[NB] Hyuna's 'reggae hair' under debate

[sakurahanabira]

12 minutes ago, adda said:

like always, Americans make a fuss out of nothing. 

Sure let's generalize all Americans when there are a lot of Americans (particularly white Americans) who couldn't care less about these things. 

[Zack Morris]

14 minutes ago, Golden SLY said:

Imagine calling out people because you feel disrespected but proceed to make a disrespectful remark and is even proud of it.

Omg girl, baldness isn’t even that serious what are you on about afdghdk

[SLY]

6 minutes ago, Zack Morris said:

Omg girl, baldness isn’t even that serious what are you on about afdghdk

Alopecia is a serious case that is inconveniencing people of different genders and races. It is a reason for discrimination and people suffering from it are often looked down to the point of not being able to get jobs or treated right. Some people turn to drugs and even suicide because of alopecia.

I see you are ignorant about the topic so I am making an effort to educate you rather than to wish you get bald or something.

If you don't even know how disrespectful your words are towards people suffering from baldness then you don't have any right to call out and mock people who are disrespectful of your culture and race. I'm not saying it's of the same caliber but I assume you are not stupid as to not get what my point is.

Anyways I don't belittle your sentiments and I do understand how you feel for people making the culture into a fashion statement. I hope companies start to do lessons for their artists to understand cultural differences especially since KPop is a global thing already and fans of different races may get hurt.

Edited January 17, 2020 by Golden SLY

[frozentear]

8 minutes ago, melancholic autumn said:

Sure let's generalize all Americans when there are a lot of Americans (particularly white Americans) who couldn't care less about these things. 

And yet white Americans contributed to this. Why do you think black Americans feel so strongly about the hair thing in the first place?

[Acer]

lots of non black people braid their hair, I don't think most do it to downplay black culture, it is just braiding hair is trendy for a long time now. 

Our humanity future gen won't have hair in 10,000 years cause everyone going bald and will have no toe fingers!!

[adda]

Is not the world’s fault that in the U.S there was a strong anti-black hair sentiment for decades /centuries, is not our fault that the black codes existed in state constitution, is not our fault that locks might jeopardize job prospects for black American in the U.S and  is definitely not our fault that black life (to some extent) is still dehumanised and criminalised there, in the U.S. People (Americans in particular) should stop tiding non-Americans hair with American politics and American black identity and scream "she's mocking a culture ..." , because the world does not revolve around U.S.

Edited January 17, 2020 by adda

[coval]

I don’t see why Americans are bringing up people getting fired in America for box braids.
She’s a Korean living in Korea.

”Double-Standards” arguments only work in America.

 So going by your logic since black people in Korea can wear their braids to work then her wearing them isnt a double standard anyway. Idk what the fuss is with.

[Zack Morris]

12 minutes ago, Golden SLY said:

Alopecia is a serious case that is inconveniencing people of different genders and races. It is a reason for discrimination and people suffering from it are often looked down to the point of not being able to get jobs or treated right. Some people turn to drugs and even suicide because of alopecia.

I see you are ignorant about the topic so I am making an effort to educate you rather than to wish you get bald or something.

If you don't even know how disrespectful your words are towards people suffering from baldness then you don't have any right to call out and mock people who are disrespectful of your culture and race. I'm not saying it's of the same caliber but I assume you are not stupid as to not get what my point is.

 

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Anyways I don't belittle your sentiments and I do understand how you feel for people making the culture into a fashion statement. I hope companies start to do lessons for their artists to understand cultural differences especially since KPop is a global thing already and fans of different races may get hurt.

 

Yeah, I realized I was being shitty towards Hyuna. This is an amazing example of educating others in a respectful manner, thank you. And to add, thank you for not discrediting or invalidating my feelings/opinions all together 

[rananicolee]

24 minutes ago, Golden SLY said:

Alopecia is a serious case that is inconveniencing people of different genders and races. It is a reason for discrimination and people suffering from it are often looked down to the point of not being able to get jobs or treated right. Some people turn to drugs and even suicide because of alopecia.

I see you are ignorant about the topic so I am making an effort to educate you rather than to wish you get bald or something.

If you don't even know how disrespectful your words are towards people suffering from baldness then you don't have any right to call out and mock people who are disrespectful of your culture and race. I'm not saying it's of the same caliber but I assume you are not stupid as to not get what my point is.

 

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Anyways I don't belittle your sentiments and I do understand how you feel for people making the culture into a fashion statement. I hope companies start to do lessons for their artists to understand cultural differences especially since KPop is a global thing already and fans of different races may get hurt.

 

Honestly, the best reply to someone rather than being all angry on them. This is how you respond to someone properly when you disagree. 

[grooveorganic]

Why is this called reggae hair? Did she call it that? Plenty of non-black folks braid their hair and we, black people from the US, move on with life because we're aware of this. I personally wouldn't have given Hyuna a second glance if she passed me on the street with this look, yet, I've never relaxed/flat ironed/hot combed/silk pressed my 4C hair and called it anything racial. People would be flipping their lid if we referred our pressed hair as "Asian/kpop style" or something equally insensitive and asinine. Why is this still a thing? If it's just hair, why is a specific and racially/culturally targeted name used?

Edited January 17, 2020 by grooveorganic

[panqueque]

Who cares? She looks pretty.

