[enter-talk] "PRODUCE" RIGGED IZONE AND X1, THE FANS "POLICE, RELEASE THE ORIGINAL DATA"

[Polaris_Tae]

Article talks about the fans requesting the police to release the raw data amidst of police investigation as it was previously stated that they would not be revealing the real ranking
http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2019/11/12/2019111202348.html

original post: here

1. Complete all the investigations, and reveal everything

2. If you took our money to fake those votes, you should at least release the raw data

3. Release the real ranking!!!!!

4. Once the investigation is over, we want the raw data

5. Before another victim appears, just reveal the data. Release it also for the kids who won the show fair square so they don't get the rigged tag on them anymore

6. Of course they should reveal it, I don't understand why they wouldn't reveal it

7. Obviously you need to reveal itㅡㅡ What crimes did the kids who actually debuted through their hard work commit????

8. Rather than knowing who were the rigged members, I'm more curious to know if my bias was dropped fairly or not

9. I'm f*cking curious I need popcorn for this

10. Anyways, since the first episode everything has already been prefixed. Someone even said that the top20 was already settled since the beginning, so what's the meaning of revealing the real ranking anyways?
 

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[Deea]

Why dont they release it already? People lost money for this stupid voting,may as well respect their wishes now. 

[Zaiku]

Give the people what they paid for.

[Acer]

9. I'm f*cking curious I need popcorn for this

 

[headway]

42 minutes ago, Deea said:

Why dont they release it already? People lost money for this stupid voting,may as well respect their wishes now. 

Starship, Woolim and MBK already spent money to bribe the PD to rig the results. What makes you think that they aren't doing the same thing now to cover up their cheating?

Edited November 13, 2019 by headway

[HRH Ayyu]

I think the police won't reveal it cause it will cause harm to the contest who were all pawns .but I won't be surprised if the real ranking was keaked

[AriNoona]

Surely the real vote numbers would come out in any trials as it is evidence that would need to be presented in court and would therefore be reported by the media. So it will come out eventually.

[timpa]

I think people really underestimate the impact the PD had if they think all this amounts to is on the final vote he swapped three people.

 

these shows were TAINTED from the start. Extra screentime and positive edits were given to trainees from companies that bribed him. CJ E&M also since they were producing the group that would form likely had input as well. Would it be a shock to find out Miyu was not considered "marketable" so despite having top 5 fan interest she got less and less screentime and an attempt to show her poorly to manipulate voting.

would it be a shock to find out Miu had her time reduced because they worried about the old video of her visiting a museum for Japan's prime minister during their occupation of Korea.

the PD's impact on the final groups is so much bigger than vote swapping in the final vote IMO

[Crescentdo]

Just release the real ranking already

[Ksoo9]

2 hours ago, timpa said:

I think people really underestimate the impact the PD had if they think all this amounts to is on the final vote he swapped three people.

 

these shows were TAINTED from the start. Extra screentime and positive edits were given to trainees from companies that bribed him. CJ E&M also since they were producing the group that would form likely had input as well. Would it be a shock to find out Miyu was not considered "marketable" so despite having top 5 fan interest she got less and less screentime and an attempt to show her poorly to manipulate voting.

would it be a shock to find out Miu had her time reduced because they worried about the old video of her visiting a museum for Japan's prime minister during their occupation of Korea.

the PD's impact on the final groups is so much bigger than vote swapping in the final vote IMO

How do u explain Produce pushing Wonjin and eventually Minhee over Jungmo? Jungmo is also from Starship and had more hype and popularity than the 2 boys. 

[adda]

just add to the current lineups those who were unfairly cut. 

[reiichi]

 

8 minutes ago, adda said:

just add to the current lineups those who were unfairly cut. 

What if they asked not to be in the final group ? Because considering who was probably rigged out, for some it may have been their personal choice, or their agency asking for it.

[The_Vixen]

I guess They aren't doing it in behalf the members safety who got into the group by their companies cheating 

Edited November 13, 2019 by The_Vixen

[harumaki]

Just reveal it already -__- 

[Spiral]

On 11/14/2019 at 1:01 AM, adda said:

just add to the current lineups those who were unfairly cut. 

Nah, it will be more awkward. I doubt the trainees who were rigged out would even wanna join after Mnet's mistreatment towards them

[kissxkiss_baby]

At this rate x1 might actually disband...I think they should promote with the actual final line up

[Vikturi]

I say reveal the real rankings
It will salvage some of the current members' reputation when people find out they genuinely got in

[Kami Nana]

So many people are fine with ruining the potential careers of those that were pawns in this...? Just because members were "rigged in" doesn't mean they, themselves, are guilty of said rigging...or even aware of it until now.

[adda]

X1 and Izone are active groups. They better reveal the real ranking of Wanna One and I.O.I since those groups are already disbanded. 

[reiichi]

14 hours ago, Vikturi said:

I say reveal the real rankings
It will salvage some of the current members' reputation when people find out they genuinely got in

But it will destroy the careers of the ones who got rigged in, even if they didn't do anything wrong themselves. The companies are the only ones that should be affected, but in the end it's the members of the groups that are suffering the most in this shitshow.

Tbh I'd rather see the groups disband quietly than see the real rankings revealed, because it will be a lot less damaging for the members' careers.

[Vikturi]

On 11/18/2019 at 11:50 PM, reiichi said:

But it will destroy the careers of the ones who got rigged in, even if they didn't do anything wrong themselves. The companies are the only ones that should be affected, but in the end it's the members of the groups that are suffering the most in this shitshow.

Tbh I'd rather see the groups disband quietly than see the real rankings revealed, because it will be a lot less damaging for the members' careers.

Why should the ones who genuinely got in suffer with the ones who didn't? Do you see how unfair it is to the ones who really got in? Like, does that not get through the fans' thick heads?

[reiichi]

7 hours ago, Vikturi said:

Why should the ones who genuinely got in suffer with the ones who didn't? Do you see how unfair it is to the ones who really got in? Like, does that not get through the fans' thick heads?

The fans care about everyone and not just the ones who legitimately got in. And to me all of the boys deserve to have a career, but having their individual names associated with the rigging for sure will kill it. Because some agencies can just use personal bad image as an excuse to throw them under the bus, rather than make the effort to profit from their Produce popularity (something you can expect them to do if the group disbands).