Ash-Pikachu 51,270 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 [enter-talk] NFLYING WASN'T DOING SAJAEGI?? No but N.Flying's song was so good that me too I was listening to itI thought that it was so wrong so I'm releasing this postHwasa was so firm in being the #1 firmly so farSo I wa wondering about how Nflying got the #1Hwasa's name reputation + I live alone + over 100K people's fandom + Mamamoo + Freaking reversal song, so it was so obvious that she would receive the #1While N.Flying has a fanclub with 20K people and received #1, does it make any sense?Ok I can give the benefit of the doubt that N.Flying could be the general public pickthen I would understand if they achieved #1 in the afternoonBut right now, the male idol groups' fandoms all rely on overnight streamingand even then Moomoo were the ones who were #1 during the streaming timeI'm most curious about whether you guys think this makes senseBesides there's another thing that is even more suspiciousThat the users on Melon are increasingIt increased by 90K in one day90K?ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ A song that was 70 on Melon could accumulate that much interest in 24 hours?Rooftop/Twit/Dalla DallaHas it ever happened that 90K would suddenly appear like that?The fans are all saying 'Our N.Flying didn't commit sajaegi~!!!"Stop whining and give me the facts+Actually there's something else that also caught my attentionThe picture below shows the ranking on Genie when they entered the chartThey went from 160 to 60(by the way, Genie is the biggest online distributor after Melon in terms of numbers of listeners)Doesn't this prove that they did sajaegi?And it's been 8 days that they've been announced to be nominated as the #1Do you guys know that this is the exact same scenario as Shaun?Woody>N.Flying=Shaun>NiloWhen it comes to you guys, they're slowly risingbut when it's Nilo, Shaun or Woody, they're disgustingly rising fast and it was obviously sajaegi right?Woody took 4 days, Shaun 8 days and Nilo 40 daysN.Flying also took 8 days when he was announced to be #1?The only reason you guys think they're rising slowly is because they're your oppas and you got used to themFrom 100 to 25 in one day?Aside from sajaegi songs have you ever seen this happen?This below is the Melon chartFrom 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock they gained 15K usersYou guys think that this is the result of being the Pann pick and Facebook pick?Isn't this as strong as EBS?Yesterday from 1 o'clock to 7 o'clock too, they entered the chartand every time there are 20-40K people that adds to the listenersAren't they so solid at this point?post response: [+807][-137] original post: here ㅇㅇ Isn't the fact that they received an explosive response on Pann suspicious on its own? Usually no one ever give any attention to artists that are not famous, unless they are fake, but this one post had over 800 upvotes. There were hundreds on comments. Usually on PANN, if not for Ex-Bang-Wan posts, the ones who are upvoted are the hate posts, so who is giving them all this attention? I'm not saying they did sajaegi, but that post made on PANN was fake. It's impossible that fandom alone achieved this "This song is climbing back on chartsã… ã… " ㅇㅇ No but this is.. This isn't official but the furthest my bias has gained in terms of general public attention was reaching #500 and going all the way to #17 but it took us 2 months to do that. Our fandom has a similar size to theirs... Yeah... It's a bit suspicious ㅇㅇ For realã…‹ã…‹ã…‹I don't think their fandom is that strong ㅇㅇ If you think that being the community's pick can get you there then Brave Girls' 'Rollin', Day6's 'She Was Pretty', Laboum's 'Fresh Adventure' and April's 'April Story' would've all entered the yearly charts at this point.. ㅇㅇ The suspicious thing is that once that Pann post was made, they started having ads on Facebook too ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ And there were pages with 50K people who started advertising 'Rooftop' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 they didnt tf this comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Anti's are desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcelain 1,542 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 does it even matter... can't they stop caring about streaming etc that much? don't they have any hobbies or important things to do like job, school, family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkinz 3,195 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The good old, "I don't know them, so it must be sajaegi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkleBee 2,701 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Oh not this again........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliens-United 19,785 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The good old, "I don't know them, so it must be sajaegi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nice User 578 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 FNC trying to rain on ITZY's meteoric rise smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo's lamborghini 3,417 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I think song of the year is going to them this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thing One 255 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Idk If I'd call sajaengi, but I've never seen a song climb out of the depths of the charts that fast and all it took for it to happen was for some one to make a post on pann. Even pentagon's shine which was considered a sleeper hit didn't hit top 10 when it was trending. Personally I can't blame them for being suspicious. I am too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car door guy 11,500 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The good old, "I don't know them, so it must be sajaegi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iori 4,151 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 It's really hard these days to enter real time main charts because so many idol fans mass streamings.. I guess this is bound to happen. Also I don't mean they did sajaegi, because many singers raise suddenly since years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinAi 3,245 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I thought they support it last time?? I thought they support it last time?