[knetizen] SuperM’s ‘Jopping’ debut stage, lip-sync?

[Just Peachy]

Since they're targeting the US market, they should really try to tone down the lip sync as much as possible. Lip sync is looked down upon even more in the US than in Korea, and a lot of big artists get backlash even if they just do it once. It's been associated with something fake and manipulative ever since the many big 80s lip sync scandals of e.g. Milli Vanilli and Boney M plagued the industry. Maybe just stick to a loud backtrack during the chorus or something?

[Just Peachy]

39 minutes ago, Yanagi said:

Uh actually Milli Vanilli faked their voices even in studio recordings it was actually two different people singing instead of the actual duo. Same with the lead vocalist of Boney M.

Lipsyncing live has never been a problem as long as you got talent to back it up. 

Most singers get flack for lipsyncing because they're no actual singer perfomers: like a rapper lipsyncing or simply just a vocalist like Adele is completely unnecessary compared to singer-dancer-performers like SuperM or any kpop dance group. 

In the mid 80s: When Billie Jean just got dropped, MJ used to lipsync Billie Jean when he danced because he was scared of his voice cracking during the higher notes.

Example: Motown 25

But the rest of the performance medley of Motown 25 he sang live. And as the years went he got more confident he started dancing and singing live to that song and other choreo heavy songs.

And clearly its no problem for Baekhyun and Kai to sing/rap live while dancing.

So them lipsyncing in some concerts, or first week recordings of music shows is no problem. As long as They're not lipsyncing because the they can't sing live: and they're lipsyncing to preserve their voice. Its ok. Like many professional singers and performers do. Every professional singer performer knows when it's necessary to lipsync on live performances and when not to.

 

And that's exactly why lip syncing NOW has a really bad connotation in the US. Milli Vanilli and Boney M used it to fake their entire careers. Lip syncing always gets hate in the US. Even Beyonce has gotten hate for it, and everyone knows she can sing. 

Edited October 6, 2019 by Just Peachy

[Just Peachy]

23 minutes ago, Yanagi said:

 

Except it doesn't, not in this day and age where mainstream artists barely have any talent at all.

We aren't stuck in the 2000s lmao. Ashlee didn't get hate just for lipsinging the performance

This is why she got hate and essentially black listed. Its not of her lipsync it's basically the fact that almost every single time she performed she didn't put any energy into it and obviously lipsynced. Ex. her halftime performance.

And Beyonce gets hate for everything by the white mainstream media and tabloids, so using her as an example isn't wise. Beyonce has showed her entire career that she doesn't need lipsync and her singing live gets labeled as lipsync by the media when the whole inauguration thing wasn't even that big of a deal.

She said she sang along with a pre recorderd track which is totally different than stating she said she lip sync. Her mic was lowered. She never really lip sang so it wasnt that big of a deal.

 

Her voice echoed right around the timestamp, it only does that when you sing along live to a pre recorded song. Not when it's purely lip sung.

But anyways we are talking about lipsyncing today. Literally half of the mainstream pop artists you know today can't hold a note even while sitting down. 

Nowadays social media and streaming has allowed people with barely any talent gain fame. Back then you had to have a lot of talent and/or extremely good looks.

So granted even then lipsyncing was super taboo to do during award shows, unless you had status to shield that. But it's fact that almost 60 percent of singer from the 90s to early 2000s used to lipsync during their concerts and private shows.

SuperM is a group catered to western KPOP stans so yes, we know their talents. It's not like their showcase was aired on MTV or something.

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Also Selena was never looked as an actual artist, so people hated her regardless for being a former disney star.

 

Why are you trying so hard to change the narrative around lip syncing? People in the US, and the west in general, don't respect lip syncing unless the artist is sick (and even then there's gonna be a lot of complainers). That's just common knowledge. Every artist gets slammed for even just one lip sync performance. Ariana, Mariah in her peak days, Celine Dion, Beyonce, RHCP, Muse, Jason Derulo, Bruno Mars etc... The list is literally endless. People just generally don't respect it. Live music is valued higher than a dance performance here.

If you don't care about your idols lip syncing that's your right to do so, but don't expect the US gp to feel the same way.

Edited October 6, 2019 by Just Peachy