[NB] SM Entertainment SNS riddled with comments questioning responsibility

[Ash-Pikachu]

Article: Comments of criticism continue on SM Entertainment's official SNS "Who's next after Sulli?"

Source: Aju Econ via Nate

1. [+1,004, -30] Don't treat your artists well only when they're making you money... you're the ones who should know better than anyone how difficult, dirty, and crude the industry can be... please pay more attention to the mental healths of your artists

2. [+873, -35] Does SM not take care of their kids??????

3. [+804, -63] Out of the big three, they're the quietest company with the least scandals and yet they suffer the worst things to happen;

4. [+39, -1] YG's problem is the opposite in that that they protect their kids way too much

5. [+32, -0] I noticed that SM has a tendency to keep their artists on board without terminating any contracts but if you're going to do that, please continue to take care of them and give them the attention that they need. Keeping their contracts on board isn't the only way to care for your artists....

6. [+28, -1] At this point, I'd rather a company that does drugs that a company that throws away lives. That's how much this breaks my heart. My head hurts over the shock of this news.

7. [+26, -5] Wow... look at these netizens trying to blame SM without thinking of what they've done. Sulli died because of your hate comments, not because SM didn't do anything about those hate comments. Disgusting people...

8. [+21, -1] Despite all the hate comments Sulli had to endure, she never once sued any of them. She looked so unstable, SM needed to have stepped up earlier... at least sue her haters for her... I can't help but feel that SM could've done more for her.

9. [+20, -1] Stop blaming people. Blaming the media, blaming the agency, blaming 'Night of Hate Comments'... before blaming others, look back on your own actions.

10. [+17, -6] Honestly, I've never seen SM take any official action over her hate comments. They take in young kids and put them through intense competition before debuting them as singers and then milk them as much as they can to make their investment back. They don't stop to check the mental healths of these kids... Let's be real, Super M was only put together because EXO and SHINee are in the army and they're scared of their stock prices dropping. So many of them have complained of sasaengs but SM has never done anything about it. Honestly... SM needs to be in trouble for that....

 

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[A Hamster Named Loneliness]

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7. [+26, -5] Wow... look at these netizens trying to blame SM without thinking of what they've done. Sulli died because of your hate comments, not because SM didn't do anything about those hate comments. Disgusting people...

9. [+20, -1] Stop blaming people. Blaming the media, blaming the agency, blaming 'Night of Hate Comments'... before blaming others, look back on your own actions.

10. [+17, -6] Honestly, I've never seen SM take any official action over her hate comments. They take in young kids and put them through intense competition before debuting them as singers and then milk them as much as they can to make their investment back. They don't stop to check the mental healths of these kids... Let's be real, Super M was only put together because EXO and SHINee are in the army and they're scared of their stock prices dropping. So many of them have complained of sasaengs but SM has never done anything about it. Honestly... SM needs to be in trouble for that....

 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Spring By Chance

[ethereal]

the blame game in all of this is honestly such a mess. no single group of actors in this whole thing should have the entirety of the blame pushed on them. bc it was so much more than just one thing. the hate comments, the show she was clearly damn near forced to be on, sm's lack of awareness or care for what their idols feel. it was all of that. it was the system that let that girl debut so young, that let her get just about groomed by that choiza dude who pretty much caused her initial public "spiral" and subsequent bashing. 

there are so many issues that need to be reformed, fixed, and eliminated, so future idols don't have to feel like this and end up like this. but just pushing around blame isn't going to make anything change.  

[godblessdelulu]

2 SM artists took their own lives within a 2 year span, even if SM was partially or fully responsible, they need to take action for their artists' mental health.

[barbiedoll]

I believe sm did have their own mental care department. It just sulli didn’t survive because of the hate comments she received. She pretend to be strong outside but very deep inside of her, the pain is like a billion far hurts. This kind of feeling is actually very dangerous. Even tho if sm have their own mental care, i still hope they noticed and take a seriously action to their artist who have a symptom of the depression. Rip sulli. 

[JENKAI]

SM, its time to do something. it is clear so many of your artists are struggling with mental health. they are harassed by the media and also anti fans, yet you dont do enough to protect them. as an exo fan i've seen so many disgusting rumors about the members written by anti fans, picked up by the media. yet you do nothing most of the time. i believe its not just exo, a lot of your other artists are struggling with the same problem.

i know its not your fault fully, i know netizens and society are mostly to blame on this. but i believe you need to be more responsible for their mental health. the fact that you  lost 2 of your artists to depression in the span of 2 years means you needs to do more to protect them.

Edited October 15, 2019 by JENKAI

[GenjuroX]

Oh please, don't place all the blame on SM. How about taking accountability for ourselves as well.

 

[Winter Bear]

I hope finally SM can get their artists the care they deserve but the people asking for these changes, need to be the change they want to see. This is a wider problem in their country and not just online but irl people need to take the time to listen and be kind.

Just wanted to add that the disregard for mental health is a world wide problem, so we all need to do better for ourselves and for future generations.

Edited October 15, 2019 by Winter Bear

[shootinstar]

i don't want to defend sm and i do think they're responsible esp. after two of their artists committed suicide. but honestly all they can do as a company is just to provide support for their artists' mental health (maybe by giving consultation or providing psychiatrists and mental health department). it's not like they can monitor each of their people individually every time. yes, being an SM artist can be quite stressful with the lack of job schedule (or perhaps a full one instead). but let's be real exactly that's not the main reason that pushed sulli to commit suicide. what about looking at the society itself? the way all these celebrities are perceived once they do something even slightly wrong (or unusual) - it's like they get attacked by a swarm of bees through online anonymous comments. sm is certainly accountable due to its lack of awareness and ignorance towards their artists, but all the faults shouldn't definitely be blamed on them.

