[Full Translations] 200531 Big Hit Entertainment Releases Statement About Suga’s Mixtape Sampling

[satoori]

Hello, this is Big Hit Entertainment. This is our official statement on the issue of BTS’ Suga’s mixtape.

The vocal sample of the speech in the introduction of the song “What Do You Think?” on the mixtape was selected without any special intent by the producer who worked on the track, who was unaware of the identity of the speaker and used the sample for the overall atmosphere of the song.

After the speech sample was selected, the company followed our internal process and carried out procedures for reviewing the appropriateness of the content. However, in both the selection and review processes, we committed an error in not recognizing the inappropriateness of the content and including the sample in the song.

Big Hit Entertainment has processes for reviewing its diverse content targeted toward a global audience for potential social, cultural, and historical issues. However, we are experiencing the reality that there are limits to understanding and correctly responding to every situation. In this case, we were not able to recognize the issue in advance and displayed a lack of understanding about the relevant historical and social issues. We apologize to those who felt uncomfortable or hurt because of this.

Big Hit Entertainment has removed the part of the song in question and re-released the new version.

The artist also feels embarrassed and deeply responsible for a problem that has arisen in an area that he did not consider.

Big Hit Entertainment will use this incident as a lesson to conduct its production process more thoroughly.

source: https://www.soompi.com/article/1403720wpp/big-hit-entertainment-releases-statement-about-sugas-mixtape-sampling-controversy

 

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[hlynb93]

I would advise anyone with half a brain to not bother going on twitter, it's a cesspool of denial, creative freedom fighters and poor sensitive oppa that needs to be protected. 

[Fourever]

explanantion given, apology offered, problem rectified..

if people have problems with the fandom so be it but the people who made the actual mistake are attempting to solve the problem

[satoori]

Welp, now some people are complaining about Bighit not having a backbone. No matter how this situation was handle there was going to be mixed reactions. Some people wanted an apology, some people just wanted a clarification explaining the meaning for the sampling, and then there were others that didn't see the need for any announcement.

 

 

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[echobunny]

honestly fuck armies who harassed everyone over this bullshit, they had the damn nerve to doxx people for questioning the use of the audio and acted like others are just haters and don't get the IMPORTANCE of the message of the song like...

this could have been cleared up so easily if not for the fandom always trying to lie and deny when BTS fucks up (they still do)

[Guest]

it's a good thing that BH issued a statement on this issue and removed the speech from the song!

they also acknowlegded their mistake and limits, so i guess they will be a lot more careful with their reviewing process in the future!

[BlessMeAchoo]

I deliberatley waited until Bighit or Yoongi addressed this situation before commenting on it myself because I wanted to hear both sides.

I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead.

I'm glad that they took that part out of the song though.

 

[satoori]

51 minutes ago, Fourever said:

explanantion given, apology offered, problem rectified..

if people have problems with the fandom so be it but the people who made the actual mistake are attempting to solve the problem

 

35 minutes ago, IAmNochu said:

it's a good thing that BH issued a statement on this issue and removed the speech from the song!

they also acknowlegded their mistake and limits, so i guess they will be a lot more careful with their reviewing process in the future!

 

exactly. growth. now their process can include more then translating but researching the full background too. then decided if they still want to move forward.

[satoori]

14 minutes ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

I deliberatley waited until Bighit or Yoongi addressed this situation before commenting on it myself because I wanted to hear both sides.

I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead.

I'm glad that they took that part out of the song though.

 

lol damned if they do damned if they don't..

1. if they had a deeper reason for using the speech, it seems they decided to make the executive decision not to release a clarification explaining. 

2. however we don't know how exactly this sample was found. bighit and bts listen to a lot of music. mixtapes specifically can sample other music. so it's possible the producers didn't know the background and there was not deeper meaning for using it.

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[starsocks]

I'm really surprised BH put out an apology, I guess it just got that big. It sounds like they know they badly screwed up though so hopefully this kind of thing doesn't happen again in the future.

[BlessMeAchoo]

20 minutes ago, satoori said:

lol damned if they do damned if they don't..

1. if they had a deeper reason for using the speech, it seems they decided to make the executive decision not to release a clarification explaining. 

2. however we don't know how exactly this sample was found. bighit and bts listen to a lot of music. mixtapes specifically can sample other music. so it's possible the producers didn't know the background and there was not deeper meaning for using it.

