teaser-k NCT 2020 YEARPARTY

[neozone]

NCT 2020 YEARPARTY

Edited September 22, 2020 by d7thsense

[Iljin Oppa]

 

[Thatoneuser]

There are too many of them for me. I'm sorry the cut off was at 21 for me. Even so that's too much. 

[pluto]

Powerful

[monraine]

new members? wow

i hate that they retouch the faces so much in mv's.. sm didn't do that as much in their mv's until recently and i really hate it

[Guest]

Sungchans visuals are crazy

[MinnieMax]

That's like a whole parliament 
Would all of them be in 1 MV? 
Wonder where SM is going with all this strategy. Trying to unite the fanbase maybe?
Interesting

[hynapia]

This is so high budget and futuristic. It looks like a high brand mobile commercial.

The 2 new members are really good looking.

3 hours ago, Iljin Oppa said:

 

lmao as if NCT didn't sell 1M of albums by themselves or didn't make money with tours and concerts.

Edited September 22, 2020 by hynapia

[love]

3 hours ago, MinnieMax said:

That's like a whole parliament 
Would all of them be in 1 MV? 
Wonder where SM is going with all this strategy. Trying to unite the fanbase maybe?
Interesting

this is probably the 2020 equivalent of the nct 2018 yearbook...a chance to show off new members as well as unite the different units for one shoot

it's possible we could get an ot23 song/mv (like black on black) but i guess we'll have to see

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THEY LOOK SO GOOD OMG

[eli]

they look amazing im just so fucking EXCITED

6 hours ago, Iljin Oppa said:

 

[hynapia]

3 hours ago, eli said:

they look amazing im just so fucking EXCITED

The way 127 alone makes nearly 40% of sales for SM but gg stans are always salty. Like yes, RV is super successful but NCT doesn't need their money at all.

[eli]

1 minute ago, hynapia said:

The way 127 alone makes nearly 40% of sales for SM but gg stans are always salty. Like yes, RV is super successful but NCT doesn't need their money at all.

well there cant be nct threads without ppl bringing up other sm groups, doesnt matter if its about an actual group or a non-existent group that has yet to debut

[hynapia]

8 minutes ago, eli said:

well there cant be nct threads without ppl bringing up other sm groups, doesnt matter if its about an actual group or a non-existent group that has yet to debut

i find weird that people come for them precisely for the budget thing when if anything, physical sales AND especially tours/concerts/merchandising bring much more money than digitals and NCT does the best right now in SM in those areas so they don't have the need of using other SM groups money

[eli]

55 minutes ago, hynapia said:

i find weird that people come for them precisely for the budget thing when if anything, physical sales AND especially tours/concerts/merchandising bring much more money than digitals and NCT does the best right now in SM in those areas so they don't have the need of using other SM groups money

its because they just parrot whatever 0-iq twitter says without looking into the numbers themselves

[Iljin Oppa]

5 hours ago, eli said:

they look amazing im just so fucking EXCITED

 

1 hour ago, hynapia said:

The way 127 alone makes nearly 40% of sales for SM but gg stans are always salty. Like yes, RV is super successful but NCT doesn't need their money at all.

 

Edited September 22, 2020 by Iljin Oppa

[hynapia]

6 minutes ago, Iljin Oppa said:

 

 

And? That doesn't mean NCT doesn't earn their OWN money with sales/tours/concerts/merchandising and need other SM artists' money.

[Iljin Oppa]

1 hour ago, hynapia said:

And? That doesn't mean NCT doesn't earn their OWN money with sales/tours/concerts/merchandising and need other SM artists' money.

SM spends the most on NCT yet they make the least revenue as shown in the graphs. 

They also make terrible profits:

NCT127
NEO CITY TOUR (9 cities/10 shows)
City National Civic, San Jose: 5,812 (100%) (2 shows)
Microsoft Theater, Los Angeles: 6,534 (96%)
Rosemont Theatre, Rosemont: 4,199 (100%)
Smart Centre, Sugar Land: 6,294 (100%)
Prudential Center, Newark: 5,622 (100%)
Coca-Cola Roxy, Atlanta: 3,197 (100%)
Watsco Center, Miami: 5,206 (100%)
The Theater, Sugar Land: 6,066 (100%)
Comerica Theater, Phoenix: 4,725 (100%)

Total gross: $6,791,395
Average gross: $679,139
Total attendance: 47,655
Average attendance/concert: 04,766

vs

RED VELVET
REDMARE TOUR (5 cities/6 shows)
Civic Auditorium, Pasadena: 5,986 (100%) (2 shows)
The Theatre, Dallas: 3,509 (96%)
NJPAC, Newark: 2,780 (100%)
The Filmore, Miami: 2,148 (100%)
Chicago Theatre, Chicago: 3,453 (100%)

Total gross: $2,594,120
Average gross: $432,353
Total attendance: 17,876
Average attendance/concert: 02,979명

 

Anyways, I obviously don't actually think NCT isn't turning a profit but SM's been investing more in this stupid NCT48 system for way longer than they have had to with any of their other groups for them to do well. And I'm mainly talking about 127 and these NCT *Year* projects. fyi I stan NCT Dream who probably make more net profits than the other NCT groups. 

