[KNETIZEN] STAYC'S MR REMOVED LIVE TODAY [Music Bank] STAYC who got good responses with their live stage today

[Wannabe]

 

It's a live that makes me skeptical they're even rookies

You can hear their breathing and their voice cracks, this isn't AR, it's a real live

 

original post: here

 

1. The entire team's voice ability is jjang jjangㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

 

2. They're freaking good indeed... Kids, what is happening right now.. 

 

3. Wow I always wondered if StayC were doing live because they gave me this impression every time I watched their stages. This just proves is, the comments are all going crazy right nowㅋㅋㅋ  The kids are all talented and pretty, this is definitely a successful debut 

 

4. Wow they're all good... Wow 

 

5. Wow their voice power are all the same level too, they're freaking good, not a single hole in the group 

 

6. They're freaking good, I like them more and more. I need to watch their live video 100 more times

 

7. Wow this is really liveㅋㅋㅋㅋ  Good job 

 

8. First of all, they're likable because they perform live, but on top of that they're so talented!!

I seriously like them so much ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

It's been a long time since I've watched any music shows, and this feels like a breath of fresh air ㅠㅠ

 

9. Sieun is seriously talented, she will be so good once she gains more experience, I'm looking forwardㅋㅋㅋㅋ

 

10. They're too good 

 

12. They're good singers, StayC hit big

 

13. That kid who used to be an actress is seriously so good, the song is so high 

 

14. Sieun isn't even a main vocal? She's so goodㅋㅋㅋ

original post: theqoo

1. They sing well live and I like their expressions on stage

2. Oh, they did well. Seeun is the best. She’s the perfect visual member, but she’s so good at digesting her part

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3. They danced well and sang so well

4. I was surprised when they did better than I expected.. I hope they become more popular in the future

5. Wow the song is high, but the members are all good at singing

6. It’s really hard to find kids with good singing and good looks, but the company is small. How did you get those kids?

7. The members are all pretty, they have no visual holes, they have no dance holes, and they’re good at singing live. I think STAYC will be a big hit

8. Yoon is so pretty but also sings well

9. The members are all pretty and their skills are good too

10. The members are all good at singing live, Sieun is really good

credit knetizen+pannchoa

 

STAN STAYC THE BEST 2020/2021 ROOKIE VISUAL QUEENS

Edited November 30, 2020 by Wannabe

[felidae]

Idk if they qualify and actually can but if they win roty I'd cry in happiness. They're that good.

[mintyfwesh]

48 minutes ago, felidae said:

Idk if they qualify and actually can but if they win roty I'd cry in happiness. They're that good.

they qualify next year

[SmoothCriminal]

I'm starting to stan based on their talent and visuals combined

[skullkid]

they have a second gen flair to them

Edited November 28, 2020 by skullkid

[Wannabe]

1 hour ago, skullkid said:

they have a second gen flair to them

thats why I like them 

[canis lupus]

oh they're good!! great live vocals from idol groups are so rare these days lol

[Elscian]

Why is mr removed still a thing

[Vagus]

ever since gfriend lypsinc accident, i dont really believe idol's live performance lol 

isa and seeun has a nice voice tho 

 

[wonderluust]

They're so likeable. Singing live is so rare these days, even on top of a backtrack. I really love it when they try, they don't even need to sound good, I just appreciate the effort. it's so boring to watch otherwise. 

Like I LOVE mago, I think it deserves everything, but every performance is just the same thing with different outfits .... 

[chuuloveyves]

8 hours ago, Vagus said:

ever since gfriend lypsinc accident, i dont really believe idol's live performance lol 

isa and seeun has a nice voice tho 

 

They sound exactly like studio version

 

[loozzer]

1 hour ago, chuuloveyves said:

They sound exactly like studio version

 

these videos aren't really reliable either. encores are the only thing that i really know for sure are live

[Archer2006]

44 minutes ago, loozzer said:

these videos aren't really reliable either. encores are the only thing that i really know for sure are live

This looks like it might have been from a radio(?) show or a live stream. If that’s the case then it’s real audio. It’s super hard to manipulate live audio. The most you could do would be to “ride the gain” (meaning adjust the sound levels to match the speakers/singers volume). For example if the speaker gets to loud, you turn their mic volume down. If they are speaking too softly the you turn the mic up.  Now if this was a recorded performance, meaning post editing and fine tuning, then you could make a case for post-processing or edited vocals. Even then it would be a small one because they are clearly singing over a very tiny backtrack. 

