Nogizaka46 (乃木坂46) / Sakurazaka46 (櫻坂46) / Hinatazaka46 (日向坂46) Official Thread

[KQI88]

5 hours ago, demasta said:

 

Ah, the girls doing games. Entertaining as always. The card game had a lot of funny moments. Yakubo was amazing.

[Mlem]

Onehallyu is finally back! (I just knew)

 

[Guest]

Dont cry Seimiya Rei

[Heavenrise]

New fanboy here.

So yeah, I found out about Nogizaka46 a few days ago and have been trying to watch as many things about them as possible. For now, I'm sticking to Nogizaka Under Construction because damn, BananaMan are awesome!

 

Right now, through the masterlist I found all soft-subs for episodes, but where exactly do I get raws from?

[demasta]

4 hours ago, Heavenrise said:

New fanboy here.

So yeah, I found out about Nogizaka46 a few days ago and have been trying to watch as many things about them as possible. For now, I'm sticking to Nogizaka Under Construction because damn, BananaMan are awesome!

 

Right now, through the masterlist I found all soft-subs for episodes, but where exactly do I get raws from?

glad to see a new fan, you can get the raws from aidoru online torrent

do you currently have an oshi/fave?

[Heavenrise]

9 minutes ago, demasta said:

glad to see a new fan, you can get the raws from aidoru online torrent

do you currently have an oshi/fave?

Already getting them episodes! Thanks for the tip!

 

About oshimen, yeah... how do you guys even have one?

The reason why I got into Nogizaka46 was because of this video:

Which led me to this:

 

 

And before I knew it, I was hooked into the show.

At first I thought Asuka would be my favorite because girl is just so adorable, but the more you get to know other members, the more interesting they get!

 

So far tho, won't lie I'm very interested in Shiraishi Mai, Itsuka Erika and Matsumura Sayuri.

Even though I already looked into Sayuri's scandal, honestly, it doesn't bother me that much: apart from the whole married mess, them dating is what happens behind the scenes and the pure/innocent/virgin image is just tiring imo. As long as they're happy and being treated well by their partners, it's all good.

I feel bad for Sayuri, though:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXRN94uZyRk

 

Girl is SO CHEESY. SO GREASY. SO CRINGEY.

Yet you can't help but get addicted by her persona.

If wasn't for her scandal, I'm pretty sure she'd still be just as popular as Shiraishi.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Heavenrise

[demasta]

1 minute ago, Heavenrise said:

Already getting them episodes! Thanks for the tip!

 

About oshimen, yeah... how do you guys even have one?

The reason why I got into Nogizaka46 was because of this video:

Which led me to this:

 

 

And before I knew it, I was hooked into the show.

At first I thought Asuka would be my favorite because girl is just so adorable, but the more you get to know other members, the more interesting they get!

 

So far tho, won't lie I'm very interested in Shiraishi Mai, Itsuka Erika and Matsumura Sayuri.

Even though I already looked into Sayuri's scandal, honestly, it doesn't bother me that much: apart from the whole married mess, them dating is what happens behind the scenes and the pure/innocent/virgin image is just tiring imo. As long as they're happy and being treated well by their partners, it's all good.

I feel bad for Sayuri, though:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXRN94uZyRk

 

Girl is SO CHEESY. SO GREASY. SO CRINGEY.

Yet you can't help but get addicted by her persona.

haha yeah, i understand that you cant really have only one oshi, its hard

for me personally, i try to have a few members for each gen that i like and they'll be my oshis

[Heavenrise]

Plus, just wanted to say: RENKA IS ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE!

 

And she's getting even prettier by the day:

Is it just me, though, or she started ressembling MOMOLAND's Ahin?

[Heavenrise]

5 minutes ago, demasta said:

haha yeah, i understand that you cant really have only one oshi, its hard

for me personally, i try to have a few members for each gen that i like and they'll be my oshis

IKR

The major issue for me right now is stanning someone who may have already graduated, like Captain/Ikoma.

From what I've seen, Sayuri girl seems to be worried about graduating for a while now and I wouldn't be surprised if that happened soon, considering her popularity dropped a lot + other new members have been added.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Heavenrise

[demasta]

4 minutes ago, Heavenrise said:

Plus, just wanted to say: RENKA IS ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE!

 

And she's getting even prettier by the day:

Is it just me, though, or she started ressembling MOMOLAND's Ahin?

yes, rentan is adorable

and after a quick search, i personally dont see it

 

4 minutes ago, Heavenrise said:

IKR

The major issue for me right now is stanning someone who may have already graduated, like Captain/Ikoma.