Just because they issued an apology it doesn't mean people have to accept the apology when it seems they're being dishonest and just trying to make excuses and shift the blame.

1.) It's clear from reading the lyrics that there is no deep meaninginful reason for including it...

2.) It doesn't matter how the sample was found, they still have the responsibility of researching it before putting it in the song.

 

I'm not hating on Yoongi or saying that he's a bad person because I don't think that's the case at all. However, he's clearly ignorant in this situation (along with whoever else produced this song) so criticism is deserved.

Edited May 31, 2020 by BlessMeAchoo

[Jaejoong01]

10 minutes ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

Just because they issued an apology it doesn't mean people have to accept the apology when it seems they're being dishonest and just trying to make excuses and shift the blame.

1.) It's clear from reading the lyrics that there is no deep meaninginful reason for including it...

2.) It doesn't matter how the sample was found, they still have the responsibility of researching it before putting it in the song.

 

I'm not hating on Yoongi or saying that he's a bad person because I don't think that's the case at all. However, he's clearly ignorant in this situation (along with whoever else produced this song) so criticism is deserved.

So how should they apologize in your opinion? Obviously, an apology can't satisfy every side but at least they did acknowledge their mistake. Now move on guys!

 

[satoori]

6 minutes ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

Just because they issued an apology it doesn't mean people have to accept the apology when it seems they're being dishonest and just trying to make excuses and shift the blame.

1.) It's clear from reading the lyrics that there is no deep meaninginful reason for including it...

2.) It doesn't matter how the sample was found, they still have the responsibility of researching it before putting it in the song.

 

I'm not hating on Yoongi or saying that he's a bad person because I don't think that's the case at all. However, he's clearly ignorant in this situation (along with whoever else produced this song) so criticism is deserved.

"I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead."

My reply was due to you saying you couldn't understand how some one could use a sample. The reason is by not doing their research. Bighit already in their statement literally apologizes for their lack of research. So..?

No one is saying he can't be criticized. It's exactly due to him being criticized that apology has been released. 

What more do you want?

[BlessMeAchoo]

4 minutes ago, Jaejoong01 said:

So how should they apologize in your opinion? Obviously, an apology can't satisfy every side but at least they did acknowledge their mistake. Now move on guys!

 

 

2 minutes ago, satoori said:

"I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead."

My reply was due to you saying you couldn't understand how some one could use a sample. The reason is by not doing their research. Bighit already in their statement literally apologizes for their lack of research. So..?

No one is saying he can't be criticized. It's exactly due to him being criticized that apology has been released. 

What more do you want?

They could start off by actually being honest. I don't buy for one minute that it was just a mistake putting that sermon in the song.

It was a poor decision not a mistake.

If they handle the situation badly, of course people aren't just going to move on.

 

 

[Jaejoong01]

5 minutes ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

 

They could start off by actually being honest. I don't buy for one minute that it was just a mistake putting that sermon in the song.

It was a poor decision not a mistake.

If they handle the situation badly, of course people aren't just going to move on.

 

 

Then continue believing that. 

[Jem's]

Lmao 

[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

39 minutes ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

 

They could start off by actually being honest. I don't buy for one minute that it was just a mistake putting that sermon in the song.

It was a poor decision not a mistake.

If they handle the situation badly, of course people aren't just going to move on.

 

 

exactly, someone on reddit said the audio clip is difficult to find and you have to deliberately be looking for it, that person knew about how hard it is to find the sampling because they said they did extensive research on Jim Jones in college. 

[satoori]

33 minutes ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

 

They could start off by actually being honest. I don't buy for one minute that it was just a mistake putting that sermon in the song.

It was a poor decision not a mistake.

If they handle the situation badly, of course people aren't just going to move on.

Then this sounds like a personal problem. You recognize how it can happen, but you don't believe that was the case here. Nothing more I can say..

 

They handle this situation fine, in my opinion. 

1. It wasn't getting much attention in Korea to begin with and internationally it didn't either other then some Kpop fans. But they still released a statement officially rather then remaining silent.

2. The fandom is overall fine with the apology. And the fans who didn't want an apology, are not blaming Yoongi but rather Bighit. 

In conclusion, this shall pass too.

[BlessMeAchoo]

1 hour ago, Jaejoong01 said:

Then continue believing that. 

I will...

