Ukraine Designates National Holiday to Commemorate Nazi Collaborator

[Aearom]

FILE Photo: Activists of the Svoboda (Freedom) Ukrainian nationalist party hold the photo of Stepan Bandera in Kiev, October 14, 2013. Gleb Garanich/Reuters

 

Ukraine designated the birthday of a Nazi collaborator as a national holiday and banned a book on the anti-Semitic actions of another national leader.

The Ukrainian parliament last week declared January 1 as a national day of commemoration for Stepan Bandera, who briefly joined forces with the Nazi occupation of Ukraine. A nationalist, Bandera hoped the Germans would allow his country sovereignty from the Soviet Union, though the Nazis later arrested him.

 

Some of his supporters at the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, which he headed, committed countless war crimes against Jews.

The region of Lviv, Bandera’s native city, this month declared 2019 “Stepan Bandera Year,†sparking protests by Israel. Tarik Youssef Cyril Amar, the former academic director of Lviv’s Center for Urban History of East Central Europe, this week returned an award conferred on him by the city in protest.

 

Separately, Ukraine’s State Committee on Television and Radio Broadcasting banned “Book of Thieves†by Swedish historian Anders Rydell, which includes critical analysis of the actions of Symon Petliura, an early-20th century nationalist whose troops murdered countless Jews in pogroms beginning in 1919.

The December 10 decree banning the book accused Rydell of “inciting ethnic, racial and religious hatred,†the Regnum news agency reported Wednesday.

A Russia-born Jew killed Petliura in Paris in 1929 as revenge for the pogroms.

“The whole book ban is very symbolic in itself,†said Ukrainian Jewish Committee Director Eduard Dolinsky. Both communist and Nazi authorities systematically banned books.

 

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Ukraine is clearly turning more and more Fascist since the 2014 coup but instead of paying attention to this very real problem people here keep blaming other nations 

 

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[Aelir]

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Ukraine is clearly turning more and more Fascist since the 2014 coup but instead of paying attention to this very real problem people here keep blaming other nations

Stop. While it should be criticized, none of this justifies what Russia has done in Ukraine

[Aearom]

Stop. While it should be criticized, none of this justifies what Russia has done in Ukraine

as in what   liberating Crimeans according to their wish from Neo-Nazi ukraine? Thankfully crimeans are happy being a part of Russian Federation so it doesn't matter what you or Ukraine think 

[Aelir]

as in what   liberating Crimeans according to their wish from Neo-Nazi ukraine? Thankfully crimeans are happy being a part of Russian Federation so it doesn't matter what you or Ukraine think 

 

Girl... "liberating"... calling ukraine neo nazi... are you for real. I doubt you're russian or ukrainian or even tatar, so what are you even doing. blindly repeating russian propaganda 

[kimchi-nyoen]

lol

[Aearom]

Girl... "liberating"... calling ukraine neo nazi... are you for real. I doubt you're russian or ukrainian or even tatar, so what are you even doing. blindly repeating russian propaganda 

News to me that Haaretz is Russian propaganda. Or that Russian hackers hacked Ukraine into declaring Holiday after Nazi collaborators 

[Aelir]

News to me that Haaretz is Russian propaganda. Or that Russian hackers hacked Ukraine into declaring Holiday after Nazi collaborators 

It's not, but presenting Russia as some white knight saviours in the conflict between russia and ukraine and justifying it in any way is

[Aearom]

It's not, but presenting Russia as some white knight saviours in the conflict between russia and ukraine and justifying it in any way is

Oh and why is that so?   Because USA said so?

[Aelir]

Oh and why is that so?   Because USA said so?

So you're defending russian crimes because you dislike the USA. Yes, makes perfect sense.

[Aearom]

So you're defending russian crimes because you dislike the USA. Yes, makes perfect sense.