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaegirl 2,273 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Idk If I'd call sajaengi, but I've never seen a song climb out of the depths of the charts that fast and all it took for it to happen was for some one to make a post on pann. Even pentagon's shine which was considered a sleeper hit didn't hit top 10 when it was trending. Personally I can't blame them for being suspicious. I am too. I kinda agree, I heard a lot more when Pentagon's Shine went slightly viral but Rooftop suddenly blipped onto everyone's radar somehow. I sure hope it isn't sajaegi though, it's a good song and the member who composed the song might get hurt from either the accusations(if the company's innocent) or feel insecure about his results(if the company really did sajaegi).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anxiety 5,043 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 What would be the purpose of waiting months after they finished promoting to do sajaegi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwice 3,518 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 interesting point if pann can literally make a song rise from the depths of hell than day6 and others mentioned would have charted long ago but they didn't and those groups had multiple viral posts about their songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twicelestial 2,289 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Idk if this sajaegi but i think FNC did give a push after they gain traction for a bit Not even momoland bboom bboom reach #1 and that song is more viral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Idk If I'd call sajaengi, but I've never seen a song climb out of the depths of the charts that fast and all it took for it to happen was for some one to make a post on pann. Even pentagon's shine which was considered a sleeper hit didn't hit top 10 when it was trending. Personally I can't blame them for being suspicious. I am too. Shine was a sleeper hit amongst idol fans not the gen public It wasn't just a pann post so many people we talking about it since even a week ago. There were literally news articles about it charting again in the low numbers. People listened spread it amongst they're friends it got played on tv shows and in restaurants and stores. The only people who even accuse them of sajaegi are idol fans of the groups they are charting above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thing One 255 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Shine was a sleeper hit amongst idol fans not the gen public It wasn't just a pann post so many people we talking about it since even a week ago. There were literally news articles about it charting again in the low numbers. People listened spread it amongst they're friends it got played on tv shows and in restaurants and stores. The only people who even accuse them of sajaegi are idol fans of the groups they are charting above. Never mind. If you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgottenly 1,881 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 interesting point if pann can literally make a song rise from the depths of hell than day6 and others mentioned would have charted long ago but they didn't and those groups had multiple viral posts about their songs Those songs are years old, Rooftop came out in January this year~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwice 3,518 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Those songs are years old, Rooftop came out in January this year~ who said those posts on pann were made this year lmao they could have been made the year they were released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss.Miss 8,896 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Or it could be that it's a song that's well liked? It might not have gotten attention at the beginning because the group isn't as well known but if most people who listened to it liked and spread it, it could start getting popular. Sometimes all you need is to catch attention at the right moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thing One 255 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Those songs are years old, Rooftop came out in January this year~ Want to discuss this privately? I don't want to trigger people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKKY 6,735 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I'd be lying if I said it wasn't suspicious but I don't want to rain on their parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal glow 6,196 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Everything is sajaegi now Do people ever actually want to support or appreciate underdogs or unpopular artists? It doesn't seem that way because any time somebody unknown gains attention, they're apparently achieving it through dishonest means. What a way to downplay hard work just because it's not someone you know or care about. I guess only the same 10 artists are allowed to be #1 these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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