 

1 hour ago, satoori said:

Then this sounds like a personal problem. You recognize how it can happen, but you don't believe that was the case here. Nothing more I can say..

 

They handle this situation fine, in my opinion. 

1. It wasn't getting much attention in Korea to begin with and internationally it didn't either other then some Kpop fans. But they still released a statement officially rather then remaining silent.

2. The fandom is overall fine with the apology. And the fans who didn't want an apology, are not blaming Yoongi but rather Bighit. 

In conclusion, this shall pass too.

It's not a personal problem. I don't just have to take their word for it if I don't agree.

 

1.) It didn't get attention because Armys tried to bury it.

2.) The fandom clearly isn't 'overall fine with the apology' I've seen plenty of tweets with over 10k likes still refusing to admit that there's even a problem. There are plenty of users even on this site who jumped through hoops in an attempt to justify this situation too.

 

But yes, I'll be glad when this situation passes over too because it's a mess.

[JellyToBe]

The company statement make it like a mistake but it can't be. Music production is their core business. Copyright issue is like their everyday routine. The statement want to tell us they straight up using a speech on a song without knowing the origin? If BH is really doing business like this all these years, they were extremely lucky then. Let's be honest! Whoever wrote the song wanted to act cool but screw up.

Good that they take down that part immediately.

[satoori]

1 hour ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

It's not a personal problem. I don't just have to take their word for it if I don't agree.

 

1.) It didn't get attention because Armys tried to bury it.

2.) The fandom clearly isn't 'overall fine with the apology' I've seen plenty of tweets with over 10k likes still refusing to admit that there's even a problem. There are plenty of users even on this site who jumped through hoops in an attempt to justify this situation too.

 

But yes, I'll be glad when this situation passes over too because it's a mess.

and that's why it's a personal problem. each person can decide if they believe the statement or not.

1. nah most armys didn't even know about it. majority are not educated about jim jones. and of course, koreans are not as focus on this. plus it was those armys who didn't like the sample who were the main ones emailing bighit.

2. "overall fine" meaning the fandom will move on eventually - not cancelling bts/yoongi. besides i addressed those fans who didn't like the apology. again they will blame bighit not yoongi. so..

 

yea it will pass eventually. that's the best part about releasing an official statement asap

 

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[miachu]

As a fan, regardless of whether I believe bighit's statement or not, I'm disappointed Yoongi didn't release a statment himself since it's his personal mixtape. Even if he's not the producer for that specific song, he talked extensively about the mixtape process in vlives and clearly sees it as something that is a reflection of himself, so it's very disappointing that he's letting the company act as his mouthpiece when the topic got hard. All I have to say.

[Timur Sharapov]

4 hours ago, BlessMeAchoo said:

I deliberatley waited until Bighit or Yoongi addressed this situation before commenting on it myself because I wanted to hear both sides.

I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead.

I'm glad that they took that part out of the song though.

 

 

Don't you think that asians may not know the whole history of western civilization just like westerners don't know about ours? No? Is it so hard to believe or so out of possibility? Why?

I personally still don't see any issue here. 

Offtop: btw every mention of Michael Jackson also should get "toxic issue" treatment as he's acknowledged pedophile by western establishment.

(Personally I don't believe it).

[Timur Sharapov]

5 minutes ago, satoori said:

and that's why it's a personal problem. each person can decide if they believe the statement or not.

1. nah most armys didn't even know about it. majority are not educated about jim jones.

 

Yes, I have zero idea about Jim Jones or whoever that motherfucker is.

And I'm not obliged to know about every western tragedy etc. Just like westerners don't have to know about my part of the world.

And it's fucking getting boring how westerners think that the Sun revolves around the West, and that they're the center of the Universe.

What an arrogant people.

They should calm down their ego. It's too big for their own good.

[miachu]

8 minutes ago, Timur Sharapov said:

 

Don't you think that asians may not know the whole history of western civilization just like westerners don't know about ours? No? Is it so hard to believe or so out of possibility? Why?

I personally still don't see any issue here. 

Offtop: btw every mention of Michael Jackson also should get "toxic issue" treatment as he's acknowledged pedophile by western establishment.

(Personally I don't believe it).

Putting a sample into a song is an extensive process that undergoes multiple rounds of copyright approval and reviewing. It's not something put in by accident. As an artist and also as a company whose primary business is music copyright, I don't think it's unreasonable to check the origins of whatever samples you're putting into a song.