[SKY CASTLE] Seriously why everybody hates Hyena and loves Yeseo

[Danee Danee]

I cannot stand Yeseo, I find Hyena's actions more or less understandable. She is kinda manipulative but with the way how rough her life is... However Yeseo seems to be just a typical spoiled little bitch.

 

Just watched ep 10. Watching since yesterday tbh.

[Chouette]

I notice that international viewers tend to empathize with Hye Na more, because it's true that she is extremely strong despite her life being filled with obstacles and misfortune. Hye Na pretty much embodies this belief that inequity should be erased by fighting for what she deserves in life. Same thing with Sue Im, with her righteousness and strong opposition to the lifestyle at the Castle.

 

Not to generalize or anything but the Korean viewers have a different view and tend to side with Ye Seo and her mom quite often. I agree with you that Ye Seo is unbearably rude and disrespectful, especially towards Hye Na and even adults like the Hwangs. But Koreans do glorify ambitions and hard work, and they perhaps see the fact that Ye Seo aspires to attend SNU medical school as extremely admirable and even likable. Koreans also don't like Hye Na/Sue Im as much claiming that they're overly nosy and that they try to hard to disrupt "what has already been in place." Again, I don't want to generalize or say that there is anything twisted about this sort of belief, but that's the general observation I have. Plus, when you think about it, Ye Seo and her character are just products of her mom's parenting style. In other words, people don't hate her as much because they know she's also a victim.

 

 

 

Just watched ep 10. Watching since yesterday tbh.

 

Lmao yes, relatable. This show is just too good. Binge-watching is almost inevitable.

[ethereal]

anyone who prefers yeseo was a bully, whether they know it or not

[ASS]

yeseo's whole family minus yebin are just....ugh

[SugaJam]

I like Hye

 

I notice that international viewers tend to empathize with Hye Na more, because it's true that she is extremely strong despite her life being filled with obstacles and misfortune. Hye Na pretty much embodies this belief that inequity should be erased by fighting for what she deserves in life. Same thing with Sue Im, with her righteousness and strong opposition to the lifestyle at the Castle.

 

Not to generalize or anything but the Korean viewers have a different view and tend to side with Ye Seo and her mom quite often. I agree with you that Ye Seo is unbearably rude and disrespectful, especially towards Hye Na and even adults like the Hwangs. But Koreans do glorify ambitions and hard work, and they perhaps see the fact that Ye Seo aspires to attend SNU medical school as extremely admirable and even likable. Koreans also don't like Hye Na/Sue Im as much claiming that they're overly nosy and that they try to hard to disrupt "what has already been in place." Again, I don't want to generalize or say that there is anything twisted about this sort of belief, but that's the general observation I have. Plus, when you think about it, Ye Seo and her character are just products of her mom's parenting style. In other words, people don't hate her as much because they know she's also a victim.

 

 

Lmao yes, relatable. This show is just too good. Binge-watching is almost inevitable.

 

I agree with you

But I don't like Soo Im but I like Hyena.

 

For Yeseo, I am indifferent. If she was an adult I would dislike her, but as she is a teen I am more forgiving.

She has many personalities flaws, but a lot of is caused by environment and by her mom. She is not bad to the core, just selfish, and is misguided. 

 

Generally I feel bad for the kids in the Sky Castle, whether they appear as bad or good. For the adults, they make their beds, now they need to lay on it. I don't like or dislike any, except for Yeseo's dad. He's the most pathetic character to me. He's not bad, just pathetic. 

[hlynb93]

I love Yeseo because she embodies characteristics that I wish I had. I admire her determination and drive, she's focused and won't let anything get in the way of reaching her dream. It's true that her overall personality needs improvement but you can't be liked by everyone, as long as you are the best at what you do that's what matters. In way she embodies the idea of meritocracy aside from the last few episodes.

 

I'm not a fan of Hyena because despite admiring her determination and resilience I still find her fundamentally selfish. She wants to destroy a family that didn't even know about her existence simply to watch the world burn. What happened to her mum is sad but it's not Yeseo's or even her parents' fault, they never knew about her. Just because you are sad doesn't mean the whole world has to be sad with you and I don't like how she used Wojoo for her own gain.

Compared to Hyena, Yeseo is also more likable because she's fundamentally pretty innocent, she has no ill intent towards others, she only cares about reaching her goal.

