Former aoa member mina posts alarming pic on IG

[Neopoli]

16 hours ago, choiyujins said:

It's clearly a bigger problem than just being distressed by the bullying at this point... the self-harm and impulsive posting of these kind of images point to much more serious problems

I hope she gets help before something bad happens

I mean, do you think 10 years of trauma wouldn't have this outcome?

[Danee Danee]

43 minutes ago, Neopoli said:

I mean, do you think 10 years of trauma wouldn't have this outcome?

At this point it seems that her health issues are worse issues then AOA dynamics. There were bad things happening in the group for sure, but lets be honest Mina needs treatment in first place, get better in second place and then look back to talk about issues of the group and past. Cause her story keeps changing based on her current state. 

[Neopoli]

4 minutes ago, Danee Danee said:

At this point it seems that her health issues are worse issues then AOA dynamics. There were bad things happening in the group for sure, but lets be honest Mina needs treatment in first place, get better in second place and then look back to talk about issues of the group and past. Cause her story keeps changing based on her current state. 

Her health issues are this way because of the trauma she endured. This is what happens when you experience trauma for 10 years, 10 years of trauma is no where near easy to deal with and PTSD comes out of that. People seem to not understand how much damage can be done to a person, people aren't born like this. She wasn't like this before, PTSD isn't genetic. She's like this because of her past, this shit has serious repercussions.

[Danee Danee]

1 minute ago, Neopoli said:

Her health issues are this way because of the trauma she endured. This is what happens when you experience trauma for 10 years, 10 years of trauma is no where near easy to deal with and PTSD comes out of that. People seem to not understand how much damage can be done to a person, people aren't born like this. She wasn't like this before, PTSD isn't genetic. She's like this because of her past, this shit has serious repercussions.

People do understand. Everyone is going through their own issues. But lets be honest. When you are unstable to this point, you dont see things clearly (talking from experience). Even the situation around the group and people around her. She may do or say something she will deeply regret later (again talking from experience). And from her posts all the resentment, sadness, hate and all negative emotions just pile. It doesnt go away. Despite people longing for more "tea" from her, she should leave all sns and get treated first. Talk about it later, once she wont feel the urge to post (old or new,doesnt matter) pics of her cutted wrists and end her life. 

[Neopoli]

27 minutes ago, Danee Danee said:

People do understand. Everyone is going through their own issues. But lets be honest. When you are unstable to this point, you dont see things clearly (talking from experience). Even the situation around the group and people around her. She may do or say something she will deeply regret later (again talking from experience). And from her posts all the resentment, sadness, hate and all negative emotions just pile. It doesnt go away. Despite people longing for more "tea" from her, she should leave all sns and get treated first. Talk about it later, once she wont feel the urge to post (old or new,doesnt matter) pics of her cutted wrists and end her life. 

No, some understand. But if you're blaming this behavior on anything other than the trauma she faced, you do not understand the trauma she faced. This isn't shocking, this is expected. People with PTSD and trauma survivors go through this stuff all the time, that's my problem with this. Quit invalidating people with trauma with the notion that it MUST be something else causing them pain, it's telling them what they went through wasn't enough.

https://www.verywellmind.com/ptsd-and-suicide-2797540

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/bullying-suicide-translation-final-a.pdf

Edited August 9, 2020 by Neopoli

[HRH Ayyu]

Another cry for help.

The people saying she needs to get off social media, no one would of known How bad it is for mina still, if she didn't post that. I just hope nothing happens to her.

Edited August 9, 2020 by HRH Ayyu

[Y U A]

I really hope she gets some help from her family and close friends and gets to see a psychiatrist. It's very alarming... I thought, she'd calm down a bit and get better after Jimin's withdrawal from AOA, but no....

Edited August 9, 2020 by NERGETH

[Danee Danee]

2 hours ago, Neopoli said:

No, some understand. But if you're blaming this behavior on anything other than the trauma she faced, you do not understand the trauma she faced. This isn't shocking, this is expected. People with PTSD and trauma survivors go through this stuff all the time, that's my problem with this. Quit invalidating people with trauma with the notion that it MUST be something else causing them pain, it's telling them what they went through wasn't enough.

https://www.verywellmind.com/ptsd-and-suicide-2797540

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/bullying-suicide-translation-final-a.pdf

Nah. You are just trying to twist my point. Im not invalidating anyone. I just said she needs to get treated and get better now and then talk if she still wanted to. 

