Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 These calculations will be using many assumptions of course, Since I have to fill in many blanks. Here are some blanks that will be filled in. - How much venue will be paid - How much the staff/sound/etc will be paid - Taxes - Cost of production/stage/etc. A big assumption I am making is that the people who created the Merch was already paid upfront and does not get a slice of the concert prices. JYPE probably bought it all for literally less than half the price it was being sold anyways. To be on the safe side lets assume all of the blanks is about $7 Million USD is taken away. So before y'all say anything that "How much companies give their artist" Chart is fake and has no source so I will not be using it. I will assume JYPE would give something like a 35 - 65 split between it's artist and agency.Assuming they made 540 million yen from a 50,000 audience tickets on average would be $97.13 USD. The Korean media has underestimated and under reported their Dome tours capacities. From what it's looking like TWICE overall attendance is going to be 250,000. $24.4 Million USD in just Ticket sales.Merch may be perhaps $25.00 on average. If we assume about 750,000 merch items were bought for all concert. That means $18.7 Million USD in just Merch sales.Their other way of revenue such as life streams, which costed $20.00. If we assume about 25,000 Onces legally bought the stream/live$500,000 USD in just Stream/Live sales.Projected Gross Revenue: $43,250,000Projected Profit: $36,250,000JYPE's Share: $23,562,500TWICE's Share: $12,687,500 ($1,409,722 Per Girl)TL;DR $18.7 Million USD in just Merch sales.​$24.4 Million USD in just Ticket sales.$500,000 USD in just Stream/Live sales.Projected Gross Revenue: $43,250,000Projected Profit: $36,250,000JYPE's Share: $23,562,500TWICE's Share: $12,687,500 ($1,409,722 Per Girl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobSIDES 1,175 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I mean it's pretty obvious Twice will have made a tonne of cash from this. We pretty much know in music tours are the real money and a kpop GG hasn't seen the likes of this. 5 days near enough 250k ppl merch ques big enough to fill a large arena tour...come on...the bank is so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Mari-- 842 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 wouldn't Warner japan also receive a cut tho? or are they not involved in touring at all ? but either way thats a lot congrats to the girls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minatozaki Tzuyu 402 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 The power of Japanese market with K-pop!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel~♡ 933 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 wouldn't Warner japan also receive a cut tho? or are they not involved in touring at all ? but either way thats a lot congrats to the girls! I believe warner is a record label and not an entertainment company like JYP so I assume they only get a cut from music sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 wouldn't Warner japan also receive a cut tho? or are they not involved in touring at all ? but either way thats a lot congrats to the girls! That is a deciding factor, but unless Warner paid for all the background expenses they wouldn't get a cut outside of TWICE performing Warner licensed music at the concert. They probably also get a part of merch sales if some of it is owned by Warner. They probably wouldn't get more than $5 Million which I assume JYPE would pay to them out of their own shares. So they probably pocketed a good 1M ~ 3M USD max. TWICE already made $42+ Million USD in Gross Revenue from Warner anyways. I am sure they are fine with the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChooChoo 1,510 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 TWICE's Share: $12,687,500 ($1,409,722 Per Girl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Mari-- 842 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I believe warner is a record label and not an entertainment company like JYP so I assume they only get a cut from music sales. i could be wrong but i do think they also manage some artist and help with touring and what not. but yeah they are not an management agency but considering twice isn't singed to any management agency in japan i think WJ might handle the management side of things for them in japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 I feel like their next Dome Tour will be 9 - 12 Dates. 450,000 ~ 600,000 Attendees. 80% ~ 140% increase. Assuming it translates to profit that'll be.80% Increase: $43M USD in ticket sales.140% increase: $58M USD in ticket sales.80% Increase: $33.6M USD in Merch Sales140% increase: $44.8M USD in Merch sales.Total 80%: $76M USD Total 140%: $102M USD.If this manages to happen fucking woah. All other cost would probably be $10M - 15M USD. So overall $61M at the least and $92M USD at the most.Per Girl would get $2.5M USD ~ $3.5M USD from that tour.JYPE would get $39M ~ $59M from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinAi 3,245 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 So big numbers in kpop for the first time for gg, wowow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeddong 3,710 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Rich girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobunny 2,314 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 a whole lotta assumptions indeed The Korean media has underestimated and under reported their Dome tours capacities. From what it's looking like TWICE overall attendance is going to be 250,000. i would disagree here, the media gets their info from jype for press releases, so i think they got the numbers right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo's lamborghini 3,417 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 a whole lotta assumptions indeed The Korean media has underestimated and under reported their Dome tours capacities. From what it's looking like TWICE overall attendance is going to be 250,000. i would disagree here, the media gets their info from jype for press releases, so i think they got the numbers right There are contradictory numbers going around When talking about whole dome attendance ,media is reporting 210k ,but if we add up concert attendance reported by the media it's already 200k now with one dome remaining If kyocera was 40k then 210k makes sense but I remember 50k attendance was reported for that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobunny 2,314 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 There are contradictory numbers going around When talking about whole dome attendance ,media is reporting 210k ,but if we add up concert attendance reported by the media it's already 200k now with one dome remaining If kyocera was 40k then 210k makes sense but I remember 50k attendance was reported for that too i checked again and oricon, which is quite reliable said 210k in total, what are the other sources reporting higher numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastelcake 10,112 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I believe it was 50 : 50 or 60 : 40 i could be wrong but i do think they also manage some artist and help with touring and what not. but yeah they are not an management agency but considering twice isn't singed to any management agency in japan i think WJ might handle the management side of things for them in japan.WMJ is received direction from JYPE Japan for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 i checked again and oricon, which is quite reliable said 210k in total, what are the other sources reporting higher numbers? I dont think Oricon reported the numbers. .They just reported what Korean media has said We will see. After the tours are all wrapped up, they will give out offical numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobunny 2,314 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I dont think Oricon reported the numbers. .They just reported what Korean media has said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 Meaning that Oricon themselves didn't find the numbers. Korean media just estimated their numbers. For those numbers to be right each venue would have to be 44K But as we saw with Tokyo Dome and Kyocera, they were completely packed with more than 44K people inside. And other media companies are saying 100K for Tokyo Domes. It's inconsistent. I just don't think that 221K number is official but we both can wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobunny 2,314 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Meaning that Oricon themselves didn't find the numbers. Korean media just estimated their numbers. For those numbers to be right each venue would have to be 44K But as we saw with Tokyo Dome and Kyocera, they were completely packed with more than 44K people inside. And other media companies are saying 100K for Tokyo Domes. It's inconsistent. I just don't think that 221K number is official but we both can wait and see tokyo dome on the 2nd wasn't packed actually (not sure about the other 3 days), i guess i'll wait for official numbers when the tour is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namie-Knowles 7,115 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 Still looked like more than 44K. But yeah, you should do that. We will see what comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTyyan 259 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 50:50 is more like it i think. JYPE basically didn't do much for their overseas concert what's with concert promoter (or WMJ) handling everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Nayeon 1,851 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 What is the source on Day 2 not being packed/sold out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipHopRapper 146 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I don't understand the math but I assume they are fucking RICH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo 6,468 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 tokyo dome on the 2nd wasn't packed actually (not sure about the other 3 days), i guess i'll wait for official numbers when the tour is over What are you basing this off of because the second day was steamed and there were plenty of audience shots and it looked sold out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobunny 2,314 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 What are you basing this off of because the second day was steamed and there were plenty of audience shots and it looked sold out to me. the stream is what i watched and you can see in it some pics, nothing big though, a few hundred seats on the second day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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