dealers have been killed by police since 2016. Rights group say that number is an understatement and accuse police of summarily executing users and pushers. Police say those killed had resisted arrest. [x]

 

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17 hours ago, namidaone said:

It doesn't have to be one or the other. This incident can be related to both issues at the same time. 

The cop did refuse a drug test before and didn't show up to a court hearing related to a drug case, but what I'm saying is this specific incident happened when the argument went from the air cannon to the land dispute. 

Ejk's been happening long before the current administration. Duterte did say he'd protect officers if they kill criminals by self-defense, not them committing crime themselves. But I can also see how that statement could be taken advantage by rogue cops. He'd dismissed those that committed robbery, extortion and drug-related offenses before, and sent the minor offenders to Mindanao. But of course that's not highlighted in the news. And some people are generalizing the entire law enforcement based on the outrage in this particular case.

Like I said, it's the system that needs to change. Even Bato is against reinstatement of cops that had committed crimes before. 

 

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