[HRH Ayyu]

33 minutes ago, NERGETH said:

I really hope she gets some help from her family and close friends and gets to see a psychiatrist. It's very alarming... I thought, she'd calm down a bit and get better after Jimin's withdrawal from AOA, but no....

I think Mina thought, if the members apologized and acknowledge what happened she would be okay and find closer, hence she is still desperately waiting on a sincere apology and trying to reach FNC.. But its years of trauma and depression, its a long road back and i wouldn't be surprised if mina realized even with an apology, everything wont  become better.Especially with her family situation.

[Neopoli]

Just now, Danee Danee said:

Nah. You are just trying to twist my point. Im not invalidating anyone. I just said she needs to get treated and get better now and then talk if she still wanted to. 

Your point when you quoted me continually insinuated that there was something more than just trauma going on, as if they pain she suffered wouldn't lead to this. I'm not acknowledging anything else outside of what pertains to my own posts in this. You pointing out she needs help had nothing to do with me pointing out that the pain she went through sure as Hell could had lead to this, it's not ''clearly more mental issues than what happened in AOA!!''. That's invalidating what she went through, that's telling a bullying victim they didn't suffer enough to warrant the issues shes going through now.

10 years is not something you can fully grasp unless you experienced it yourself. 10 years ago we were all different people in some form, but there is no escaping the impact what she went through would of had on her. It's not ''something other than AOA fighting'' that lead to this. She's made it clear as day through her posts where her pain is coming from, and I am not about to use her emotional state to invalidate it. She's speaking from her heart, she's telling us what hurt her. She laid it out to all of us what's hurting her.

Also none of us are apart of her team of specialists, none of us are qualified to say how she should go about recovery. None of us have the knowledge to know how to handle her situation.

[Danee Danee]

1 hour ago, HRH Ayyu said:

Another cry for help.

The people saying she needs to get off social media, no one would of known How bad it is for mina still, if she didn't post that. I just hope nothing happens to her.

She needs to get off sns cause it most likely makes it worse. She mentioned things people said, dms people send her, changed her story several times by the ideas and exact words people posted to her. Sns is toxic even for stable person,l. 

Also us knowing in how bad state she is helps in which way. Most likely it will destroy her future career since we know how backwards SK is in dealing with people who had some issues. Also she can influence her followers to try it too. So there is negative outcome. She can vent her emotions. But its like screaming into wall. Noone is actually listening. We cannot help her either way. It must be done by those who are close to her physically. Seriously 90% "caring" about her here are here for "drama and tea" either way. Which is seriously hurting once you realize this. 

2 minutes ago, Neopoli said:

Your point when you quoted me continually insinuated that there was something more than just trauma going on, as if they pain she suffered wouldn't lead to this. I'm not acknowledging anything else outside of what pertains to my own posts in this. You pointing out she needs help had nothing to do with me pointing out that the pain she went through sure as Hell could had lead to this, it's not ''clearly more mental issues than what happened in AOA!!''. That's invalidating what she went through, that's telling a bullying victim they didn't suffer enough to warrant the issues shes going through now.

10 years is not something you can fully grasp unless you experienced it yourself. 10 years ago we were all different people in some form, but there is no escaping the impact what she went through would of had on her. It's not ''something other than AOA fighting'' that lead to this. She's made it clear as day through her posts where her pain is coming from, and I am not about to use her emotional state to invalidate it. She's speaking from her heart, she's telling us what hurt her. She laid it out to all of us what's hurting her.

Also none of us are apart of her team of specialists, none of us are qualified to say how she should go about recovery. None of us have the knowledge to know how to handle her situation.