[ethereal]

I love Yeseo because she embodies characteristics that I wish I had. I admire her determination and drive, she's focused and won't let anything get in the way of reaching her dream. It's true that her overall personality needs improvement but you can't be liked by everyone, as long as you are the best at what you do that's what matters. In way she embodies the idea of meritocracy aside from the last few episodes.

 

I'm not a fan of Hyena because despite admiring her determination and resilience I still find her fundamentally selfish. She wants to destroy a family that didn't even know about her existence simply to watch the world burn. What happened to her mum is sad but it's not Yeseo's or even her parents' fault, they never knew about her. Just because you are sad doesn't mean the whole world has to be sad with you and I don't like how she used Wojoo for her own gain.

Compared to Hyena, Yeseo is also more likable because she's fundamentally pretty innocent, she has no ill intent towards others, she only cares about reaching her goal.

she never wanted to "destroy" the family though. she just wanted to be recognized as her father's daughter and live the life that should have been hers. yeseo and the mother's torment of her is what turned her bad. its cause and effect.

[hlynb93]

she never wanted to "destroy" the family though. she just wanted to be recognized as her father's daughter and live the life that should have been hers. yeseo and the mother's torment of her is what turned her bad. its cause and effect.

But that life shouldn't have been hers, her parents had her out of wedlock, it's not like they were happily married and then Yeseo's mum came and stole him. The two of them were broken up, he chose Yeseo's mum. Even if they had known about Hyena she would have just lived as the illegitimate child, a secret the family would have tried to keep buried.

[ethereal]

But that life shouldn't have been hers, her parents had her out of wedlock, it's not like they were happily married and then Yeseo's mum came and stole him. The two of them were broken up, he chose Yeseo's mum. Even if they had known about Hyena she would have just lived as the illegitimate child, a secret the family would have tried to keep buried.

but she did steal him lol. he loved hyena's mom, but his own mom didn't approve of them and yeseo's mom lied and weasled her way in. and if yeseo and hyena are the same age, doesn't that mean yeseo was conceived out of wedlock too?? i don't see how you can't sympathize with hyena in this situation. she didn't ask to be born. but she was and she deserved all the child support her father should have been paying for years and some. 

[Danee Danee]

But Koreans do glorify ambitions and hard work, and they perhaps see the fact that Ye Seo aspires to attend SNU medical school as extremely admirable and even likable.

But how can anybody say Hyena isnt hardworker. This is one of the few things I agree on with the coach... Despite her situation, Hyena keep up with Yeseo just fine. Even though she is in bad situation, going through a lot of stress, gets a job... If Hyena got as much support as Yeseo, she would probably do even better.

 

I'm not a fan of Hyena because despite admiring her determination and resilience I still find her fundamentally selfish. She wants to destroy a family that didn't even know about her existence simply to watch the world burn. What happened to her mum is sad but it's not Yeseo's or even her parents' fault, they never knew about her. Just because you are sad doesn't mean the whole world has to be sad with you and I don't like how she used Wojoo for her own gain.

Compared to Hyena, Yeseo is also more likable because she's fundamentally pretty innocent, she has no ill intent towards others, she only cares about reaching her goal.

I dont think Hyena wanted to destroy them. She lost everything in life, yet she had to keep living. Most things she did so far seemed genuine for me, but when the oportunity raised, she used it. Is it really that bad? About Woojoo... I dont think she only use him. She was interested in him way before she learned Yeseo likes him.

 

But that life shouldn't have been hers, her parents had her out of wedlock, it's not like they were happily married and then Yeseo's mum came and stole him. The two of them were broken up, he chose Yeseo's mum. Even if they had known about Hyena she would have just lived as the illegitimate child, a secret the family would have tried to keep buried.

She is his child and even if she was child made outside of marriage, he should have supported her at least financially. Its not her fault he broke up with her mom. Do you think its right that one daughter gets coach for 1mil while another is basically homeless? If she wanted to destroy the family, she would just walk in and demand what's hers. The law about taking care of a minor must exist even in Korea.

 

Not sure if there was anything in next episodes you saw but I havent yet... But it was said Yeseo's father was happy with Hyena's mother and Yeseo's mother broke that relationship when not even his mother could managed it. So...

[hlynb93]

but she did steal him lol. he loved hyena's mom, but his own mom didn't approve of them and yeseo's mom lied and weasled her way in. and if yeseo and hyena are the same age, doesn't that mean yeseo was conceived out of wedlock too?? i don't see how you can't sympathize with hyena in this situation. she didn't ask to be born. but she was and she deserved all the child support her father should have been paying for years and some.

