satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 In my opinion, Twice had a really really strong year. Their 2019 releases both in Korea and Japan have been some of my favorite songs from idol groups. I feel Twice is heading in the right direction musically. However it seems the Korean public isn't getting on board? Maybe some Once are not either? It's to early for them to start declining in Korea. They haven't peaked, right? What should JYPE and Twice do for next year in 2020? Maybe it's not the music and concept. Marketing? Promotion? Lack of Mina? Sana scandal? Jihyo dating? etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperpeaches 213 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 rather than korea not getting on board, i just feel like soloists have been doing so exceptionally well that it makes everyone else look bad in comparison. besides bts, who did great, i also think twice was solid with their performance. ranking 9 or 10 in melon chart is no easy thing to do for groups these days. also fancy and feel special are super catchy and fun to listen to and i definitely hope they keep releasing this sort of music! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 honestly I think if they had released these songs 2 years ago it would have done great. It's just natural decline. It will continue if they don't bring something new. 16 minutes ago, satoori said: It's to early for them to start declining in Korea. They haven't peaked, right? What should JYPE and Twice do for next year in 2020? On korean charts they certainly have peaked. Their strongest year was 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) nah. its just Twice's fandom is so goddamn the laziest out of every fandoms out there. lol . in my point of view, some fans are just jumping when they hear Twice's name, some loyal fans just dont really care about it whether if its voting, scandal, or watever the reason its just i can see Once's is the moooooooooooosssstttt laziest fandom of them all. Edited November 14, 2019 by Jihyo StoleMyHeartAYAYAY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, hyperpeaches said: rather than korea not getting on board, i just feel like soloists have been doing so exceptionally well that it makes everyone else look bad in comparison. besides bts, who did great, i also think twice was solid with their performance. ranking 9 or 10 in melon chart is no easy thing to do for groups these days. also fancy and feel special are super catchy and fun to listen to and i definitely hope they keep releasing this sort of music! true tho chungha and mammoo were able to remain stable. even itzy is nominated for soty. i don't get why twice isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, puellarum generatio said: honestly I think if they had released these songs 2 years ago it would have done great. It's just natural decline. It will continue if they don't bring something new. On korean charts they certainly have peaked. Their strongest year was 2016. all their releases this year was so new and fresh what type of "new" are people looking for?... Just now, Jihyo StoleMyHeartAYAYAY said: nah. its just Twice's fandom is so goddamn the laziest out of every fandoms out there. lol why have they become lazy? with music and concepts like this, i would of thought a fandom would get motivated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, satoori said: all their releases this year was so new and fresh what type of "new" are people looking for?... why have they become lazy? with music and concepts like this, i would of thought a fandom would get motivated! i just dont know why but ever since the award show back in 2017 ... fans wont vote if you dont ask them but i didnt generally talk about the entirety of the fandom. just some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellarum generatio 3,628 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, satoori said: all their releases this year was so new and fresh what type of "new" are people looking for?... was it though ? It feels more like a slow evolution, it's still very much Twice as we know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Jihyo StoleMyHeartAYAYAY said: i just dont know why but ever since the award show back in 2017 ... fans wont vote if you dont ask them but i didnt generally talk about the entirety of the fandom. just some of them. so something happen in 2017, ok.. by asking, you mean like the company re-tweet and ask idk it's to early for a fandom to get burnt out...maybe this is temporary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperpeaches 213 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, satoori said: so something happen in 2017, ok.. by asking, you mean like the company re-tweet and ask idk it's to early for a fandom to get burnt out...maybe this is temporary there is also sometimes less motivation to vote if you know your faves won't be attending the show - i haven't voted for any award show because i didn't think exo was gonna go to any . don't twice have a concert on the day of mma? Edited November 14, 2019 by hyperpeaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, puellarum generatio said: was it though ? It feels more like a slow evolution, it's still very much Twice as we know it hmmm true...tho for some groups i prefer gradual change. twice is one of them plus i would of thought their korean fans would of appreciated this way more too..i guess not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pururin 14,348 