'Russian Crimes' as in the one USA told you were crimes. Yes, makes perfect sense 

[Aelir]

'Russian Crimes' as in the one USA told you were crimes. Yes, makes perfect sense

What has the US to do here? Any sane person will see it was crimes, except the russians and their groupies

 

Including the russians who live in Crimea since Russia colonized and commited a genocide on its indigeneous population the first time they went there, and are now the majority there - reason why they were so happy in this situation

[Mark Lee]

Disgusting how eu supports these anti-semitic trash country.

[Aearom]

What has the US to do here? Any sane person will see it was crimes, except the russians and their groupies

 

Including the russians who live in Crimea since Russia colonized and commited a genocide on its indigeneous population the first time they went there, and are now the majority there - reason why they were so happy in this situation

do you mean the relocation of Crimean Tatars in the 40s because some of them were collaborating with the Nazis. 

Even before that they were 19% of the population. Now they are 12%. When were they exactly Majority in Crimea? So no matter what Majority of crimeans right now are happy with Russian Federation 

[Aelir]

do you mean the relocation of Crimean Tatars in the 40s because some of them were collaborating with the Nazis.

Even before that they were 19% of the population. Now they are 12%. When were they exactly Majority in Crimea? So no matter what Majority of crimeans right now are happy with Russian Federation

 

Collaborating with the nazis? That was the excuse the soviet union used to commit ethnic cleansings on the indigeneous populations who wanted their independency from the russians, after the genocides they commited even earlier and constant oppression.

 

I can't believe you're here defending genocides. Wow.

[Aearom]

Collaborating with the nazis? That was the excuse the soviet union used to commit ethnic cleansings on the indigeneous populations who wanted their independency from the russians, after the genocides they commited even earlier and constant oppression.

 

I can't believe you're here defending genocides. Wow.

It is well documented that some Tatars were collaborating with Nazis. There is no use n denying it sweetie. 

When did I defend it? I asked, if that is what you meant and even before that the population of Tatars was already depleted during the Tsar's rule so.

Even then, and even now the majority is not Tatars and thus majority of Crimeans want to be part of Russian Federation. Now what was the crime in giving crimeans what they want 

[Aelir]

It is well documented that some Tatars were collaborating with Nazis. There is no use n denying it sweetie. 

When did I defend it? I asked, if that is what you meant and even before that the population of Tatars was already depleted during the Tsar's rule so.

Even then, and even now the majority is not Tatars and thus majority of Crimeans want to be part of Russian Federation. Now what was the crime in giving crimeans what they want 

For someone who constantly whines about american imperialism, you sure do love to defend russian imperialist interests and crimes.

[Aelir]

do you mean the relocation of Crimean Tatars in the 40s because some of them were collaborating with the Nazis. 

Even before that they were 19% of the population. Now they are 12%. When were they exactly Majority in Crimea? So no matter what Majority of crimeans right now are happy with Russian Federation

 

And please, the soviet union used the same excuse even with north caucasian people despite thousands of them serving in the red army

[Aearom]

And please, the soviet union used the same excuse even with north caucasian people despite thousands of them serving in the red army

It is well documented that some tatars collaborated with Nazi germans. 

Next.

I am not defending 'Russian Imperialist interests'

Current crimeans want to be in Russian federation rather than Ukraine with your own admission. So what's your problem. 

When will you speak out against actual occupation going on by USA in Puerto Rico? Instead of whining about imaginary crimes 

[Aearom]

For someone who constantly whines about american imperialism, you sure do love to defend russian imperialist interests and crimes.

for someone who claims to be against Genocide and Russian Imperialism, you surely do love to defend Neo Nazi Ukraine and Nazi collaborators 

[Aelir]

for someone who claims to be against Genocide and Russian Imperialism, you surely do love to defend Neo Nazi Ukraine and Nazi collaborators

So bringing to attention the genocides committed by russians (who are still denied, and that you call "imaginary crimes") is defending nazi collaborators because the soviet propaganda said so?

