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#21 •Usagi•

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:57 AM (Edited by •Usagi•, 10 February 2019 - 09:04 AM.)

Naruto being a Shounen doesn't really excuse that. The only reason something is Shounen or a different demographic, only depends on the Magazine the Manga is running in. Other than that, it doesn't really mean much. There are plenty of Seinen Manga that could be Shounen, Shounen that could be Shoujo, Shoujo that could be Josei. These labels only come because of the magazine it's running in. To a degree, these magazines obviously have things they want to show and don't want to show, but even these things are rather limited and Mangakas can do whatever they want, no matter the demographic. 

 

It's just the fault of Kishimoto's writing, that the romance wasn't good. Of course, you can argue that Romance wasn't the focus of the manga, which is obviously true. But why include it then ? Bad romance is bad, no matter the focus, it doesn't excuse it.

 

And no, I never expected Naruto to be with Sakura. It was obvious it's not going to happen. But if Kishimoto was going to make Sakura and Sasuke happen, he needed to write it in a way, that is believable and not just toxic. 

 

Even Naruto and Hinata made more sense, especially because of the movie dedicated to them made this a lot acceptable, although still not as properly developed as it could have been.

 

There are other Shounen Manga and Anime that also have Romance and handle it better, be it Cross Game, Rurouni Kenshin, Inuyasha, Eureka 7 and the list goes on. 

 

People need to take in consideration the type of character Sasuke was and the fact that he not only wasn't present with Sakura and Naruto for the whole shippuden series and now he is barely home in Boruto too. Though I do agree that Sasusaku basicaly didn't have any development.

To me it was pretty obvious who would stay with who since the beggining of the mangá, even though Sasuke didn't seem to really care about Sakura (saving for some moments), Sakura love for Sasuke something that never really faded in the mangá. Of course Kishimoto could just have ended the mangá without Sasuke getting married with someone, but I guess he needed Sarada for Boruto and making one pairing that was planned since the beggining finally happen would please most fans.

 

About the other shounens, I didn't read Eureka 7 or Cross Game, but I did read Inuyasha and Rurouni Kenshin and I don't think it's really comparable, first because of Inuyasha and Kenshing type of characters and also for the fact that the authors had a lot of time to handle the romance better, because Inuyasha and Kagome/ Kenshing and Kaoru had more time together.


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:44 AM

I hate this ship

 

it's so forced , he never cared for her and then suddenly he's married and shit ew


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:52 AM

also for the fact that the authors had a lot of time to handle the romance better, because Inuyasha and Kagome/ Kenshing and Kaoru had more time together.

 

But that's the point ? These romances aren't bad because they had time, SasuSaku is bad, because they didn't. Kishimoto also had enough time, he just didn't use it. That's definitely bad writing. 

 

And I don't think that considering his character and personality is changing anyone's mindset. Because the fact that his personalty is the way it is, is one of the biggest reasons why this couple just doesn't make sense in the first place. 


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:04 PM

I thought part I Naruto  sasusaku had some cute moments. I used to ship them then lol Shippuden ruined everything


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:29 PM

But that's the point ? These romances aren't bad because they had time, SasuSaku is bad, because they didn't. Kishimoto also had enough time, he just didn't use it. That's definitely bad writing. 
 
And I don't think that considering his character and personality is changing anyone's mindset. Because the fact that his personalty is the way it is, is one of the biggest reasons why this couple just doesn't make sense in the first place.


Kishimoto didn't have time. When you read Naruto it's not hard to see that romance isn't the focus, at all. And considering Sasuke personality is extremely important, it makes no sense to compare histories that have nothing similar with naruto just because they are shounens, kenshin and inuyasha have nothing similar with sasuke bith in personality and plot. It makes no sense.
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:41 PM

Kishimoto didn't have time. When you read Naruto it's not hard to see that romance isn't the focus, at all. And considering Sasuke personality is extremely important, it makes no sense to compare histories that have nothing similar with naruto just because they are shounens, kenshin and inuyasha have nothing similar with sasuke bith in personality and plot. It makes no sense.

 

I'm not sure if you understand what I mean, or if I just cannot get across what I'm trying to say. Of course, Kishimoto had time, but as you are saying it wasn't his focus. But if it's not his focus, then why include it ? If he wouldn't have included Sasuke being a couoke with Sakura, it would have been a different case. But he did, which means that romance was important enough for this to happen.

 

Sasuke not having the personality is Kishimoto's fault. Sasuke's personality not fitting for a romance, that is the problem. So the solution was to either to invest time to make it believable or to not do it at all. No one forced him to make these two a couple. 

 

If he had to make it happen, for the next generation, then he also had to invest time into developing the relationship. Focus or not, it is bad writing. The protagonist of other shows had a different personality. Okay, and? Their personality didn't just magically happen, the mangaka planned their personality to make their relationship make sense. Just like Kishimoto could have. He just didn't.


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 01:25 PM (Edited by •Usagi•, 10 February 2019 - 02:57 PM.)

I'm not sure if you understand what I mean, or if I just cannot get across what I'm trying to say. Of course, Kishimoto had time, but as you are saying it wasn't his focus. But if it's not his focus, then why include it ? If he wouldn't have included Sasuke being a couoke with Sakura, it would have been a different case. But he did, which means that romance was important enough for this to happen.

Sasuke not having the personality is Kishimoto's fault. Sasuke's personality not fitting for a romance, that is the problem. So the solution was to either to invest time to make it believable or to not do it at all. No one forced him to make these two a couple.

If he had to make it happen, for the next generation, then he also had to invest time into developing the relationship. Focus or not, it is bad writing. The protagonist of other shows had a different personality. Okay, and? Their personality didn't just magically happen, the mangaka planned their personality to make their relationship make sense. Just like Kishimoto could have. He just didn't.

Why include it? I already responded it.

Edit: a neg because of Naruto? Hilarious.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:04 AM

SasuNaru was the only ship with Sasuke that made sense. NaruGara and NaruSaku was okay though...
But the fact that Naruto just remembered some moments from past and suddenly realized he loves her...bullshitt
But Hinata is super cute so I give pass to NaruHina
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 06:49 AM

Sasuke and Naruto had more chemistry than Sasuke and Sakura ever did. 0u0plz.png


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:39 AM

they date in secrecy


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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:02 PM

Forget romance, Kishimoto couldn’t even write a good female character to save his life.

NaruHina was heavily shipped and pushed by the anime staff. NaruSaku never stood a chance, though I saw a potential budding of it somewhere 3/4 through Shippuden.

The only ship that mattered was NejiTen. My ass still ain’t over it. Kishimoto did us dirty >:^(
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