From what I've seen, Sayuri girl seems to be worried about graduating for a while now and I wouldn't be surprised if that happened soon, considering her popularity dropped a lot + other new members have been added.

yeah, its rough having an oshi that already graduated without knowing it

and if you're talking about inoue sayuri, she already announced her graduation which is a shame since i like her

but if you're talking about matsumura sayuri, she's still really popular and i dont see her graduating any time soon (well at least this year)

[Heavenrise]

1 minute ago, demasta said:

yes, rentan is adorable

and after a quick search, i personally dont see it

 

yeah, its rough having an oshi that already graduated without knowing it

and if you're talking about inoue sayuri, she already announced her graduation which is a shame since i like her

but if you're talking about matsumura sayuri, she's still really popular and i dont see her graduating any time soon (well at least this year)

RIP, I only saw a couple videos with Inoue Sayuri, but she seemed quite fun!

I was quite surprised, because compared to kpop, it's quite hard to find info about them; so far this thread has been the best for me when it comes to data in an organized way. Reddit is just... confusing.

 

 

Now, I just wanted to stir some conversation here, but watching so many videos, I got me thinking...

Is it just me or Japan's idols look a little bit... outdated?

Their hairstyle, for example, sometimes it's just gorgeous beyond comprehension:

But most of the time you'll see the average same-as-always japanese style:

 

 

Even their clothes are so conservative whenever you see them on variety shows:

 

And you'd think they're SO much conservative compared to kpop, but then photobooks happen and boom:

 

Which is quite shocking compared to Korea.

Reminds me a lot of how people would talk about how much Kara's Jiyoung changed after she became an actress in Japan and imo, indeed, you could see a difference in her style as a whole.

[SakuraSake]

17 hours ago, Heavenrise said:

RIP, I only saw a couple videos with Inoue Sayuri, but she seemed quite fun!

I was quite surprised, because compared to kpop, it's quite hard to find info about them; so far this thread has been the best for me when it comes to data in an organized way. Reddit is just... confusing.

 

 

Now, I just wanted to stir some conversation here, but watching so many videos, I got me thinking...

Is it just me or Japan's idols look a little bit... outdated?

Their hairstyle, for example, sometimes it's just gorgeous beyond comprehension:

But most of the time you'll see the average same-as-always japanese style:

 

 

Even their clothes are so conservative whenever you see them on variety shows:

 

And you'd think they're SO much conservative compared to kpop, but then photobooks happen and boom:

 

  Hide contents

 

 

Which is quite shocking compared to Korea.

Reminds me a lot of how people would talk about how much Kara's Jiyoung changed after she became an actress in Japan and imo, indeed, you could see a difference in her style as a whole.

welcome to the world of J-idols lol

But 46 as a whole tend to have longer skirts and more "conservative" outfits

[Heavenrise]

1 hour ago, SakuraSake said:

welcome to the world of J-idols lol

But 46 as a whole tend to have longer skirts and more "conservative" outfits

Feeling like an AKB trainee being thrown into Produce 48. LOL

 

But yeah, it's just that strange feeling at the beginning, soon enough I'll probably get used to it, especially since I was already into some japanese artists like SCANDAL since Orkut times.

I really appreciate how they have their own show and it's been going on for YEARS now. Just imagine having that as a kpop fan!

[SakuraSake]

this is so sad

 

[Heavenrise]

4 minutes ago, SakuraSake said:

this is so sad

 

This is so messed up...

Won't lie I started delving into jpop in a way to get away from all the bad vibes I was getting in kpop, but I guess when it comes to industry, it's all the same.

 

I really hope she and her father are doing well, sometimes it's just better to stay away from people like him.

It may hurt at first, but in the end, the damage will be nowhere near as staying with a guy like that and suffering so much more.

[Heavenrise]

Btw,

Watching Nogizaka Under Construction ep. 4 now (before that I was just going for random vids I found on youtube/dailymotion) and damn, I knew Senbatsu was ruthless, but nowhere near as ruthless as it was shown.

Seeing how Miona Hori was devastated after not getting selected was just so sad... must be quite tough for people who stan several members, especially since with 40+ active members, it's not surprising for you to like over 12.

[baymon]

On 10/17/2019 at 9:36 AM, Heavenrise said:

RIP, I only saw a couple videos with Inoue Sayuri, but she seemed quite fun!

I was quite surprised, because compared to kpop, it's quite hard to find info about them; so far this thread has been the best for me when it comes to data in an organized way. Reddit is just... confusing.

 

 

Now, I just wanted to stir some conversation here, but watching so many videos, I got me thinking...