 

That's some next level hypocrisy right there

 

Girl, bye. People like you defending crimes and genocides when it's convenient to them while constantly whining for the little things on the other side are the fucking worst.

[Aearom]

So bringing to attention the genocides committed by russians (who are still denied, and that you call "imaginary crimes") is defending nazi collaborators because the soviet propaganda said so?

That's some next level hypocrisy right there

Girl, bye. People like you defending crimes and genocides when it's convenient to them while constantly whining for the little things on the other side are the fucking worst.

Lol as expected. Never once have I said anything about the relocation of Tatars being not real.

So nothing about Ukraine being Neo Nazis, USA's support of Ukraine and USA's occupation of Puerto Rico?

As expected of USA's defenders. Whining about imaginary crimes while supporting USA's support of Nazis.

 

Nice to know supporting Nazis and Colonization are 'little things' for you.

[Aelir]

Lol as expected. Never once have I said anything about the relocation of Tatars being not real.

So nothing about Ukraine being Neo Nazis, USA's support of Ukraine and USA's occupation of Puerto Rico?

As expected of USA's defenders. Whining about imaginary crimes while supporting USA's support of Nazis.

Nice to know supporting Nazis and Colonization are 'little things' for you.

And when did once defend any of it? Unlike you, I never claimed any of the victims from USA got what they deserved, unlike what you're doing it right now to the victims of the russian colonization

[Aearom]

And when did once defend any of it? Unlike you, I never claimed any of the victims from USA got what they deserved, unlike what you're doing it right now to the victims of the russian colonization

 

'Russian Colonization' when you yourself agree Majority if Crimeans are of Russian ethnicity and want to be part of Russia.

 

At the same time defeding Ukraine's Nazi policies, defending USA's support of Ukraine and defending Colonization of Puerto Rico. Calling them little things. Typical.

Next

[Aelir]

'Russian Colonization' when you yourself agree Majority if Crimeans are of Russian ethnicity and want to be part of Russia.

At the same time defeding Ukraine's Nazi policies, defending USA's support of Ukraine and defending Colonization of Puerto Rico. Calling them little things. Typical.

Next

No, the little things were meant for you inserting american imperialism in every unrelated thread in this section

 

And if you read my first post better, I never defended the nazi policies, you're trying too hard. But labelling whole Ukraine as neo nazi while russia is the white knight, your agenda is clear. Neither did I say anything about Puerto Rico because I know nothing about it and it doesn't concern me. While you were here defending communist policies that affected a part of my family claiming that they were nazi supporters. And tbh fuck you for that.

 

But any support for Ukraine against the russian invasion was completely justified, yes

[Aearom]

No, the little things were meant for you inserting american imperialism in every unrelated thread in this section

And if you read my first post better, I never defended the nazi policies, you're trying too hard. But labelling whole Ukraine as neo nazi while russia is the white knight, your agenda is clear. Neither did I say anything about Puerto Rico because I know nothing about it and it doesn't concern me. While you were here defending communist policies that affected a part of my family claiming that they were nazi supporters. And tbh fuck you for that.

But any support for Ukraine against the russian invasion was completely justified, yes

So, no crimes against Ukraine that you can talk about? I see.

Where did I defend communist policies in this thread at all. I merely asked you if by the 'last time they were there' meant the Relocation of All Tatars because 'some' were Nazi collaborators. Because even at that event they were not a majority and they hadn't been a majority since long time ago. So, if you are talking about Russians being majority there after some event, you need to specify which event.

 

Again, some Tatars did collaborate with Nazis. It is well documented. Mentioning that does not mean I defended any policy.

 

But you are still here. Calling Neo-Nazi policies little things and all. Justifying USA's support of Neo Nazis... For someone who claims to be against Genocide...that doesn't look good honestly. 'invasion' lol after admitting that Crimeans want to be a part of Russia.

 

So supporting Nazis is okay as long as it stops Crimean people from being Russian according to their wishes?

 

Noted