Rumor: New CUBE girl group w/ Han Chowon & Lee Joohyun To Debut This Year

[imx]

YES CHOWON!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although ngl I was anticipating a BG with Seonho in it for 2020...

[LeggoStar]

3 hours ago, bzz said:

So, you admitted cute concept was a key to its failure, right?

Nah its bad management. Cube gave up like a kid who dropped hot cake as the response wasn't immediate enough for them. Who knew what wouldve happend to gidle if by mircale latata didnt pick up steam over months. With CLC pepe was good, but then they started adding members and changed concepts drastically (which I dont mind cause I love the added members), which is known to affect public recognition/initial fanbase (look at 9muses, so many amazing songs but still couldnt hit big domestically cause of so many member changes).

Plus when CLC released black dress, that couldve been the momentum needed for their next hit since it got a lot of attention, but they decided to wait another year to release NO which is another bad management choice. What I can say now is they're not in a bad spot, all the members has had time to fit their concept and own it. Their latest album No.1 is their highest selling, they had their first trophy win, they are only gaining and not losing. All cube needs now is consistency, if they drop the ball now I don't know how it will work.

Edited January 4, 2020 by LeggoStar

[hynapia]

3 hours ago, bzz said:

So, you admitted cute concept was a key to its failure, right?

But almost everything they've been releasing in the past 2 years (Hobgoblin, Black Dress, No, Me) is dark/girl crush/fierce and they still charted bad and sold around 10k only. People just can't get into them for some reason.

[MlleCherry]

Actually, I have mixed feelings about the Cube NGG.

I see the trainees that might be in the group, like Han Chowon, Lee Joohyun and Yu Gaeul and they're talented. SM debuted FX while SNSD was 2 year old, so Cube can deal with the ngg while Idle can produce and compose their songs. It might work BUT Cube is not SM and has a habit of not handle well his groups. It will be more preferable to focus on Idle, maybe later it would be great to debut the ngg. And which concept Cube will give them? I don't see Chowon, Joohyun and Gaeul with a girly concept. They fit more darker concepts imo. I just don't want a CLC situation, but I it would such a waste of talent... 

[hee_woo]

4 hours ago, LeggoStar said:

Nah its bad management. Cube gave up like a kid who dropped hot cake as the response wasn't immediate enough for them. Who knew what wouldve happend to gidle if by mircale latata didnt pick up steam over months. With CLC pepe was good, but then they started adding members and changed concepts drastically (which I dont mind cause I love the added members), which is known to affect public recognition/initial fanbase (look at 9muses, so many amazing songs but still couldnt hit big domestically cause of so many member changes).

Plus when CLC released black dress, that couldve been the momentum needed for their next hit since it got a lot of attention, but they decided to wait another year to release NO which is another bad management choice. What I can say now is they're not in a bad spot, all the members has had time to fit their concept and own it. Their latest album No.1 is their highest selling, they had their first trophy win, they are only gaining and not losing. All cube needs now is consistency, if they drop the ball now I don't know how it will work.

Imo, there were so many things that affected them, but I don't think adding new members was one of them. What I see were mostly missed opportunities by Cube during their management (adding Eunbin BEFORE Pd101 ended, making an 180 degree concept change after Hobgoblin instead of riding the new hype, etc), actually adding members did help them a bit. From what I've seen, knetz mostly blame the concept changes, Pepe did okay, but it wasn't as good as many people say. Honestly I mostly attribute CLC's "failure" (sorry I just hate to say that), to bad luck, and perhaps, poor choices of title songs (Like, High Heels, WAY). Also, people don't talk a lot about this, but CLC's suffered from some witch-hunting during their rookies after they were caught up in some scandals.

OT: I don't think CUBE will give up on them after debuting the ngg, people were saying the exact same thing when G(I)-dle debuted, but instead, they got 3 comebacks last year (and Sorn has been hinting that there's more to come). The article is not 100% confirmed anyways.

[hynapia]

3 hours ago, MlleGabby said:

Actually, I have mixed feelings about the Cube NGG.