[Vagus]

5 hours ago, chuuloveyves said:

They sound exactly like studio version

 

thats why its sus lol

[cherryhoe]

6 hours ago, chuuloveyves said:

They sound exactly like studio version

 

they're so good!

4 hours ago, Archer2006 said:

This looks like it might have been from a radio(?) show or a live stream. If that’s the case then it’s real audio. It’s super hard to manipulate live audio. The most you could do would be to “ride the gain” (meaning adjust the sound levels to match the speakers/singers volume). For example if the speaker gets to loud, you turn their mic volume down. If they are speaking too softly the you turn the mic up.  Now if this was a recorded performance, meaning post editing and fine tuning, then you could make a case for post-processing or edited vocals. Even then it would be a small one because they are clearly singing over a very tiny backtrack. 

yes they're 100% singing live wow

 

[alcyone]

they're like APink. I love them

[Elscian]

9 hours ago, chuuloveyves said:

They sound exactly like studio version

 

 

20 hours ago, canis lupus said:

oh they're good!! great live vocals from idol groups are so rare these days lol

9:42 is how an actual live stage sounds like. It's not possible to sound as stable as stayc does during their hip/chest thrust moves.  Specially bc they are dancing much harder than jyp is. They are either singing over a loud backtrack or its record with the breathing and pauses.

 

[mintyfwesh]

1 hour ago, alcyone said:

they're like APink. I love them

Apink Chorong says she can't help but be interested in them and watches their music show performances

[MinnieMax]

Best 2020 debut in my opinion. Very talented girls! 

[wonderluust]

15 hours ago, StanSatan said:

 

9:42 is how an actual live stage sounds like. It's not possible to sound as stable as stayc does during their hip/chest thrust moves.  Specially bc they are dancing much harder than jyp is. They are either singing over a loud backtrack or its record with the breathing and pauses.

 

you gotta just listen to more live stages to develop an ear for this kind of thing. They're singing on top of a back track, but thats why mr's exist to tease the tracks apart. Of course that's pointless if they've just laid a prerecorded "live" track on top but I think most likely it's not the case here. It's not impossible to sound stable while hip thrusting, it depends on the skill of the singer so it helps to know what they're usually capable of. Listening to the mr, their vocals sound pretty reflective of their dancing. The 2 main vocals esp the girl with the straight bangs was a little sus ngl but after listening to the radio perf (which imo is live + minor vocal processing which is very common) and how effortless that was, I'm leaning towards live

 

Edited November 29, 2020 by wonderluust

[Elscian]

1 hour ago, wonderluust said:

you gotta just listen to more live stages to develop an ear for this kind of thing. They're singing on top of a back track, but thats why mr's exist to tease the tracks apart. Of course that's pointless if they've just laid a prerecorded "live" track on top but I think most likely it's not the case here. It's not impossible to sound stable while hip thrusting, it depends on the skill of the singer so it helps to know what they're usually capable of. Listening to the mr, their vocals sound pretty reflective of their dancing. The 2 main vocals esp the girl with the straight bangs was a little sus ngl but after listening to the radio perf (which imo is live + minor vocal processing which is very common) and how effortless that was, I'm leaning towards live

 

There are numerous videos available explaining hip thrusts and why mr removed videos are fake.  And I pretty much said they must be singing on top of a loud backtrack.  Bc while it's not impossible to sing during thrusts,  it's not possible to sing that stable. Ive done plenty of research on this area, and their vocals are not at all reflective of their dancing.  The minimal breathing sounds exactly like pre recorded LAR.