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Musically this was their best year ever, my favorite out of all ggs i checked out. They deserved to smash 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, hyperpeaches said: there is also sometimes less motivation to vote if you know your faves won't be attending the show - i haven't voted for any award show because i didn't think exo was gonna go to any . don't twice have a concert on the day of mma? i'm not sure, if they're busy it's understandable with exo since they haven't been active all year as a group. most people forgot about their last year releases which count twice is a different story. they were very active and in the spotlight. they can still win an award even with out attending. it's odd for once to give up easily just because twice might not attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, satoori said: so something happen in 2017, ok.. by asking, you mean like the company re-tweet and ask idk it's to early for a fandom to get burnt out...maybe this is temporary well maybe who knows. they are still selling albums and digitally recognized in Korea so its not a big deal right now. What i do care is the fact that they have the strongest competitors in daesang sections. I just want the girl to have Album of the Year award or Artist of the Year award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, hyperpeaches said: there is also sometimes less motivation to vote if you know your faves won't be attending the show - i haven't voted for any award show because i didn't think exo was gonna go to any . don't twice have a concert on the day of mma? well they have Twicelights Japan Tour happening right now and on Nov 30 when MMA is happening, Twice is having a concert in Nagoya so .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Jihyo StoleMyHeartAYAYAY said: well maybe who knows. they are still selling albums and digitally recognized in Korea so its not a big deal right now. What i do care is the fact that they have the strongest competitors in daesang sections. I just want the girl to have Album of the Year award or Artist of the Year award. touring and physical sales are still increasing, so you're right that's a sign of a fandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, satoori said: touring and physical sales are still increasing, so you're right that's a sign of a fandom a silent but deadly fandom to be exact right now im worried about their music wise because unlike the past years. Twice has changed their music concept, the old fans are still adapting to it but more importantly. new fans are born. their highest peak was back in TT and i just hope they make a song that can surpass the peak level of TT back in the days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Jihyo StoleMyHeartAYAYAY said: a silent but deadly fandom to be exact right now im worried about their music wise because unlike the past years. Twice has changed their music concept, the old fans are still adapting to it but more importantly. new fans are born. their highest peak was back in TT and i just hope they make a song that can surpass the peak level of TT back in the days. right now could be a transitional period then by 2020 hopefully the old fans will have adapted and new fans will be ready. next yea could end up being a powerful year for twice. anything is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, satoori said: right now could be a transitional period then by 2020 hopefully the old fans will have adapted and new fans will be ready. next yea could end up being a powerful year for twice. anything is possible ill agree to that. lets hope for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Jihyo StoleMyHeartAYAYAY said: ill agree to that. lets hope for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, satoori said: true tho chungha and mammoo were able to remain stable. even itzy is nominated for soty. i don't get why twice isn't only people who won the top 10 artist bongsang for mma got nominated for daesangs. and twice was not. voting played a big role in that too so i feel like onces kind of failed them on that front... Edited November 14, 2019 by ethereal 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Just now, ethereal said: only people who won the top 10 artist bongsang for mma got nominated for daesangs. and twice was not. voting played a big role in that too so i feel like onces kind of failed them on that fron... 20% was from voting base on what's been said, yes once let them down too Edited November 14, 2019 by satoori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, satoori said: 20% was for voting if exo beat them out for a spot...onces def could have gotten twice in there by voting harder. but thats just my opinion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satoori 45,814 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ethereal said: if exo beat them out for a spot...onces def could have gotten twice in there by voting harder. but thats just my opinion. i wouldn't say that out loud you do make a point... i also think k-once could of been a bit more stronger streaming and downloading (not just the title)...since it was 80% Edited November 14, 2019 by satoori 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nofave 2,009 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 they are not even going to mma and have not for 2 years now maybe thats why fans dont care to vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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