[pannchoa] THIS IS K-POP VS THIS IS NOT K-POP

[jeong jaehyuns boyfriend]

21 minutes ago, soyundorito said:

If koreans are okay with this then I don’t see a reason as to why us non koreans be mad and calling them things, I won’t listen to them but is extremely stupid to send them hate and call them names and treat them as “racist” just don’t pay them attention and stfu 

1 hour ago, seokii said:

I know it's going to be unpopular with international fans but i'm in the "this is kpop" camp

" K-pop (abbreviation of Korean pop; Korean: 케이팝) is a genre of popular music originating in South Korea.^[1] While the modern form of K-pop can be traced back to the early 90s, the term itself has been popularized since the 2000s, replacing the term Gayo (가요), which also refers to domestic pop music in South Korea.^[2][3] Although it generally indicates "popular music" within South Korea, the term is often used in a narrower sense to describe a modern form of South Korean pop that is influenced by styles and genres from around the world, such as experimental, rock, jazz, gospel, hip hop, R&B, reggae, electronic dance, folk, country, and classical on top of its traditional Korean music roots. "

If we are talking about K-pop as a genre, there's no reason you couldn't call this K-pop.

1 hour ago, babushka said:

if this isn't K-POP (although they sing in Korean), then why do Koreans artists who sing in English get their music branded as K-POP?

i dont get this logic. so we have to follow what korean people say and do? no... lol we can have our own opinions as non-korean international fans of kpop as a genre of music. we dont need approval from knetz for our opinions.

to me, kaachi is not kpop. theyre basically a cosplay/cover group trying to sell themselves as an actual kpop group. and yes, i don't think that they're racist, but i do think that part of what makes this group problematic involves race, and people are allowed to have a discussion about that (without being hateful, of course). what if there was a group primarily made of white people that claimed to be a latin american pop group, or an african pop group? would that make it any better, if white singers started a group and tried to brand themselves as a hispanic or black music group? what makes this any different? you cant just dye your hair and sing in korean, and call yourselves a kpop group. there's more to it than that. it comes with being based in korea and having a cultural presence in your group and in your music. 

in my opinion, this is no different than white actors taking up asian roles in hollywood. asian actors are already marginalized and dont receive the same opportunities that their white counterparts do. so when you cast a white actor for an asian role, youre taking an opportunity away from an asian person, who is already struggling to find success in the few niche roles that are available to them. that's something called privilege. kpop gives korean and non-korean east/southeast asian people representation and visibility in the global music industry. we dont need this group to "spread kpop to america and europe", we need ACTUAL KPOP GROUPS with actual korean/asian people to shine on those stages. PERIOD! im not a fan of BTS, but that's what makes BTS so amazing - the fact that a korean pop group was able to break through into the mainstream american music industry, despite singing in korean and being composed of entirely korean members, and theyve always continued to center their culture in their music. 

what's the difference between kaachi and a kpop cover group, other than the fact that they dont consider themselves a "cover" group and came out with an original song? im not attacking them, and i dont condone spreading hate to anyone - but personally, for me... they dont come off to me as authentic kpop and they lack cultural integrity. 

im not directing this at any of you specifically, i just feel strongly about this. theyre playing their privilege pass card, big time. and im not here for it.

Edited May 3, 2020 by jeong jaehyuns boyfriend