Is it just me or Japan's idols look a little bit... outdated?

Their hairstyle, for example, sometimes it's just gorgeous beyond comprehension:

But most of the time you'll see the average same-as-always japanese style:

 

 

Even their clothes are so conservative whenever you see them on variety shows:

 

And you'd think they're SO much conservative compared to kpop, but then photobooks happen and boom:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Which is quite shocking compared to Korea.

Reminds me a lot of how people would talk about how much Kara's Jiyoung changed after she became an actress in Japan and imo, indeed, you could see a difference in her style as a whole.

Haha, I had the same feeling too as I also came from kpop to jpop many years ago. Yeah, it's so different compared to kpop. Kpop have sexy dance and sexy performance outfit, but they won't do gravure photoshoot or bikini MV the way 48G do.

46G will only do risky gravure in their photobook though. Their image is much more conservative compared to 48G, which is also why their skirt is longer, and I heard they are also not allowed to dye their hair with light colors or polish their nail other than natural colors.

Generally I think Japanese idol style is more conservative than kpop idol, because I think their image is supposed to be the cute girl-next-door image.

[Yirenism]

yeah, i think it has more of an impact when a girl you're used to seeing in a conservative style suddenly doing some risque gravure. lol

but then again this is the country known to be the one that understands people's hidden fantasy the most lol.

 

on another note, i hope yamatomato gets her life together. post-nogi life seemed to have been very hard for her.

[Heavenrise]

<looking around for N46 pics, when I find some Baka Couple more recent pics>

 

<also me reacting to>

 

[Heavenrise]

On 10/19/2019 at 7:26 AM, Yirenism said:

yeah, i think it has more of an impact when a girl you're used to seeing in a conservative style suddenly doing some risque gravure. lol

but then again this is the country known to be the one that understands people's hidden fantasy the most lol.

 

on another note, i hope yamatomato gets her life together. post-nogi life seemed to have been very hard for her.

IKR.

 

I mean, it's quite confusing for me to see how they're so conservative look-wise, but during NogiDoko/Nogizaka Under Construction will talk about things like same-sex attraction/boobs/pervert stuff in a very casual manner.

 

Compared to kpop or even my own culture, it's totally the opposite, so it's hard to get used to it.

Not sure if manga is imitating real life or vice-versa, but I finally understand the connection between RL and manga after watching some shows. Some of their personas are really like a manga character!

[demasta]

5 minutes ago, Heavenrise said:

<looking around for N46 pics, when I find some Baka Couple more recent pics>

 

<also me reacting to>

 

yep, thats when they went to hawaii for their nogizaka world show thing

[Heavenrise]

Now now, wanted to know from you guys:

How do you deal with graduation?

 

N46 is like Wonder Girls... but after some members left, they replaced her with Twice members, and after some more left, they replaced with ITZY members. All in a single group.

It's quite sad to see some girls I just started to like, like Ikoma Rina, already graduated, while I have no idea what to expect from newer generations.

[Heavenrise]

1 minute ago, demasta said:

yep, thats when they went to hawaii for their nogizaka world show thing

Girls be aging like some really fine wine I see.

[KQI88]

5 hours ago, Heavenrise said:

Now now, wanted to know from you guys:

How do you deal with graduation?

For me, as I'm in this Japanese idol game since 2006 (I started with Morning Musume) I'm very used to graduation. Now I just wish the girl all the happiness in the world and move on to my second favorite of that generation. I'm kind of callous to the process now, I'm curious to new fans dealing with the process

Also, having oshis in each generation also helps a lot haha

[Heavenrise]

3 hours ago, KQI88 said:

For me, as I'm in this Japanese idol game since 2006 (I started with Morning Musume) I'm very used to graduation. Now I just wish the girl all the happiness in the world and move on to my second favorite of that generation. I'm kind of callous to the process now, I'm curious to new fans dealing with the process

Also, having oshis in each generation also helps a lot haha

Welp, the proccess is kinda like this:

 

1 - have lots of fun and get to know each member one by one.

2 - start to get familiar with their names.

3 - get attached to member.

4 - starts kinda stanning that member (together with another 10-20 girls)

5 - finds out that member you liked so much already graduated.

6 - grieves and tries to move on.

7 - repeat step 3 to 7.

 

Considering the age of Gen I compared to Gen 3/4, it wouldn't be surprising if more Gen I members graduate within the next year, as it happened in 2019.

It was already shocking enough to find out about Ikoma Rina, Sakurai Reika or even Nishino Nanase, can't imagine how much it'd affect Nogizaka46 as a whole if one of the "main/center" members graduated.