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These were the fans that were saying and agreeing with Drake when he said that "awards don't matter and if people are listening to your music you're winning" when BTS were only invited to the Grammy's and they were the ones who are saying the Grammy's don't even really matter, but now that they're nominated they're acting like its the biggest thing? I don't get it.

Either way I hope they win. But I don't get army.

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Human nature.

If you don't get what you expect, you relativize to limit the disappointment.

But not getting what you want once doesn't mean you can't celebrate once you achieve it. And we all are aware about how important this nomination is for BTS, so yeah, it's the biggest thing for us at the moment, cause it's the biggest thing for them. And what makes them happy surely affects us too.

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This is thread is unnecessary and lowkey passive aggressive. Some people love ruining the mood anytime it's BTS making major moves lol XD

 

Anyways...BTS themselves have talked about the Grammys multiple times. A Grammy is huge for any artist. But for so long there have been barriers, therefor many Armys of course are going to look on the brighter side. Previous years when BTS were not picked Drake's speech was uplifting and relatable. At the end of the day, we're fans of BTS. We support them and happy when they're happy.

 

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Grammy IS the biggest award there is in that industry + BTS themselves talked about their dream to get one/perform there, did you expect their fans to turn their noses up at this nomination? it's historical for SK too.

and also yes, in the great scheme of things the audience, the listeners is what matters and not recognition from the industry with all its strange politics and what not. but it is not exactly a hardship to have both lol

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Did you see BTS reaction? Do you see how happy they are? That's why we are celebrating!! 

It's not the GOTCHA!!! moment you think it is. This need to villainize everything ARMY does is getting old. 

 

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1 minute ago, Stepkdramafan226 said:

Did you see BTS reaction? Do you see how happy they are? That's why we are celebrating!! 

It's not the GOTCHA!!! moment you think it is. This need to villainize everything ARMY does is getting old. 

 

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Villainize? That's a stretch. I just I don't get Army. that's it.

 

34 minutes ago, satoori said:

 

This is thread is unnecessary and lowkey passive aggressive. Some people love ruining the mood anytime it's BTS making major moves lol XD

 

Anyways...BTS themselves have talked about the Grammys multiple times. A Grammy is huge for any artist. But for so long there have been barriers, therefor many Armys of course are going to look on the brighter side. Previous years when BTS were not picked Drake's speech was uplifting and relatable. At the end of the day, we're fans of BTS. We support them and happy when they're happy.

 

How is it passive aggressive? I just said I don't get army? 

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You could say the same for metal fans as well. They say "fuck the grammys" but with Power Trip's nomination for best metal performance they're celebrating. Korn, Slipknot, Body Count and other metal bands have been nominated and celebrated for being nominated and they say "fuck the grammys" in the same breath.

Fans like to see their genre of choice and favorite artist celebrated is all. They can say they hate the grammys and celebrate if their fave achieves something.

 

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Stanning makes people abnormally hypocritical. It’s rarely solely about values and principles, and primarily about making the faves look good, that other stuff is more of a bonus, an afterthought, or a means to an end. I think that theory manifests in ways we haven’t seen before in the ARMY fandom. There many other examples, outside ARMY fandom too, but their quirks just magnified because eyes are always on them. And because a lot of us are envious, to be honest. As much as I have argued with them over the years, it has made me reflect on my own stanning and stan culture as a whole. I do think BTS unique position in the industry has created a unique type of stan. We look at them like, “whoa, we’re not perfect but we’re not THAT bad.” But, is that really true? I think we’re just different. 

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3 minutes ago, Thatoneuser said:

Villainize? That's a stretch. I just I don't get Army. that's it.

Again, ARMY mostly care about BTS. There is no way we wont be excited because BTS achieved their goal. Its been their biggest goal so of course its a big thing for us to celebrate.  So I don't get what you don't get? 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Thatoneuser said:

No seriously, tell me. How is it passive aggressive? 

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5 minutes ago, marin karin said:

...There many other examples, outside ARMY fandom too, but their quirks just magnified because eyes are always on them. And because a lot of us are envious, to be honest...

exactly.

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But isn't that basically every fandom tho? They're always saying charts/sales/awards don't matter that much "as long you enjoy the music" but at the end everyone loves their faves being successful and reaching their goals.

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13 hours ago, Stepkdramafan226 said:

Again, ARMY mostly care about BTS. There is no way we wont be excited because BTS achieved their goal. Its been their biggest goal so of course its a big thing for us to celebrate.  So I don't get what you don't get? 