While stayc are prolly really good singers, we shouldn't be holding impossible and unreal standards in these type of performances.  Its almost like people no longer know what actual live is supposed to sound like. 

[loozzer]

24 minutes ago, StanSatan said:

There are numerous videos available explaining hip thrusts and why mr removed videos are fake.  And I pretty much said they must be singing on top of a loud backtrack.  Bc while it's not impossible to sing during thrusts,  it's not possible to sing that stable. Ive done plenty of research on this area, and their vocals are not at all reflective of their dancing.  The minimal breathing sounds exactly like pre recorded LAR.

While stayc are prolly really good singers, we shouldn't be holding impossible and unreal standards in these type of performances.  Its almost like people no longer know what actual live is supposed to sound like. 

as long as kpop exists fans will continue to claim that their favs are singing live but all other groups are faking it...it's a tale as old as time. 

[wonderluust]

2 hours ago, StanSatan said:

There are numerous videos available explaining hip thrusts and why mr removed videos are fake.  And I pretty much said they must be singing on top of a loud backtrack.  Bc while it's not impossible to sing during thrusts,  it's not possible to sing that stable. Ive done plenty of research on this area, and their vocals are not at all reflective of their dancing.  The minimal breathing sounds exactly like pre recorded LAR.

While stayc are prolly really good singers, we shouldn't be holding impossible and unreal standards in these type of performances.  Its almost like people no longer know what actual live is supposed to sound like. 

ok the fact that you needed that video and to do "research" to find out prerecorded vocals is a thing, tells me you don't have an ear for this lol. Like you said, people these days are so used to prerecorded vocals they don't know what actual live is supposed to sound like. 

I just want to let you know that all MR does is separate the layers of the track, and that's all it claims to do. It's not "fake", it's actually very useful bc it gives you a clear version of the live vocals in question, without the studio backing track muddying the waters. People who can't tell if this is live or prerecorded, is another issue.

The MR removed version is either live or not live, the studio back track is part of the MR that is removed. Like I feel like you lack even basic understanding of what MR removed is. I don't know why you would say that they're singing to loud backtrack, after saying that there's no way the audio in the MR video is them actually singing live. If you think what we're hearing in the MR video isn't live, then there's NO live singing involved, you know that right??? Singing to back track is completely different from prerecorded live vocals .... lmao

Anyway, I have no horse in this race lol. They're not my "favs", I don't even know a single name. But I am a live singing enthusiast, and I think it's important to give credit where credit is due. It's annoying when fans brag about live singing that is clearly prerecorded. But you've totally gone off the opposite deep end in thinking that everything is fake unless it sounds like a breathless mess. Like I said, you need to develop an ear for this, it's not black and white. Try listening to some 2nd gen or early 3rd gen lives when prerecording wasn't so widespread. 

I'm not 100% sure this is live, but I think it's much more likely than not. There's a big difference between something like this and something like aespa's MR. It's good to take everything with a grain of salt, but this edgelord crap is not a good look 

[seokii]

On 11/28/2020 at 3:41 PM, Archer2006 said:

This looks like it might have been from a radio(?) show or a live stream. If that’s the case then it’s real audio. It’s super hard to manipulate live audio. The most you could do would be to “ride the gain” (meaning adjust the sound levels to match the speakers/singers volume). For example if the speaker gets to loud, you turn their mic volume down. If they are speaking too softly the you turn the mic up.  Now if this was a recorded performance, meaning post editing and fine tuning, then you could make a case for post-processing or edited vocals. Even then it would be a small one because they are clearly singing over a very tiny backtrack. 

You ABSOLUTELY can manipulate live audio.

This user has a couple videos on the subject with a lot of examples.

[seokii]

They are either fantastic singers or they used really, really convincing pre-recorded vocals

I would love to believe that it's real, but truthfully it's not at all implausible that companies are simply realizing that pre-recorded vocals are way more convincing if you make the idols dance during the recording (you can absolutely hear them breathing from movement, even it's not from the performance we're seeing)

Either way it's an awesome performance and Stayc is still killing it especially for a rookie group