[Netizenbuzz] Police investigations begin on Minah and AOA's bullying scandal

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Article: [Exclusive] Kwon Minah's 'bullied by AOA suspicions' police begin internal investigations

Source: Joongang Ilbo via Naver

1. [+461, -25] Minah, there are a lot of people who genuinely support you. It may be difficult now but brighter days will come. Fighting!!!

2. [+299, -9] What in the world could they have said to her that someone who attempted suicide and publicly outed them is now saying she realizes FNC's truth and will reflect? ㅋㅋㅋ Did they threaten her to hell and back

3. [+233, -13] She attempted to harm herself again... she seems to be in a condition where it will be difficult for her to live a normal life. I don't get how you can bully someone to this point. I feel so bad for her... Jimin and the rest of the members are all accomplices. Investigate this thoroughly and make sure they don't get to be on TV again.

4. [+200, -32] Please prosecute Shin Jimin, Han Sung Ho, and Kim Seolhyun

5. [+88, -5] I'm a fan as well and agree that this needs a thorough investigation

6. [+49, -4] Please don't die, you must live so that you can pay back the pain they've caused you for the rest of their lives. Don't die.

7. [+43, -9] Seolhyun and Jimin are the attackers

8. [+34, -2] Kwon Minah-ssi, find strength and fight this head on. If you just let this get buried, you might regret it in 10 years. Cover your heart in steel and tell the truth. Tell them exactly how you felt when all of this was happening, expose it all. You did nothing wrong. You are in the condition you are in because of their bullying. What could scare you more? Protect yourself.

9. [+40, -10] If it's getting this bad, shouldn't Seolhyun be taken off of her drama? She's starring with a lot of other famous stars and she's going to taint the drama with this. Her acting's terrible as it is... Seolhyun-ssi, step down~

 

10. [+31, -2] She's doing the right thing. How sickening must it have felt to see them laughing and acting fake on variety shows. And us viewers didn't even know how fake they were, just laughed and supported them along. Let investigations get to the bottom of this and make sure their careers can never come back

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[Trashie]

oh good news hope the investigations go well

Edited August 13, 2020 by Trashie

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

I'm confused, I thought Mina and her agency rejected the investigations? 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1418903wpp/former-aoa-member-minas-agency-says-she-doesnt-want-a-police-investigation

 

Like it was a fan that wanted to launch the investigations, but Mina did not want to partake in it. This article is incredibly misleading. 

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by A Hamster Named Loneliness

[Mccuish]

I have a hard time trust Korean police after that BS with the burning sun scandal. They have allowed Seungri to go free even when there was a lot of evidence against him.

[Neopoli]

What are they investigating? Abuse there isn't illegal, is this about the lack of pay/them potentially breaking the law while she was a trainee?

[SLY]

Just now, Neopoli said:

Abuse there isn't illegal, is this about the lack of pay/them potentially breaking the law while she was a trainee?

I don't know Korean law but usually emotional distress/psychological damage is punishable by the law if the victim is diagnosed by a psychiatrist with a psychological disorder by which the front runner is depression. Mina also mentioned something abot FNC and Jimin not compensating her (which I assume is for her medications).

[Neopoli]

1 minute ago, Leaping SLY said:

I don't know Korean law but usually emotional distress/psychological damage is punishable by the law if the victim is diagnosed by a psychiatrist with a psychological disorder by which the front runner is depression. Mina also mentioned something abot FNC and Jimin not compensating her (which I assume is for her medications).

That would only be done via lawsuit, not criminal investigation. Abuse laws are so utterly lax they might as well not exist there. Even less for harassment, which would still fall under lawsuit for damages and compensation, again not criminal. Only thing I can think of is when she brought up being an illegal trainee, that would peak the cop's interests

Although soompi said Mina rejected the investigation

[SLY]

2 minutes ago, Neopoli said:

That would only be done via lawsuit, not criminal investigation. Abuse laws are so utterly lax they might as well not exist there. Even less for harassment, which would still fall under lawsuit for damages and compensation, again not criminal. Only thing I can think of is when she brought up being an illegal trainee, that would peak the cop's interests

Although soompi said Mina rejected the investigation

I'm not familiar with their justice system but my take is that since the issue has escalated into a controversy of great interest, they decided to investigate. If my memory serves me correctly, the police can investigate despite the victim not pressing charges not because of that certain case but if they see an opening for a potential bigger problem which in this context is the bullying and mistreatment of FNC's artists/trainees. Might be irrelevant but one point in time Jimin was an adult while Mina's still a minor during the bullying too.

Edit: I read the source article and apparently the investigation is uncertain whether to continue or not after Mina's side declined in order for this issue to not get bigger. However, the officer in charge is yet to speak with Kwon Mina personally- only through her agency.

[Neopoli]

2 minutes ago, Leaping SLY said:

I'm not familiar with their justice system but my take is that since the issue has escalated into a controversy of great interest, they decided to investigate. If my memory serves me correctly, the police can investigate despite the victim not pressing charges not because of that certain case but if they see an opening for a potential bigger problem which in this context is the bullying and mistreatment of FNC's artists/trainees. Might be irrelevant but one point in time Jimin was an adult while Mina's still a minor during the bullying too.