 

 

So if its their BIGGEST GOAL and BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENT then why do army's say the Grammys don't matter and is irrelevant before the nomination? you are invalidating your own point there.

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33 minutes ago, nr123 said:

So if its their BIGGEST GOAL and BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENT then why do army's say the Grammys don't matter and is irrelevant before the nomination? you are invalidating your own point there.

Basic human feelings?

I don't get why it's so hard to understand because it's ARMYs acting this way, when it's one of the most primitive way to cope humans have always used.

If someone desires something that they perceive out of reach, they will diminish their meaning in order to cope, to not feel too hurt from not achieving it, to not feel too disappointed when the results come.

ARMYs have been through the disappointment of not getting that nomination last year already, when we through we had the possibility to get it. To relativize, we related to people's speech diminishing the importance of getting that nomination, cause we were disappointed for them, cause we know how much they desired this nomination. And if they want something that means a lot to them, we want to give it to them. That's how fandom support works.

 

Many ARMYs, including myself, don't give a damn about the GRAMMYs. I'm not American, and I've never been involved much in music before apart from listening to artists I like, so I never cared about the GRAMMYs themselves. But we care about our faves getting that nomination that is so important to them. And even if we don't care about the nomination personally, we care about them achieving their goals.

 

I truly don't get how people are acting like ARMYs are acting in some odd ways when they are acting like basic human beings.

Before being an ARMY, each fan is simply a person, a human, with their own way to cope, their own way to deal with expectations. The ARMYs everyone is talking about in this thread is also just a part of the fandom, that coped with the lack of nomination last year this way. While other ARMYs kept their expectations up cause they cope with other ways, and other ARMYs simply didn't think much about the situation, etc.

 

It works with ARMYs at the moment, but it works with any other fandom in any other situation, y'all tend to forget that fans are people to start with.

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19 minutes ago, Koya said:

Basic human feelings?

I don't get why it's so hard to understand because it's ARMYs acting this way, when it's one of the most primitive way to cope humans have always used.

If someone desires something that they perceive out of reach, they will diminish their meaning in order to cope, to not feel too hurt from not achieving it, to not feel too disappointed when the results come.

ARMYs have been through the disappointment of not getting that nomination last year already, when we through we had the possibility to get it. To relativize, we related to people's speech diminishing the importance of getting that nomination, cause we were disappointed for them, cause we know how much they desired this nomination. And if they want something that means a lot to them, we want to give it to them. That's how fandom support works.

 

Many ARMYs, including myself, don't give a damn about the GRAMMYs. I'm not American, and I've never been involved much in music before apart from listening to artists I like, so I never cared about the GRAMMYs themselves. But we care about our faves getting that nomination that is so important to them. And even if we don't care about the nomination personally, we care about them achieving their goals.

 

I truly don't get how people are acting like ARMYs are acting in some odd ways when they are acting like basic human beings.

Before being an ARMY, each fan is simply a person, a human, with their own way to cope, their own way to deal with expectations. The ARMYs everyone is talking about in this thread is also just a part of the fandom, that coped with the lack of nomination last year this way. While other ARMYs kept their expectations up cause they cope with other ways, and other ARMYs simply didn't think much about the situation, etc.

 

It works with ARMYs at the moment, but it works with any other fandom in any other situation, y'all tend to forget that fans are people to start with.

Not to mention that literally every single fandom does that. I've seen many fandoms being like: "awards are not that important" "who cares about charts? i'm only here for the music" but when their faves achieve something big they celebrate it. Idg why it's suddenly a problem when armys do it tbh. Dragging armys for absolutely anything is getting old.

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The same concept as how every year fandom been crying, cancelling award shows, saying that charts are irrelevant, calling the hotline for their verification of the awards, this and that group deserve better because their song were covered by supposedly everyone when their faves doesn't win any of the main daesangs but once they get any of the main awards from let say the AAA, suddenly award shows are relevant again. At the end of the day, fan are just happy that their artists are awarded for their hardwork. 

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Literally every fandom does it lmao

“charts and awards don’t matter!” But when their faves do well they celebrate it anyways

I personally don’t care about awards/charting/nominations because they don’t matter to me, I like what I like regardless of these things. But if my favorite group cares about them and is happy to receive these things, I will be happy for them and hype them up lol

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