I see the trainees that might be in the group, like Han Chowon, Lee Joohyun and Yu Gaeul and they're talented. SM debuted FX while SNSD was 2 year old, so Cube can deal with the ngg while Idle can produce and compose their songs. It might work BUT Cube is not SM and has a habit of not handle well his groups. It will be more preferable to focus on Idle, maybe later it would be great to debut the ngg. And which concept Cube will give them? I don't see Chowon, Joohyun and Gaeul with a girly concept. They fit more darker concepts imo. I just don't want a CLC situation, but I it would such a waste of talent... 

I guess they can give them a teen crush concept? Fierce but with a youthful vibe like Weki Meki or ITZY so they don't overlap with CLC/G-idle more mature/dark concept. But I personally can't picture Chowon doing a ITZY-esque concept either tbh so I'm intrigued.

[Usagi.]

No  about rbw ngg?

[vortex]

i'm excited to see chowon, but i'm worried about clc 

[bzz]

18 hours ago, LeggoStar said:

Nah its bad management. Cube gave up like a kid who dropped hot cake as the response wasn't immediate enough for them. Who knew what wouldve happend to gidle if by mircale latata didnt pick up steam over months. With CLC pepe was good, but then they started adding members and changed concepts drastically (which I dont mind cause I love the added members), which is known to affect public recognition/initial fanbase (look at 9muses, so many amazing songs but still couldnt hit big domestically cause of so many member changes).

Plus when CLC released black dress, that couldve been the momentum needed for their next hit since it got a lot of attention, but they decided to wait another year to release NO which is another bad management choice. What I can say now is they're not in a bad spot, all the members has had time to fit their concept and own it. Their latest album No.1 is their highest selling, they had their first trophy win, they are only gaining and not losing. All cube needs now is consistency, if they drop the ball now I don't know how it will work.

You ignored why Cube put CLC on the sideline in the first place. Because the group continuously received cold responses from its early cute releases. That's why, after the long hiatus, the group came back with "Hobgoblin" of a complete opposite concept. The group gained better interest after the concept switch that it didn't go back to former concept. Cube was too slow to realize CLC wouldn't make it with cute concept.

If I remember correctly, CLC was meant to comeback with "La Vie en Rose" after "No". Something happened behind the scene and the song went to another group which received fuming hot response from it.

However you like CLC, you have to be aware that, had CLC belonged to another label, it might have been locked in the dungeon or disbanded considering its level of success. Cube is to blame for its failure yet, this level of activeness for CLC is humane on Cube's part.

18 hours ago, hynapia said:

But almost everything they've been releasing in the past 2 years (Hobgoblin, Black Dress, No, Me) is dark/girl crush/fierce and they still charted bad and sold around 10k only. People just can't get into them for some reason.

Yes, they haven't been so good, yet better the before. Sorn said the group had moved upward gradually after concept change.

[CarolinaPanthersFan]

Well, of course the thing here is that nothing has been confirmed or denied regarding this kind of speculation.  And with that being said, we will just have to wait very patiently and find out if it's really happening or not.  It's just most definitely obvious that only time will tell if there's another girl group coming from the agency.

[juniordud]

On 1/4/2020 at 10:26 AM, bzz said:

So, you admitted cute concept was a key to its failure, right?

clc was first introduced to the public as a band, they busked for a long time with their instruments:

 

Then they debuted as a dancing idol group, which made them lost a lot of fans, but what really killed them was the Yeeun scandal, when she was deemed rude to BTOB

 

After that the public purposely turned their back on them, to this days, they still have a bad image for it. For example in 2018, clc were still called slut and foxes who lured Pentagon for this performances

 

Funny enough it's E'Dawn x HyunA & Hui x Soojin who were exposed as couples the next days.

[My Everything]

1 hour ago, juniordud said:

For example in 2018, clc were still called slut and foxes who lured Pentagon for this performances
 

 

As a Cheshire I never even seen knetz being mad at this lol

[Drama Drama Drama]

3 hours ago, juniordud said:

clc was first introduced to the public as a band, they busked for a long time with their instruments:

 

Then they debuted as a dancing idol group, which made them lost a lot of fans, but what really killed them was the Yeeun scandal, when she was deemed rude to BTOB

 

After that the public purposely turned their back on them, to this days, they still have a bad image for it. For example in 2018, clc were still called slut and foxes who lured Pentagon for this performances

 

Funny enough it's E'Dawn x HyunA & Hui x Soojin who were exposed as couples the next days.

Add the Yeeun iljin rumor without proof