Ash-Pikachu 51,270 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Pann: Controversial topic in Europe1. [+465, -37] 65 is too young. I think 80 is the right age.2. [+226, -34] This is a nonsense ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ Even Korea is becoming an extremely aged society and it's worse for Europe. Only empty-headed people would say that.3. [+219, -200] I get their point. This claim came out during Brexit. Because the senior class supported Brexit, the progressive young class got upset and came up with the claim. We think it's a nonsense because we have a democratic government but even during Park Geun Hye's government, people wanted age over 80 to be banned from voting. And I think the minimum age to vote should be lower.4. [+99, -2] Why do people want the minimum age to vote to be lower? If teenagers can vote, why not let elementary school kids vote, too? You think this is picking a class president?5. [+95, -3] Then who's going to speak for the rights of seniors?6. [+85, -0] It can't even be a joke because deprivation of vote means deprivation of citizen. It's equivalent to women not being able to vote in the past. The right to vote is the symbol of democracy. It can't be done.7. [+61, -5] How stupid of them to think that only young adults are the future...8. [+45, -2] Wow, we're in the generation of 120 age, so 60 is only a half of the lifetime. How can they say it's not the future?9. [+42, -1] The politicians also need the 60 age limit. Well, they won't do their work regardless of their age anyways.10. [+29, -1] What is this... They only see the future and not the present. The thought of taking away the right to vote from those over 60 is pathetic enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkleBee 2,701 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 This ain't right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardonnay 1,698 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5. [+95, -3] Then who's going to speak for the rights of seniors? ^^^^ The elderly have issues that are unique to them. Those issues may be neglected if they're not allowed to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Soshistar 9,394 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Some points were made.Do y'all have any ideas how many racist ass middle aged citizens who voted for the worst leaders because it fits their conservative ideals and ruined the youths nowadays?WHEW But then again..Voting is a citizens rights and everyone deserve to vote and choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evermore 3,280 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Of course they should be allowed to vote lmao Our society is getting older and we are fathering less children. If you take away the right to vote from senior citizens you are shooting yourself in the knee because we are all getting older by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmm 209 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 that sounds right to me. Why allow somebody who is going to die in 7-10 years to vote when the consequences (if there are any) would impact only the younger generation. but the ban should be placed to people older than 65. (75 sounds appropriate to me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheeTaeLover 170 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It seriously doesn't make any logical sense considering that the elderly make up a significant portion of the population of some well-developed countries (especially Japan) lmao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneful 6,537 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I agree with him tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tide 14,243 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 that sounds right to me. Why allow somebody who is going to die in 7-10 years to vote when the consequences (if there are any) would only impact the younger generation. but it should be older than 65, 75 sounds appropriate to me so people who are chronically ill should not be allowed to vote? ,,, "i don't like the way this demographic of people vote so i don't want them to be able to vote" euhhmm? the logical stance would be to mobilize demographics who you think would support your cause, not question the rights of people who you think won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIAsVocals 212 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Oof I think I was a bit harsh there I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurachinaDisuko 3,721 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 "65 is too young" im surprised to hear that seeing how in a lot of korean talk shows and stuff they talk about turning 30 like you're turning 90. But yeah, I do agree that the elderly should be able to vote, even if some of them have backwards ideas. They're human beings and its their right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rose 9,391 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 that is so dumb my lord 65 is not even that old. Taking elderly rights away just because they lean conservative ain't it and i say this as a liberal. You sound like those right wing asshats who try to crack down on ~voter fraud~ to stop minorities from voting because poc typically lean left. Trying to use dirty under handed tactics to stop the demographic that votes against you is just shameful and i plan on voting as long as i'm breathing so ya'll can gtfo with that non-sense. All citizens have the right to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coval 9,036 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 you can't strip someone's rights away just because they're not gonna live as long as you. Should cancer patients have their voting rights removed as well? Should people with potentially dangerous careers like soldiers, miners, police officers have their voting rights removed as well? People in their 60's are gonna live at least 20 more years, they should have a say in how they want their country to be in those 20 years. Rather