[Full Translations] 200531 Big Hit Entertainment Releases Statement About Suga’s Mixtape Sampling

[BlessMeAchoo]

I deliberatley waited until Bighit or Yoongi addressed this situation before commenting on it myself because I wanted to hear both sides.

I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead.

I'm glad that they took that part out of the song though.

 

[BlessMeAchoo]

20 minutes ago, satoori said:

lol damned if they do damned if they don't..

1. if they had a deeper reason for using the speech, it seems they decided to make the executive decision not to release a clarification explaining. 

2. however we don't know how exactly this sample was found. bighit and bts listen to a lot of music. mixtapes specifically can sample other music. so it's possible the producers didn't know the background and there was not deeper meaning for using it.

Just because they issued an apology it doesn't mean people have to accept the apology when it seems they're being dishonest and just trying to make excuses and shift the blame.

1.) It's clear from reading the lyrics that there is no deep meaninginful reason for including it...

2.) It doesn't matter how the sample was found, they still have the responsibility of researching it before putting it in the song.

 

I'm not hating on Yoongi or saying that he's a bad person because I don't think that's the case at all. However, he's clearly ignorant in this situation (along with whoever else produced this song) so criticism is deserved.

Edited May 31, 2020 by BlessMeAchoo

[BlessMeAchoo]

4 minutes ago, Jaejoong01 said:

So how should they apologize in your opinion? Obviously, an apology can't satisfy every side but at least they did acknowledge their mistake. Now move on guys!

 

 

2 minutes ago, satoori said:

"I'm sorry, but it just sounds like an excuse to me. They're trying to pass it off as a mistake. I really don't see how someone can put the sermon of a mass murderer in a song by mistake. You'd have to specifically search for it to find it and if they wanted to include some kind of speech there are plenty of speeches that aren't from mass murderers that could have been used instead."

My reply was due to you saying you couldn't understand how some one could use a sample. The reason is by not doing their research. Bighit already in their statement literally apologizes for their lack of research. So..?

No one is saying he can't be criticized. It's exactly due to him being criticized that apology has been released. 

What more do you want?

They could start off by actually being honest. I don't buy for one minute that it was just a mistake putting that sermon in the song.

It was a poor decision not a mistake.

If they handle the situation badly, of course people aren't just going to move on.

 

 

[BlessMeAchoo]

1 hour ago, Jaejoong01 said:

Then continue believing that. 

I will...

 

1 hour ago, satoori said:

Then this sounds like a personal problem. You recognize how it can happen, but you don't believe that was the case here. Nothing more I can say..

 

They handle this situation fine, in my opinion. 

1. It wasn't getting much attention in Korea to begin with and internationally it didn't either other then some Kpop fans. But they still released a statement officially rather then remaining silent.

2. The fandom is overall fine with the apology. And the fans who didn't want an apology, are not blaming Yoongi but rather Bighit. 

In conclusion, this shall pass too.

It's not a personal problem. I don't just have to take their word for it if I don't agree.

 

1.) It didn't get attention because Armys tried to bury it.

2.) The fandom clearly isn't 'overall fine with the apology' I've seen plenty of tweets with over 10k likes still refusing to admit that there's even a problem. There are plenty of users even on this site who jumped through hoops in an attempt to justify this situation too.

 

But yes, I'll be glad when this situation passes over too because it's a mess.

[BlessMeAchoo]

17 minutes ago, Timur Sharapov said:

 

Don't you think that asians may not know the whole history of western civilization just like westerners don't know about ours? No? Is it so hard to believe or so out of possibility? Why?

I personally still don't see any issue here. 

Offtop: btw every mention of Michael Jackson also should get "toxic issue" treatment as he's acknowledged pedophile by western establishment.

(Personally I don't believe it).

I never said people from Asia have to know everything that happens in the west. Literally no one is saying that. It doesn't matter where the tragedy happened, using the sermon of a mass murderer is wrong no matter where said murderer is from. Why is that so hard to understand? Jim Jones is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people so including his sermon in a song for no reason other than being edgy or whatever else is just not it. Let's not forget that BTS are global artists, so if they want to promote in the west then they (Bighit and BTS) ought to educate themselves on issues involving the west.

Besides, to find an audio clip of the sermon they would have had to search for it and as an artist you have the responsibility of looking into the origin of the audio before adding it to your song. To even search for it they would have at least had to know Jim Jones' name and the details about him are literally right there if you search for him so there's no excuse really.

I don't really get why you're bringing up Michael Jackson, as you said, it's offtopic so why are you even mentioning it at all when it's completely irrelevent to everything?

Edited May 31, 2020 by BlessMeAchoo