bumpbumplove 78 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I'm tired of so many flexing their faves' duality cuz almost everyone is like that? And it's probably a key debut team criteria. Hbu 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsocks 7,986 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) possessive/delusional fans and dating taboos Edited December 19, 2020 by choiyujins spelling 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 the overly competitive nature of fandoms. i don't know, i feel we kpop fandoms are a lot more competitive with one another then western fandoms. there's always kpop fandoms fighting about something. most times over petty or irrelevant stuff. perhaps the kpop industry makes kpop fandoms this way. plus ifans are influenced by kfans/kfandoms. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 all of it tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter 1,172 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 the toxic competition (to the point where any group who's not 1st place in a category will be called flops even if they're making millions) and when idols practically get forced to do fan service like they're our little dancing monkeys 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobunny 2,314 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 the endless debuts that all sound and look alike 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anii 1,546 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) The rabidness and viciousness of delusional fans The constant lookism The ignorance of idols' mental and physical well-being Excessive competition How artists who are not from sizeable companies or lack connections are at a very huge disadvantage Edited December 19, 2020 by PurpleAnii grammar, formatting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himi 2,493 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 overly protective of their idols like male and female idols can't even interact let alone dating each other without getting hate "forcing" their faves to do stupid fan service competitive and like to compare how their faves are more successful like chill can we just enjoy their music 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliriousness 2,008 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) The hip hop appropriation. As soon as I hear an idol throw in obnoxious adlibs like they’re Migos I turn the song off. Edited December 19, 2020 by marin karin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukihime 1,072 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I don't even know where to start :. The fandom, their delusion, the fact that all that matters is bragging rights, fans don't even hide that all that matters are numbers, keep on streaming even if the song is bad because we need to brag ! How competitive it is, especially among fans. Fans don't even know what "enjoying music" means anymore. The lack of diversity in genre of music, rock will never stand a chance for example no matter how good it is or how talented the group or band is. And let's be real... how fake it seems sometimes. But the worst for me is : The fact that idols are scared of their fans, I enjoy artists actually calling out their "fans" or people acting like it even if they know they'll get backlash, it always makes my blood boil when I see a fandom being ... jerks (if I try to sound nice) and idols just keep quiet, letting "innocent" people getting destroyed/bullied because OMG if I do this they'll turn their hate towards me. I feel the same during dating scandals, I always feel bad when for example one part of the couple gets a lot of hate by the fans of the other and yet they only apologize to their fans, their other half is getting hurt for NOTHING and yet protecting them is impossible. Well in short : FANS ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faelix 12 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The whole toxicity surrounding it from fandoms to the competition. All I want to do is support my faves and enjoy their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mami3chan 7,210 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurahanabira 6,634 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 the obsession over numbers and records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccuish 1,935 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 The delusional fans that will leave the fandom the moment their favorite starts to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerimolda 2,050 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Valuing looks over talent. The "I prefer a pretty* (*see: plastic) untalented idol before a talented idol that I deem as ugly" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hynapia 3,977 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) -Like other people have said, the toxic competitiveness. I like the healthy competition because it's nice to see new groups rising and challenging the established top groups but one thing is that and another the obsession with the sales, charts and views to the point of calling everyone that's not #1 in the charts or that don't sell at least 500k a flop, or dragging/bashing fans of less popular groups as if following a "flop" group was shameful. -The woke culture and cancel culture. Calling out idols when they make a mistake is a thing but calling everyone racist/sexist/homophobic for the minimal stuff is too much. Not to mention the whole "CA" thing simply for wearing an outfit/item/whatever of other culture. I don't see the problem as long they're not mocking or offending said culture and it doesn't warrant bullying an idol for that. -GG stans thinking that constantly bashing BGs and BG stans for existing is "feminist". It's okay if they prefer stanning ggs only but can they leave bgs and their stans alone for a freaking minute? It's becoming nasty. -The double standard of "it's not okay to assume idols' sexuality" when that can be applied to fans who think that all idols are straight too. -The excessive lookism, especially with male idols. I see a lot of people (especially edgy gg stans) in stan twitter dragging groups that (according to them) aren't "visual groups" when looks are subjective anyway. Edited December 26, 2020 by hynapia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doki-doki 21,660 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Success stans are so annoying, they live vicariously through their faves achievements and act like it’s their own..sad 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rananicolee 10,266 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 The fans. They judge you for who you like, judge you for what you don’t like, just the judgement. The companies. The fact that older groups are deemed too old to perform according to younger group fans. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hynapia 3,977 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, rananicolee said: The fans. They judge you for who you like, judge you for what you don’t like, just the judgement. The companies. The fact that older groups are deemed too old to perform according to younger group fans. This is so true. I always find weird how kpop fans call idols over 25-30 hags when western artists are still performing and releasing hits in their 40s and even 50s. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli London 1,762 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Y'all pretending your fave's music is good. Like just own up to it that's it's trash, but you still love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple00rchid 1,403 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 The constant ranking Fan voting Western media mentioning kpop groups for clout Fans blind faith towards their idols General direction of boy group music nowadays (Everyone sounds about the same, esp 4th gen) Nuest getting nothing under BigHit (yet they lose MAJOR endorsement from NCSOFT due to weverse thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjangyi 603 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 fandoms' obsession with voting and views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elscian 5,139 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Obsession over a narrow visual standard. Specially for the girls, the way they are forced to lose weight by eating almost nothing is so toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Orange 838 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) the obsessive talk about sales, YouTube views, charts. million sales being the must met goal. there’s a difference when exo reached that because no one had done it since 10yrs and it revived the album selling market, and there’s a difference when bts were able to sell pass that because it was a first. nowadays it’s expected and if you don’t reach it automatically it’s called a flop. like that’s the standard of what is considered successful and it shouldn’t be. it’s draining the impressiveness imo. treating idols like they’re innocent babies. fans forcing themselves to like their faves songs. older groups being considered flops despite still doing extremely well. Edited December 29, 2020 by Blood Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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