LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 stops with the mentality that boring piano ballads are the only way to show off an idol's vocal talent. most of the time when a main/lead vocalist of a group goes solo they debut with a slow, ballad song or just a mid tempo song. obviously there are exceptions to this but most of the time i enjoy solo songs from the group members that... may not have the best singing talent and i look forward to their debut more even though i tend to bias someone from the vocal line. i understand that korea loves ballads but i just don't. besides you don't need an amazing voice to make a good ballad (think Hyunjin's "Around You" or Sooyoung's "Winter Breath") this isn't any hate against the idols who sing them but i just want there to be more of verity in songs that also shows off the singer's amazing talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begginforthread 869 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Yeah piano ballads bore the shit out of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinki 5,610 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 yes tragic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B612 22,399 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 But most solo debuts aren't even ballads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothingOld 343 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Can't say I agree, I really love ballads and ballads tend to do really well so ofc they're gonna go with something that will hit big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Rain 624 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Can't say I agree, I really love ballads and ballads tend to do really well so ofc they're gonna go with something that will hit big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 i think the real issue is that a lot of the people who go solo with ballads simply don't have the conceptual range or creativity behind them to do anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Can't say I agree, I really love ballads and ballads tend to do really well so ofc they're gonna go with something that will hit big that's very valid and while i'm aware that my thread is 1000% opinion based i just can't help but wish that i enjoyed more songs from amazing singers but they just don't make the kind of songs that i enjoy as much and OH is a good place to express opinions and i do understand that ballads do better and i think that that's the main reason why they release ballads which i don't think is the most valid reason to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Unpopular opinion, but some ballads made me become stans of groups and singers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 i think the real issue is that a lot of the people who go solo with ballads simply don't have the conceptual range or creativity behind them to do anything else. care to elaborate? that's a very interesting point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JihyoStoleMyHeartAYAYAY 22,189 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Can't say I agree, I really love ballads and ballads tend to do really well so ofc they're gonna go with something that will hit big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Unpopular opinion, but some ballads made me become stans of groups and singers. understandable. i feel the way about groups that do the opposite... i hate to admit it but for a long time i wasn't interested in Taeyeon's solo songs until she started to come out with more diverse songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal 20,923 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 care to elaborate? that's a very interesting point i'm thinking more from the aspect of how kpop is all about "image". a lot of companies and idols still force this whole "this member has this image" "this member has that image" thing instead of just letting people be themselves 100%. and their creative teams clearly stick to it too so they don't come up with anything spectacular. it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 understandable. i feel the way about groups that do the opposite... i hate to admit it but for a long time i wasn't interested in Taeyeon's solo songs until she started to come out with more diverse songs i mean, i see what you mean in terms of it being boring, but the slow background noise allows for the listeners to put more focus on the vocals, that's why it's used to be a good test to see how well the artist sings. what was your opinion when they released the ballad version of Into the New World? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 i'm thinking more from the aspect of how kpop is all about "image". a lot of companies and idols still force this whole "this member has this image" "this member has that image" thing instead of just letting people be themselves 100%. and their creative teams clearly stick to it too so they don't come up with anything spectacular. it that's a really great point that i didn't think about and i agree. it also screws over the idol (and company) in the long run because as soon as an idol comes out with songs that they want to release than it can be really shocking to the audience and maybe think that the idols is suddenly inauthentic which isn't a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonathehoe 4,579 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 If the ballad is like Let me in when you have an orchestra instrumental then sign me the f in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWICEs Fairy Godmother 165 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 this don't add up... half the things u said don't even happen that often, eg. idols debuting with ballads? l ike sis, we're in 2019... barely anyone does that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
literally tilted 6,595 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 idk but ballads are a good way of stripping the instrumentals to focus on the singer's range and/or emotional delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 i mean, i see what you mean in terms of it being boring, but the slow background noise allows for the listeners to put more focus on the vocals, that's why it's used to be a good test to see how well the artist sings. what was your opinion when they released the ballad version of Into the New World? i think it was amazing. i don't want you to think that i think that piano ballads are from hell or something. there is too much contextually surrounding the ballad version of into the new world to make it nothing but beautiful. and i understand your point about the lack of instrumentals to allow the listener to hear the voice better but i can also argue that a more hyped up songs causes the listener to listen to the song more and eventually discover the amazing voice along with an upbeat song (think Taeyeon's "Why") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 i think it was amazing. i don't want you to think that i think that piano ballads are from hell or something. there is too much contextually surrounding the ballad version of into the new world to make it nothing but beautiful. and i understand your point about the lack of instrumentals to allow the listener to hear the voice better but i can also argue that a more hyped up songs causes the listener to listen to the song more and eventually discover the amazing voice along with an upbeat song (think Taeyeon's "Why") Fine is my favorite Taeyeon song of all time. I believe in the end it depends on the singer being able to make their voice stand out, cause IU's Good Day was more on the upbeat side but it was where she was able to showcase her high notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Fine is my favorite Taeyeon song of all time. I believe in the end it depends on the singer being able to make their voice stand out, cause IU's Good Day was more on the upbeat side but it was where she was able to showcase her high notes that's a great example! lol but i just think if there was so innovation in mind there are plenty of songs that can be upbeat and easily showcase the singer's ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 that's a great example! lol but i just think if there was so innovation in mind there are plenty of songs that can be upbeat and easily showcase the singer's abilityI'm not sure if you listen to boygroups as much, but Nu'Est's Baekho has a great singing voice and he's able to display it well. Another one is EXO's Chen. They're the 2 prime examples of being able to sing well with upbeat/faster tempo music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 I'm not sure if you listen to boygroups as much, but Nu'Est's Baekho has a great singing voice and he's able to display it well. Another one is EXO's Chen. They're the 2 prime examples of being able to sing well with upbeat/faster tempo music i do listen to boygroups though it's harder for me to pull knowledge about their songs since i listen to girl groups about 70% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose. 4,207 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 i do listen to boygroups though it's harder for me to pull knowledge about their songs since i listen to girl groups about 70% of the time Check out "Love Paint" by Nuest and "Hey Mama" by EXO-CBX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunyEyes 711 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Check out "Love Paint" by Nuest and "Hey Mama" by EXO-CBX i don't like NU'EST but i'm a very big EXO L so i've herd "Hey Mama" so i understand what you're trying to say. but like i said before, i know it doesn't happen 100% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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