[felidae]

51 minutes ago, grooveorganic said:

Why is this called reggae hair? Did she call it that? Plenty of non-black folks braid their hair and we, black people from the US, move on with life because we're aware of this. I personally wouldn't have given Hyuna a second glance if she passed me on the street with this look, yet, I've never relaxed/flat ironed/hot combed/silk pressed my 4C hair and called it anything racial. People would be flipping their lid if we referred our pressed hair as "Asian/kpop style" or something equally insensitive and asinine. Why is this still a thing? If it's just hair, why is a specific and racially/culturally targeted name used?

Idk who called it 'reggae hair' (her in her post or the netizen in comments) but reggae artists (in korea, especially. See : HAHA and his group) braided their hair like that so. Yeah. I'm not sure if that's why they called it 'reggae hair' or some other reasons.

So it is either cultural(???) appropriation or appreciation? Maybe? 

Edited January 17, 2020 by felidae

[secondgrade]

looks awful tbh

[freya]

This thread is not a good look at all when 9/10 comments are about black people being too sensitive or think the world revolves around them.

Maybe don't pile on and then feel surprised that black people feel like yall hate them. Also maybe don't talk down to them or belittle people.

[Sataengist]

I'm north africain and i used this hairstyle a lot when i was a kid, and so did many of our ancestors, it's definitely not a hairstyle that only black people do and i agree that americain shouldn't push people to take offense of things that only concern them  

[Danee Danee]

6 hours ago, n3bula said:

But there are black people with naturally straight hair. I literally have cousins with naturally straight hair and we're all black.

And there are white people with naturally curly hair. My collegue has light brown (almost blonde) "afro". She was born with it even though she is fully white. So? Its just hair tbh.

[LostChild]

2 hours ago, Sataengist said:

I'm north africain and i used this hairstyle a lot when i was a kid, and so did many of our ancestors, it's definitely not a hairstyle that only black people do and i agree that americain shouldn't push people to take offense of things that only concern them  

Not only women of north african descent but also lot of white women wear it in France and none of my black friends were ever upset at them for this because they know it's not specific to subsaharian africans. I would have understand people saying it's cultural appropriation if Hyuna had wear dreadlocks or cornrows but those braids are definitely not specific to black culture.

[Jikrytae]

8 hours ago, JoJo29 said:

no offense but do americans really think black people own this hairstyle? are they really that dumb?

Certain Americans obviously are, not all of us. The more worldly among us realize braids have existed throughout time in numerous cultures, and none if it has anything to do with American racial politics. Cultural appropriation isn't cool, but this isn't necessarily* an example of it.

The thing that's annoying about this particular subject is that certain groups tend to be much louder about cultural appropriation than others, and too often people play favorites & only have a problem with their own culture being appropriated. They stay silent when it's someone else's. And plenty of black people have been guilty of it as well. I'm not accusing anyone here of this, but it's definitely something that happens and makes it harder to take the whole thing seriously. I also think people in general have gone off the deep end in trying to be PC, looking for issues where they don't exist, and this is possibly* one such example.

*Now, just to play devil's advocate, it's possible Hyuna actually did this in an attempt to copy a certain look popularized by a specific group of people. Just because braids have existed in numerous cultures, that doesn't necessarily mean she isn't purposely trying to copy a specific one. If that's the case, should she be crucified for it? No, but it would be a little more reasonable for some to be upset. Still, she hasn't gone full racist caricature mode, no one can claim exclusive ownership of a hairstyle, and I'm sure she'll never give an explanation for this either way. Especially if it continues to blow up. She'll probably just delete the photo and pretend it never happened. So why fret over it? Unless you're concerned for the fact that it looks like absolute shit, which I don't see nearly enough people mentioning. 

 

 

[frozentear]

3 hours ago, Danee Danee said:

And there are white people with naturally curly hair. My collegue has light brown (almost blonde) "afro". She was born with it even though she is fully white. So? Its just hair tbh.

Nobody is saying they don't though. As a matter of fact they are equating straight hair with Asians. I don't think I've ever seen anyone come for a white person having naturally curly hair or  afro.

 

8 hours ago, adda said:

Is not the world’s fault that in the U.S there was a strong anti-black hair sentiment for decades /centuries, is not our fault that the black codes existed in state constitution, is not our fault that locks might jeopardize job prospects for black American in the U.S and  is definitely not our fault that black life (to some extent) is still dehumanised and criminalised there, in the U.S. People (Americans in particular) should stop tiding non-Americans hair with American politics and American black identity and scream "she's mocking a culture ..." , because the world does not revolve around U.S.

This is in more places than you think (especially Latin America). I don't think Hyuna is mocking black people though.

Edited January 17, 2020 by frozentear

[starsocks]

5 hours ago, freya said:

This thread is not a good look at all when 9/10 comments are about black people being too sensitive or think the world revolves around them.

yup.

[shaym]

She can't possibly be thinking that it looks on her? 

[plutto]

God this thread is so ignorant. You guys are so insensitive it hurts.

Anti-Black sentiment is definitely not only an American thing.

 

[seokii]

she looks cute I hope she has a great day and gets a fat paycheck

[one-hoe wonho]

lmao, there's no such thing as reggae hair. reggae is a music genre, not a hairstyle. 

[reiichi]

On 1/17/2020 at 3:13 AM, frozentear said:

Not all of them. They're making comparisons that they don't understand, such as black people straightening their hair. Some black people get fired for wearing their natural hair (so they have to straighten it or wear wigs/weaves). The blond hair comment is ridiculous too because there are black people with natural blond hair.

They're fired for this _in the US_ and pretty much not anywhere else. The US are the most racist country in the world and should try to solve their own problems before attacking the rest of the world over fashion choices.