Edit: I read the source article and apparently the investigation is uncertain whether to continue or not after Mina's side declined in order for this issue to not get bigger. However, the officer in charge is yet to speak with Kwon Mina personally- only through her agency.

the only thing they'd have to investigate is any misconduct on fnc's side, nothing they handle on the side of the compensation. that would be a lawyer's job to figure out. also the age gap would be their strongest point as it would fall under child abuse instead

Edited August 13, 2020 by Neopoli

[rananicolee]

14 minutes ago, Neopoli said:

the only thing they'd have to investigate is any misconduct on fnc's side, nothing they handle on the side of the compensation. that would be a lawyer's job to figure out. also the age gap would be their strongest point as it would fall under child abuse instead

I think they can consider all of what FNC did and how Jimin came to her home as repeated harassment. 

[SLY]

16 minutes ago, Neopoli said:

the only thing they'd have to investigate is any misconduct on fnc's side, nothing they handle on the side of the compensation. that would be a lawyer's job to figure out

Yeah, FNC's misconduct. I did not say they're investigating because of the compensation itself, I merely mentioned that to make my point that is they may be investigating because FNC's environment may have been tolerating bullying which in this case caused psychological damage to a victim who was emotionally distressed that she required treatment/medication (hence she asked for compensation).

Well they seem to be not investigating anymore too. I really can only hope that the assailants become human and just give Mina what she deserves so she can move on and be happy...

Edited August 13, 2020 by Leaping SLY

[Elscian]

So who initiated the investigation?

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

43 minutes ago, StanSatan said:

So who initiated the investigation?

A fan. 

Mina refuses to partake in the investigation because she doesn't want the case getting any bigger than it already is. 

 

Edited August 15, 2020 by A Hamster Named Loneliness

[Neopoli]

On 8/13/2020 at 4:08 PM, rananicolee said:

I think they can consider all of what FNC did and how Jimin came to her home as repeated harassment. 

Possibly, but if she allowed them in and didn't say gtfo they can use that against her and get it thrown out. Even in the most developed countries harassment/stalking/etc doesn't take into consideration of duress or anything. It has to be very forceful and violent. Being pressured into it or feeling like you had no choice isn't considered by most laws and it's actually really harmful in a lot of places and why most victims can't get help.

On 8/13/2020 at 4:08 PM, Leaping SLY said:

Yeah, FNC's misconduct. I did not say they're investigating because of the compensation itself, I merely mentioned that to make my point that is they may be investigating because FNC's environment may have been tolerating bullying which in this case caused psychological damage to a victim who was emotionally distressed that she required treatment/medication (hence she asked for compensation).

Well they seem to be not investigating anymore too. I really can only hope that the assailants become human and just give Mina what she deserves so she can move on and be happy...

Ah okay, lots seem to think the bullying part itself can have anything legally done about it, it really can't under current laws. Just misconduct on the business end.

It's also a very stressful and expensive process so I wouldn't blame Mina for backing out myself, the costs for this stuff is crazy. I can't see Jimin compensating but maybe FNC will, maybe.

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

5 hours ago, Neopoli said:

Possibly, but if she allowed them in and didn't say gtfo they can use that against her and get it thrown out. Even in the most developed countries harassment/stalking/etc doesn't take into consideration of duress or anything. It has to be very forceful and violent. Being pressured into it or feeling like you had no choice isn't considered by most laws and it's actually really harmful in a lot of places and why most victims can't get help.

Ah okay, lots seem to think the bullying part itself can have anything legally done about it, it really can't under current laws. Just misconduct on the business end.

It's also a very stressful and expensive process so I wouldn't blame Mina for backing out myself, the costs for this stuff is crazy. I can't see Jimin compensating but maybe FNC will, maybe.

A FAN was the one who initiated the investigations, not Mina herself. Mina never requested an investigation, so there was no backing out since she never asked for one. A fan submitted a request for police to investigate the bullying, and Mina and FNC are refusing to get involved. 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1418903wpp/former-aoa-member-minas-agency-says-she-doesnt-want-a-police-investigation

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.jazminemedia.com/2020/08/why-former-aoa-member-mina-doesnt-want-a-police-investigation-into-jimins-bullying-controversy/amp/

 

 

Edited August 15, 2020 by A Hamster Named Loneliness

[Neopoli]

3 hours ago, A Hamster Named Loneliness said:

A FAN was the one who initiated the investigations, not Mina herself. Mina never requested an investigation, so there was no backing out since she never asked for one. A fan submitted a request for police to investigate the bullying, and Mina and FNC are refusing to get involved. 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1418903wpp/former-aoa-member-minas-agency-says-she-doesnt-want-a-police-investigation

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.jazminemedia.com/2020/08/why-former-aoa-member-mina-doesnt-want-a-police-investigation-into-jimins-bullying-controversy/amp/

 

 

I mentioned that already