that taking someone else's rights away why don't they do something to increase the turnout rate of young voters. You're giving out about elderly people ruining countries when you should be focusing on the 42% of these "young progressive" people who cant even be arsed turning up on D-Day. These are the real people who caused brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nsfw 5,495 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 it's a really touchy subject on one hand there are a lot of topics that they can vote on that can completely ruin our world in the future, but they are still citizens that have given to their countries. it all comes down to the individual.. they should absolutely be allowed to vote but they need to educate themselves first on how they are impacting us also btw telling someone they can't vote because they are old is a type of discrimination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo's lamborghini 3,417 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 How fucking dumb you have to be to even think it's a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Tea Is Green 4,218 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I kinda agree, the world changes, old people slow the process down because they're used to a certain world and it's not easy to change that, they're living in the past (Not all of them obviously, I've seen a lot of old people being more open minded than some teenagers-adults) and I'm sure that will be most us in the future too, new things will come that will be beneficial for the young people and we will probably see it as something weird, bad or useless, but the again, voting is a right so I guess we'll have to deal with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelanatedBeauty 13,655 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Some points were made.Do y'all have any ideas how many rasict ass middle aged citizens who voted for the worst leaders because it fits their conservative ideals and ruined the youths nowadays?WHEW Thats exactly where my mind went... A bulk of elder people are very stuck in their ways and reject change no matter how beneficial that change may be... they have been brought up, raised, marinated, and stewing in olden ideologies for eons.. but they still deserve their rights so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNose 2,767 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 this aint it. old people have problems unique to them and they deserve to voice them and one day, most of us are going to be 65+, idk about you guys, but i'd still like to keep my right to vote tyvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardonnay 1,698 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I've worked in elderly care and met a couple of people in their mid-100s. If they were disenfranchised at 65, or even 80, that would be 15-40 years they're not allowed to vote before they die. Politics affect the elderly as well. I don't think any group is as effected by healthcare cuts as they are. You can't disenfranchise a group of people because they tend to vote in ways you don't approve of. If you do that, you're don't support democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonathehoe 4,579 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 65 is too young no? 70-75 is better I guess even older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaibibi 2,286 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Some points were made.Do y'all have any ideas how many rasict ass middle aged citizens who voted for the worst leaders because it fits their conservative ideals and ruined the youths nowadays?WHEW But then again..Voting is a citizens rights and everyone deserve to vote and choose The problem is also the youths simply don't go to voting polls but the older generations do. If youths want their voices heard they better go to the voting poll. See below as an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaothink 338 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 that sounds right to me. Why allow somebody who is going to die in 7-10 years to vote when the consequences (if there are any) would impact only the younger generation. but the ban should be placed to people older than 65. (75 sounds appropriate to me) A political term doesn't even last 7-10 years, of course the consequences impact them too. And I really don't know what world you live in to say that about even 75-year-olds, because in developed countries (which this discussion mostly concerns) human lifespan is constantly increasing and a lot, probably in the future most, of 75-year-olds live way longer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Soshistar 9,394 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 The problem is also the youths simply don't go to voting polls but the older generations do. If youths want their voices heard they better go to the voting poll. See below as an example Well...cant say I disagree with this.You're right...the youths should be taking this thing seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviandrepepe 6,559 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 When u start choosing who can votes and not its a dangerous slippery slope. ALready criminal can't vote, next elder and ive seen people advocate fat, uneducated, mentaly ill shouldn't vote either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anxiety 5,043 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 When u start choosing who can votes and not its a dangerous slippery slope. ALready criminal can't vote, next elder and ive seen people advocate fat, uneducated, mentaly ill shouldn't vote either. We already do decide who can vote lol. Minors can’t vote in nearly all countries, and many countries have incompetence laws meaning those with severe mental illnesses can’t vote if they’re deemed incompetent, so we didn’t just start “choosing who can vote†we’ve been doing it since forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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