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Do you consider these groups Kpop?  

42 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you consider these groups Kpop?

    • Yes
      3
    • No (they're c-pop, j-pop, etc.)
      36
    • Maybe
      1
    • I don't know
      2
  2. 2. In your opinion, What makes a group K-pop?

    • Korean members (majority)
      16
    • Sing in Korean
      30
    • Produced by a Korean company
      20
    • Promotes in Korea (active in Korea)
      30
    • Other
      2
  3. 3. As foreign hallyu groups, should the korean public's opinions matter to K-entertainment companies?

    • yes
      13
    • no
      14
    • maybe
      7
    • i don't know
      8


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'Foreign Hallyu' groups NiziU and WayV face potential political dilemma alongside their rapid growth

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Article: '3rd Hallyu wave' NiziU and WayV face an identity dilemma

Source: No Cut News via Naver

Article talks about how 'new wave' groups like NiziU and WayV are growing super fast in their home countries but facing cold sentiment in Korea due to their unclear identities, which is being regarded as a 'ticking time bomb' once histories and societal issues begin to overlap... like controversies over the support of Japanese businesses with war crime history, support of Hong Kong police, etc. "A soft export is the next step but agencies need to be more responsible for the next step in Hallyu".

1. [+143, -12] These groups having personal family matters or private lives is not our business but I think we've crossed the line in letting the descendants of war criminals debut in our country.

2. [+89, -9] I have an uneasy feeling that these decisions will be what makes K-Pop fail in 10 years

3. [+64, -1] I just don't get why Lee Soo Man is always training Chinese groups after all the backstabbing he's suffered from them..

4. [+70, -21] I don't think Park Jin Young is Korean anymore. He's Pro-Japanese.

5. [+33, -1] Park Jin Young-ssi, this is no K-Pop!!! This is as if a Chinese spy came working in Samsung and stole all of the technique to leak to China!! Foreigners will not think of NiziU as K-Pop but J-Pop and we'll no longer be able to differentiate between the two genres anymore because they'll look the same to them. K-Pop will then get boring. I personally find Park Jin Young to be no different than a traitor to this country for this.

6. [+23, -1] Jin Young-ah, can you please just send yourself to Japan instead of bringing your Japanese group over here to make money?

7. [+21, -2] I never in my life imagined I'd see a K-Pop group from a war criminal company

8. [+18, -0] Uh, since when were these groups K-Pop? How are they K-Pop idols at all? ㅋㅋ

9. [+14, -1] What people need to realize is that K-Pop didn't get big because it's special or amazing at anything, it's because our agencies had such low standards. Once China and Japan copy our skills and invest their own money in the industry, K-Pop's market share is going to get a lot smaller.

10. [+13, -0] Why does Park Jin Young keep calling NiziU 'our country's group'? Why are they our country's group? They're a Japanese group that you created to make your own company money.

11. [+11, -1] Seeing as how they included a member who's a descendant of a company with war crimes, it's clear that NiziU has thrown away the Korean market and intend to stay in Japan. I was so surprised to hear that they had such a descendant in the group at all.

12. [+5, -0] I just don't understand NiziU. No one is going to consider that group a part of Hallyu.

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Niziu shouldnt promote in korean at all. They've gotten stable footing in japan and the members.. theyre all japanese?? it just doesnt make sense for them to keep releasing korean versions. just push them as a jpop group and avoid this issue.

idk anyhting about wayv though.

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I don't consider any of these groups K-pop. Their primary country that they promote in isn't Korea. It's basically like when K-pop groups promote in other countries. They might do some releases in other countries and sing in that language, but their home base and main target audience is Korea.

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To me being produced by a Korean company or having "kpop style" doesn't make a group kpop if they don't sing in Korean (literal meaning of "kpop" = korean pop) and don't promote in Korea. I mean, Yuehua (Everglow's company) is Chinese but they aren't considered a cpop group because they sing in Korean and promote in Korea, not in China.

Having mostly Korean members is not strictly necessary but after all kpop (k-entertainment in general) helps to spread korean culture and trends so it's more normal that korean people themselves are the ones spreading and representing it.

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11. [+11, -1] Seeing as how they included a member who's a descendant of a company with war crimes, it's clear that NiziU has thrown away the Korean market and intend to stay in Japan. I was so surprised to hear that they had such a descendant in the group at all.

Uh what? I don't know what member is being talked about here but what does she have to do with a company that she isn't even part of?

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NiziU main focus will be in Japan. Yes they released a Korean version but they didn't even promote it the same as the main version of the song even Boystory does some stuff in Korea as well.

Some Koreans sure are pressed about them for them for no reason. 

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22 hours ago, rowanokke said:

Niziu shouldnt promote in korean at all. They've gotten stable footing in japan and the members.. theyre all japanese?? it just doesnt make sense for them to keep releasing korean versions. just push them as a jpop group and avoid this issue.

idk anyhting about wayv though.


Than Kpop groups don’t need to be promoting anywhere outside of Korea either, if they wanna be like that

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Why do people keep translating these irrelevant site posts as if it represents what Koreans in general think? The top comment got like 100 likes

And even if it was relevant, these groups aren’t made for Korea, therefore their inputs are irrelevant

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3 hours ago, Lubbin said:

Why do people keep translating these irrelevant site posts as if it represents what Koreans in general think? The top comment got like 100 likes

And even if it was relevant, these groups aren’t made for Korea, therefore their inputs are irrelevant

?No one said these posts represent ALL of Korea.

Similar to watching a youtube video and seeing all the comments in another language and wanting to know what people are saying. It's Korean pop, of course some ifans are curious about what's being discussed on Korean forums. 

Koreans do the same when they translate ifans comments on twitter and etc. and talk about them...

 

 

 

 

 

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