literally tilted 6,595 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 The whole live-action seems like a shitshow now, and I genuinely hope it flops. It needed an online petition for Disney to actively pursue Chinese actors for a movie based on CHINESE mythology. They removed all aspects of the original film in favor of something towards the original mythology but it's most likely not family friendly enough for Disney; combined with the fact that the director AND writers are ALL WHITE, I feel like the outcome of the film will be another disappointing misportrayal of Asian culture. Even if the director focused on the original mythology, her explanation of the removal of Li Shang recently was on the basis of the #MeToo movement and I think it's another depiction of White feminism at play. As a commander training Mulan, Li Shang had always seen Mulan as male during that period AND Mulan was the one who initiated the thought of romance when it was revealed that she was a woman and when she was promoted to a rank higher than him. If anything, they should've explored Li Shang's possible bisexuality instead of having their only LGBTQ+ representation a literal ugly troll cop; considering that bisexual people constantly undergo discrimination by other LGBTQ+ people AND straight people alike. The last gripping part of this film is the actress portray Mulan herself. Not only has she been criticized for her subpar acting, she has expressed support for the Hong Kong police. Ugly ass troll should've sat there and ate her food. In conclusion, don't watch mulan pls. 7 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbiedoll 4,097 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 No i will watch it btw. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronx. 2,763 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 so what if production is white? its american, right?? i only cant figure out if shes gonna pretend to b male or no also i think it looks fine. we could easily get white version of the story And imma watch it to hear the main actress English 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighterxx 12,204 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 i will stream illegally for you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlpadam 1,336 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 i definitely understand some of your points but i hope it doesn’t flop because if it does, disney will think making a movie featuring an asian woman and asian cast is a flop and waste of money., then never make a similar movie again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soman 2,951 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I havent watched any of the disney remakes and am not planning to 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spopo 2,003 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bronx. said: so what if production is white? its american, right?? sis u know there are asian-americans right?? It isn't a white country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronx. 2,763 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, spopo said: sis u know there are asian-americans right?? It isn't a white country. so?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovenatu 5,347 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) It's sad because I actually really would love to see Asian representation in Hollywood but this movie has so many issues lol. Liu Yifei as an an actress just doesn't do it for me, istg in the whole trailer she has the exact same facial expression. This movie has been a mess from the moment it was first announced, before they even finalised the cast. but I think it'll flop anyways because of the virus Edited March 1, 2020 by lovenatu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah.blah.blah 6 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Can we take entertainment as just that and not another avenue to channel wokeness? The original directors and writers are white and it turned out fine. The original did not explore Li Shang's sexuality and it turned out fine. The original did not have any LGBTQ+ representation and it turned out fine. Then you demand that they not follow the original mythology because it's not family-friendly enough for you? That they should have altered traditional Chinese mythology to satisfy your wokeness? What happened to respecting other cultures? Li Shang never existed in the original mythology. I don't understand why you insist that Mulan has a love interest because she doesn't need one. Mulan was always a movie about an independent women who overcame adversity by herself. Li Shang is at best a sub-plot that does nothing to forward the storyline except remind us that girls need to have a love interest to truly succeed and live happily ever after. The name of the movie is "Mulan" and not "Mulan and Li Shang and their exploration of his inner sexuality". Keep your faux wokeness and selective outrage to yourself. I'll watch the movie thank you. Edited March 1, 2020 by blah.blah.blah 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spopo 2,003 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, bronx. said: so?? so... there's no reason for it being an american movie to mean that people of asian descent can't be involved in production..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feary 2,115 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Sis I agree with your points all of them 100%. I wasn't going to watch simply because of her comments on Hong Kong but I agree with everything else you mentioned. You beat the nail right on the head. I hope it flops too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
literally tilted 6,595 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 hours ago, blah.blah.blah said: Can we take entertainment as just that and not another avenue to channel wokeness? The original directors and writers are white and it turned out fine. The original did not explore Li Shang's sexuality and it turned out fine. The original did not have any LGBTQ+ representation and it turned out fine. Then you demand that they not follow the original mythology because it's not family-friendly enough for you? That they should have altered traditional Chinese mythology to satisfy your wokeness? What happened to respecting other cultures? Li Shang never existed in the original mythology. I don't understand why you insist that Mulan has a love interest because she doesn't need one. Mulan was always a movie about an independent women who overcame adversity by herself. Li Shang is at best a sub-plot that does nothing to forward the storyline except remind us that girls need to have a love interest to truly succeed and live happily ever after. The name of the movie is "Mulan" and not "Mulan and Li Shang and their exploration of his inner sexuality". Keep your faux wokeness and selective outrage to yourself. I'll watch the movie thank you. The most ironic thing about this post is that it selectively takes words from the original post to craft an argument about selective outrage. My original post is on the basis of Disney's historical trends of creating films and television shows. I'm not inconsistently arguing on the film to follow the original mythology. The new film has obviously strayed away from the original film and said to have moved on towards the original mythology. I'm saying that staying on the original mythology is obviously not going to happen because it's inconsistent with Disney's background of a "family-friendly" image. You don't think of Disney and then think of non-family friendly concepts. In fact, Disney build their Disney Princess franchise on repurposing gruesome mythologies and stories to be more family-friendly. Disney also recently moved that "Love Simon" TV series to HULU because it wasn't family friendly enough, the "Lizzie McGuire" reboot ENDED because it wasn't family friendly enough. That being said, it's obviously they're going towards a new direction that's not consistent with the original film nor the original mythology; giving more leeway for the director to explore new concepts and correct some historical inaccuracies from the original film so it won't end up like a two hour Oli London music video. I'm stating a FAN-FAVORITE THEORY that Li Shang may have been bisexual as an OPTION that they can explore, rather than shoving "Diversity!" in the headlines when in reality they shoved a pink troll in Onwards for five seconds. I'm also saying the removal of Li Shang could've been literally ANY OTHER reason rather some weak pandering to gender politics of the #MeToo movement that the director outlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hynapia 3,977 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 What does the #MeToo movement have to do with removing Li Shang though? I don't understand. The character wasn't problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmi7A 106 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I remember the main girl bashing Hong Kong and proudly claiming herself as chinese despote bring American and living comfortable western lifestyle there. So I'll totally ignore that shit show 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiwon 5,843 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 have u watched the movie? i honestly think it looks really good and interesting... it's been literally a decade or more since i've been this excited for a disney movie so sorry lol i will watch the movie anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seokii 3,424 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 You raised some good points, I don't necessarily agree with all of them but I didn't know about the lead actress that really does put a bad taste in my mouth, if she openly supports the HK police... TBH the reason I'm not going to watch it is because the trailer looked bad. I'm shallow. It just looked really shitty lol. Which is too bad because I thought the idea of exploring the Chinese myth was a good idea, I'd like support Asian-led films, but it sounds like this film is missing the mark for other reasons anyway It's just a shame because you know if it does flop, some execs at Disney will be sitting there ready to use it as proof that Americans don't want to watch Asian-led movies. Which may or may not be true. But it's too bad, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseLikeACrowTit 862 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rananicolee 10,266 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 I'm going to watch it....when it comes to Disney+. I think if someone really wants to tell the legend of Mulan then time and care should be taken into the project. I would love to see a good movie about Mulan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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