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Genuinely think The9 is one of the most talented produce ggs created!


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The9 is the group created from China's Youth With You 2, and I love them! Definitely worth checking out if you haven't~ 

This group has it all- visuals, dance, stage presence, personality, vocal, good chemistry. And this show was so good, so many good trainees. Loved the theme of the undefined X girl group idol. This wasn't exactly the debut 9, but the message of this shoot was awesome.

Some of my favorite performances~

 

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They're great performers, yes. 7/9 of them are good to great dancers, and each have great stage presence. 

They lack vocalists though, or so I thought. YuYan is great main vocal, and some members are stable but for 9 members... it's not enough imo. But let's see because so far they only performed ONCE in a month+ as group.

(I need to save that no company performance asap before it gets deleted like the original)

Edit : omG it's the original it's back omG I forgive a sin of yours iqiyi

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40 minutes ago, Nero_Kpop said:

Well most of them are veterans so that helps

Honestly, these shows try to look down on these people with experience since they weren't successful the first time, so they need to join another show. But like, all the best contestants are those with experience. The problem isn't with them, the problem is lack of opportunity for idols in China.

14 minutes ago, felidae said:

They're great performers, yes. 7/9 of them are good to great dancers, and each have great stage presence. 

They lack vocalists though, or so I thought. YuYan is great main vocal, and some members are stable but for 9 members... it's not enough imo. But let's see because so far they only performed ONCE in a month+ as group.

(I need to save that no company performance asap before it gets deleted like the original)

Edit : omG it's the original it's back omG I forgive a sin of yours iqiyi

The vocals are their biggest weakness. But even still, on the whole the group is still impressive. Shaking is actually a vocalist before turning to rap 1-2 years ago. And even if they don't have enough main vocal power, actually I think their average live singing ability is above average. Many aren't necessarily top level vocalists, but they're really strong and stable live while dancing. 

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8 minutes ago, hess said:

The vocals are their biggest weakness. But even still, on the whole the group is still impressive. Shaking is actually a vocalist before turning to rap 1-2 years ago. And even if they don't have enough main vocal power, actually I think their average live singing ability is above average. Many aren't necessarily top level vocalists, but they're really strong and stable live while dancing. 

Ah so that's why. She and lyx and anqi besides yuyan are imo have the most stable vocal. Ysx has potential with more experience, and for others.... I guess I'm too nitpicking them bc I like them lol

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3 minutes ago, felidae said:

Ah so that's why. She and lyx and anqi besides yuyan are imo have the most stable vocal. Ysx has potential with more experience, and for others.... I guess I'm too nitpicking them bc I like them lol

Yeah, actually the show she was on before ywy, the producer recommended she prepare a rap song. And then the rest is history lol. I agree with your ranking. I also consider Kiki and Snow to be pretty stable live. The other 3 are a tier below and noticeably need more practice. I think K Lu's voice is on the soft side to begin with, so she has a natural disadvantage on top of it.

I know the9 gets the vocal criticism a lot, but tbh I don't really think idols require that much vocal ability. Consider some of the top successful solo female idol examples, a bunch of them aren't amazing vocalists, but they're stable vocalists with great presence. Or consider p101 China's rocket girls, they had several strong vocalists but then the songs that they ended up promoting 😶 ......... 

So I can agree, it's their weakest point, and they'd be even stronger with stronger vocals. But I think a lot of people overly consider it a huge weakness when I don't think the situation is that bad.

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2 hours ago, planetaria said:

technically they’re not a produce group aren’t they? at least they seem more connected with each other than the bonbon girls from chuang2020. still not sold on a few members tho :s

They're formed from youth with you 2, china version of produce 101 lol

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2 hours ago, felidae said:

They're formed from youth with you 2, china version of produce 101 lol

chuang2020 (produce camp 2020) is third season of the china version of produce 101. their groups formed have been rocket girls 101, r1se and now bonbon girls 303.

youth with you 2 (qcyn2) is idol producer’s third season. their groups are nine percent, unine and the9.

i still don’t know why both shows were renamed after their first season.

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45 minutes ago, planetaria said:

chuang2020 (produce camp 2020) is third season of the china version of produce 101. their groups formed have been rocket girls 101, r1se and now bonbon girls 303.

youth with you 2 (qcyn2) is idol producer’s third season. their groups are nine percent, unine and the9.

i still don’t know why both shows were renamed after their first season.

Lmao I thought idol producer was the Chinese version, as in they bought the format after the first session. I guess iqiyi just....stole it and continued it until s4 :derp:

They changed the name to "youth with you" for something about china banning "idol" word in shows, I heard. And I thought it's because they finally bought the right kahfkahakgdka 

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9 hours ago, planetaria said:

technically they’re not a produce group aren’t they? at least they seem more connected with each other than the bonbon girls from chuang2020. still not sold on a few members tho :s

My reference point is mainly the female seasons, I haven't technically watched any of the male seasons in full, though I followed most of Idol Producer and Korean Produce s2. But every season so far there's always a few less skilled or iffy members. I think the least skilled member of this season is arguably one of the strongest in comparison to past seasons.

4 hours ago, felidae said:

Lmao I thought idol producer was the Chinese version, as in they bought the format after the first session. I guess iqiyi just....stole it and continued it until s4 :derp:

They changed the name to "youth with you" for something about china banning "idol" word in shows, I heard. And I thought it's because they finally bought the right kahfkahakgdka 

Both are China produce versions, it's just put together by 2 different companies. So Youth With You still is considered a produce version. Tencent has done Produce 101, Produce Camp 2019, and Produce Camp 2020. I think only the 1st season they bought the official rights. Iqiyi has done Idol Producer, Youth With You, and Youth With You 2. I think they bought the rights for s2 and s3. The rebranding of the show title under both companies I believe was because of the rights. 

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