1 hour ago, Ash-Pikachu said:

9. [+20, -1] Stop blaming people. Blaming the media, blaming the agency, blaming 'Night of Hate Comments'... before blaming others, look back on your own actions.

 

Edited October 15, 2019 by shootinstar

[Solemn_Penance]

Posted by Netizen Buzz translating a Nate article... yeah.

[felidae]

6 minutes ago, Solemn_Penance said:

Posted by Netizen Buzz translating a Nate article... yeah.

Making money while it last~ not caring that they are responsible on the hate comments as well~

[Aster Trap]

They could do anything but if the society are still going to continue  being trash and ugly, even strong mentality person will be hurt from all those harsh words throwing at them. Words cut deeper than knife.

Part of it might be true that it's SM responsibility to manage their artists mental health better by giving them all the best prevention and protection they could, but everyone limit isn't the same and that's how much they could do, she trying and struggling to survive the cruel society while battling anxiety at the same time yet they still thinking they has no contribution on this matter..yikes

Edited October 15, 2019 by Aster Trap

[Feraligatr]

Pointing the finger at SM is a but rude and ignorant imo. We don't know what their mental care is and they can't control what is posted online or in the media. There is a wider issue and that is how mental health is portrayed in Korean society. There is still a lot of social stigma attached to it

[Bitoku]

Obviously the commenters should take a look at themselves. But SM should step in and sue haters and sasaengs. Sasaengs especially since they have direct contact with the idols, i don't know how many times Baekhyun suffered from them. They stalk him to his house, spam call his phone number, harm him and his reputation when he calls them out. And yet they get away with everything.

[Aegyo]

spare us from your crocodile tears..

[ohmymistake]

i  am not sure it's appropriate to start blaming sm just one day after this all happened.

[frozentear]

While SM should protect their artists better, as much as I hate that company, it's not entirely their fault (though they do have a part to play in all of this). Ya'll need to look at yourselves...who's the one posting hate comments that drove Sulli to do this in the first place? Not SM.

Edited October 15, 2019 by frozentear

[Andrew L]

Korean society's outrageous standards for female idols to the point of driving them to isolation is extremely dangerous and should be addressed not only by idol companies but basically the media themselves. The media often provides breeding ground for hatred, basically giving people a reason to hate on these celebrities just for being who they are. SM should also reinforce their support system for their artists to help anyone who is struggling. 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Andrew L

[Catallena]

[+20, -1] Stop blaming people. Blaming the media, blaming the agency, blaming 'Night of Hate Comments'... before blaming others, look back on your own actions.

[i2NE1]

She was their artist, it’s their job to take care of her. Specially since she was vocal about it with them. 

[seunghyun choi]

On 10/15/2019 at 2:16 AM, Feraligatr said:

Pointing the finger at SM is a but rude and ignorant imo. We don't know what their mental care is and they can't control what is posted online or in the media. There is a wider issue and that is how mental health is portrayed in Korean society. There is still a lot of social stigma attached to it

True the way we present mental health here in Korea is a major problem and potentially the major factor to this is issue, including the shit holier than thou mentality that many netizens even international fans exhibit with their bullshit and judgements it ironically pathetic because western countries don't care or have this much  emphasis on the lives of celebrities. But here in Korea these international fans love the idea guess the lack of being able to control people's lives in their own country fuels this.

But yes SM Entertainment does bare responsibility for this whether it does or doesn't have a mental health department etc is irrelevant it can't be ignored that they have had two high profile suicides in the last 2yrs. In Asian cultures and society especially Korea those who are in charge bare responsibility because they are the one's supposed to take care of you.  In this case its SM entertainment they almost entirely and exclusively control everything about these kids lives, so even if they tried their best they still bare some responsibility even if its minimal  for what's happened since 2017

[johnnyrose]

On 10/14/2019 at 11:24 PM, Ash-Pikachu said:

10. [+17, -6] Honestly, I've never seen SM take any official action over her hate comments. They take in young kids and put them through intense competition before debuting them as singers and then milk them as much as they can to make their investment back. They don't stop to check the mental healths of these kids... Let's be real, Super M was only put together because EXO and SHINee are in the army and they're scared of their stock prices dropping. So many of them have complained of sasaengs but SM has never done anything about it. Honestly... SM needs to be in trouble for that....

 

 

[xchoozchoozx]

While the ugly ones that directly sent hate to Sulli should take responsibility, SM should also take his fair share.  How strong is SM mental health system?  Do they check these artists mental health monthly to every 6 months depending severity of their mental health? Do they mandate counseling weekly to monthly depends on severity?  If a person's mental is unstable, don't you think SM should have withdrawn the person from projects, mandating continuous monitoring and/or sent them home to their love ones?  People who are mentally unstable should NOT be alone. If SM can take kids in and take away their freedom, then the least he could do is protect them from physical and mental abuse, especially in the entertainment industry where there's a high risk of psychological issue.  SM has the capability to prevent the worsening of her condition.  Also,  when a person decide to attempt suicide, most likely there are multiple of reasons - direct hate msg, stress/ pressure, family, love life, etc, not just one.  

Edited October 17, 2019 by xchoozchoozx
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