I said her mental issues are worse issues then AOA dynamics and first she should go through therapy and then talk about what happen once she will see things more clearly and it wont end in urge to kill herself. How is it saying she had "more issues then what happened in AOA"? You are twisting the point. Even the member you quoted said it in different way aka her issues are deeper then simple "distress" and should be treated properly.

[Neopoli]

7 minutes ago, Danee Danee said:

She needs to get off sns cause it most likely makes it worse. She mentioned things people said, dms people send her, changed her story several times by the ideas and exact words people posted to her. Sns is toxic even for stable person,l. 

Also us knowing in how bad state she is helps in which way. Most likely it will destroy her future career since we know how backwards SK is in dealing with people who had some issues. Also she can influence her followers to try it too. So there is negative outcome. She can vent her emotions. But its like screaming into wall. Noone is actually listening. We cannot help her either way. It must be done by those who are close to her physically. Seriously 90% "caring" about her here are here for "drama and tea" either way. Which is seriously hurting once you realize this. 

I said her mental issues are worse issues then AOA dynamics and first she should go through therapy and then talk about what happen once she will see things more clearly and it wont end in urge to kill herself. How is it saying she had "more issues then what happened in AOA"? You are twisting the point. Even the member you quoted said it in different way aka her issues are deeper then simple "distress" and should be treated properly.

She already said she went to therapy? Even her current company already confirmed she's in therapy? She spoke up because she felt strong enough in the moment to speak up, which was brave of her. Therapy isn't a magical pill, 10 years doesn't go away in a day, nor does it with a few therapy sessions. Regardless of how she goes about expressing her pain, it's her pain. You can say how she expressed it is wrong, but you cannot tell her it is wrong and needs to go away. It won't ever go away unless she comes to terms with it. You don't will 10 years of trauma away, you work through it your whole life. This is why the netizen comments have been so understanding of her pain, this is a huge problem for South Korea and Asia as a whole, and I'm sure several of them can relate. Listen to victims.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Neopoli

[HRH Ayyu]

4 minutes ago, Danee Danee said:

She needs to get off sns cause it most likely makes it worse. She mentioned things people said, dms people send her, changed her story several times by the ideas and exact words people posted to her. Sns is toxic even for stable person,l. 

Also us knowing in how bad state she is helps in which way. Most likely it will destroy her future career since we know how backwards SK is in dealing with people who had some issues. Also she can influence her followers to try it too. So there is negative outcome. She can vent her emotions. But its like screaming into wall. Noone is actually listening. We cannot help her either way. It must be done by those who are close to her physically. Seriously 90% "caring" about her here are here for "drama and tea" either way. Which is seriously hurting once you realize this. 

I said her mental issues are worse issues then AOA dynamics and first she should go through therapy and then talk about what happen once she will see things more clearly and it wont end in urge to kill herself. How is it saying she had "more issues then what happened in AOA"? You are twisting the point. Even the member you quoted said it in different way aka her issues are deeper then simple "distress" and should be treated properly.

i see what your saying. i was just wondering if Hara or sulli had posted on social media would that caused enough of a reaction for their company and family to know to step in. I do think initially speaking out n social media . might of possibly saved Mina

But on the other hand the hate an nasty comments on social media is probably making it worse

[momorinxoxo]

10 hours ago, Shakey26 said:

It's devastating watching all of this unfold in front of our eyes and the situation just worsens everytime we hear from her. I wish I could be a friend to her. I wouldn't leave her alone for a second in the state she's in. She's so fragile right now I really hope she receives the help she needs and finds the happiness she deserves.

Same. I wish I could be a friend to her. I couldn't help but worry every time I see an article about her. I always go to her instagram to send her happy messages. I know I sound dramatic but I'm so heartbroken and in pain.. How I wish I could go to her right now. 

[Jikrytae]

On 8/9/2020 at 6:54 AM, HRH Ayyu said:

i see what your saying. i was just wondering if Hara or sulli had posted on social media would that caused enough of a reaction for their company and family to know to step in. I do think initially speaking out n social media . might of possibly saved Mina

But on the other hand the hate an nasty comments on social media is probably making it worse

It would've done nothing for Hara, who had already attempted suicide months before. It appears to only be making things worse for Mina.