[hynapia]

1 minute ago, Iljin Oppa said:

SM spends the most on NCT yet they make the least revenue as shown in the graphs. 

They also make terrible profits:

NCT127
NEO CITY TOUR (9 cities/10 shows)
City National Civic, San Jose: 5,812 (100%) (2 shows)
Microsoft Theater, Los Angeles: 6,534 (96%)
Rosemont Theatre, Rosemont: 4,199 (100%)
Smart Centre, Sugar Land: 6,294 (100%)
Prudential Center, Newark: 5,622 (100%)
Coca-Cola Roxy, Atlanta: 3,197 (100%)
Watsco Center, Miami: 5,206 (100%)
The Theater, Sugar Land: 6,066 (100%)
Comerica Theater, Phoenix: 4,725 (100%)

Total gross: $6,791,395
Average gross: $679,139
Total attendance: 47,655
Average attendance/concert: 04,766

vs

RED VELVET
REDMARE TOUR (5 cities/6 shows)
Civic Auditorium, Pasadena: 5,986 (100%) (2 shows)
The Theatre, Dallas: 3,509 (96%)
NJPAC, Newark: 2,780 (100%)
The Filmore, Miami: 2,148 (100%)
Chicago Theatre, Chicago: 3,453 (100%)

Total gross: $2,594,120
Average gross: $432,353
Total attendance: 17,876
Average attendance/concert: 02,979명

 

Anyways, I obviously don't actually think NCT isn't turning a profit but SM's been investing more in this stupid NCT48 system for way longer than they have had to with any of their other groups for them to do well. And I'm mainly talking about 127 and these NCT *Year* projects. fyi I stan NCT Dream who probably make more net profits than the other NCT groups. 

According to that NCT had both more total and more average gross than RV, also 100% of attendance in majority of the shows tho? I don't get your point. They also have big physical sales and precisely 127 is the subunit that has sold nearly 1M with a single album and the only that had a breakout song still charting in the 500s of melon after 6 months, so comparatively they're doing better than Dream. Just say you're bitter about them and go, but they are doing fairly well by themselves to need anyone's money.

[Iljin Oppa]

26 minutes ago, hynapia said:

According to that NCT had both more total and more average gross than RV, also 100% of attendance in majority of the shows tho? I don't get your point. They also have big physical sales and precisely 127 is the subunit that has sold nearly 1M with a single album and the only that had a breakout song still charting in the 500s of melon after 6 months, so comparatively they're doing better than Dream. Just say you're bitter about them and go, but they are doing fairly well by themselves to need anyone's money.

RV made more per person and had 3/4 of 127's attendance despite having half the number of shows. 

LMAO 127 hit nearly 1 million with a full album with three versions whereas Dream sold almost as much with a mini with just 2 versions. 

Plus SM is obviously pushing stores to order 127 albums more since Dream actually sold more than them on Hanteo:

 

Plus Dream sold just as much with their Japanese album (no original singles and no Japanese versions of their songs) as 127 with their Japanese full album and mini despite 127 actually having original Japanese songs and Japanese versions of their songs.

If you want to talk about digital charting, Reload is literally the only NCT song to hit #1 on Melon real time. Weren't you the one who made such a huge deal about the Melon real time chart lmao.

Edited September 23, 2020 by Iljin Oppa

[hynapia]

6 minutes ago, Iljin Oppa said:

RV made more per person and had 3/4 of 127's attendance despite having half the number of shows. 

LMAO 127 hit nearly 1 million with a full album with three versions whereas Dream sold almost as much with a mini with just 2 versions. 

Plus SM is obviously pushing stores to order 127 albums more since Dream actually sold more than them on Hanteo:

 

Plus Dream sold just as much with their Japanese album (no original singles and no Japanese versions of their songs) as 127 with their Japanese full album and mini despite 127 actually having original Japanese songs and Japanese versions of their songs.

If you want to talk about digital charting, Reload is literally the only NCT song to hit #1 on Melon real time. Weren't you the one who made such a huge deal about the Melon real time chart lmao.

Mini albums and full albums don't really make that much difference tho. If a group has a solid fandom it's gonna sell well regardless if it's a mini or a full. Dream could release a full album with 3 versions too and it's not guaranteed that they'll reach the same numbers so that doesn't prove anything.

Also hitting #1 in real time =/= longevity. Ridin is out of the top 1000 on melon while Kick it is still charting top 500. Both units are doing well, and my original point anyway was that NCT doesn't need to "waste" RV money because they make enough by their own.

[eli]

8 hours ago, Iljin Oppa said:

 

 

you seem to be thinking im trying to argue with u about if red velvet sells more than nct or not, and im not. i dont care about who does better theyre both great groups and i want them to do well. all im showing you is that nct make their own money. which you know bc ur in here talking ab dream sales being better than 127.. maybe u should just get rid of ur 127 hate boner, stop being salty about dream and enjoy the comeback theyre working hard on