 

  

But how can anybody say Hyena isnt hardworker. This is one of the few things I agree on with the coach... Despite her situation, Hyena keep up with Yeseo just fine. Even though she is in bad situation, going through a lot of stress, gets a job... If Hyena got as much support as Yeseo, she would probably do even better.

 

I dont think Hyena wanted to destroy them. She lost everything in life, yet she had to keep living. Most things she did so far seemed genuine for me, but when the oportunity raised, she used it. Is it really that bad? About Woojoo... I dont think she only use him. She was interested in him way before she learned Yeseo likes him.

 

She is his child and even if she was child made outside of marriage, he should have supported her at least financially. Its not her fault he broke up with her mom. Do you think its right that one daughter gets coach for 1mil while another is basically homeless? If she wanted to destroy the family, she would just walk in and demand what's hers. The law about taking care of a minor must exist even in Korea.

I understand she's a child and didn't ask to be born, but what is Yeseo's family supposed to do about it? Her mum never approached them, her dad never knew she existed. The one to blame here is the mum, if she wanted her to have a beter life she should have tried to come forward.

[Danee Danee]

I understand she's a child and didn't ask to be born, but what is Yeseo's family supposed to do about it? Her mum never approached them, her dad never knew she existed. The one to blame here is the mum, if she wanted her to have a beter life she should have tried to come forward.

The point is she didnt want to destroy them, she just wanted to be loved and recognized too. Like the pizza scene with Yeseo and her dad. Thats what she wanted.

 

But what did she get? She was just giving back what she got.

[ethereal]

   I understand she's a child and didn't ask to be born, but what is Yeseo's family supposed to do about it? Her mum never approached them, her dad never knew she existed. The one to blame here is the mum, if she wanted her to have a beter life she should have tried to come forward.

he did know tho. hyena's mom legit texted him about having a child right before she died. he just didn't know it was hyena. hyena's mom is at fault but not completely. she was basically scared into silence and when she finally came forward she was ignored. and its not about yeseo's family, its about her dad. he should pay for sticking his unprotected dick in multiple women. 

[byeol]

everybody? i have seen that koreans like yeseo but they're hopeless.... idk about i-fans general opinions tho

 

as for yeseo, she is my least favorite character out of the entire series, she is just a bratty rich girl who's also selfish and rude. The lengths her mom and her are willing to go just to get her into the SNU are gross. 

 

I really liked hyena, she was the smartest kid out there and the one who worked the hardest too. I liked the way she manipuled others and played her cards

[hlynb93]

The point is she didnt want to destroy them, she just wanted to be loved and recohgnized too. Like the pizza scene with Yeseo and her dad. Thats what she wanted. But what did she get? She was just giving back what she got.

 

Yeah, but what did she expect was going to happen? Burging into another family expecting to accepted with open harms? It's sad but it's to be expected, accepting your husband's illegitimate kid from his ex isn't exactly something many women are willing to do.

 

 

he did know tho. hyena's mom legit texted him about having a child right before she died. he just didn't know it was hyena. hyena's mom is at fault but not completely. she was basically scared into silence and when she finally came forward she was ignored. and its not about yeseo's family, its about her dad. he should pay for sticking his unprotected dick in multiple women.

 

I agree that their dad is a useless piece of shit, but sending a random text message to someone you haven't met in 17 years isn't exactly reaching out. She should have tried to contact him earlier, based on the drama she had been sick for quite a while, she could have tried to get in contact with him in person when she was still healthier.

[Danee Danee]

 

Yeah, but what did she expect was going to happen? Burging into another family expecting to accepted with open harms?

 

 

Maybe to be treated like human being. But I guess this concept is too much for Yeseo's mom and Yeseo herself who treat even her own sis like a shit. 🙄

[hlynb93]

Maybe to be treated like human being. But I guess this concept is too much for Yeseo's mom and Yeseo herself who treat even her own sis like a shit.

They are not nice, but they are only human, as I said before not many women would be happy to have their husband's illegitimate child living with them, people divorce over shit like that. And I understand Yeseo's point of view too, this girl who was never nice to you, you've hated each other for years now suddenly comes to your house, hoping your dad will drop you for her,no one would be happy about that.

[Danee Danee]

They are not nice, but they are only human, as I said before not many women would be happy to have their husband's illegitimate child living with them, people divorce over shit like that. And I understand Yeseo's point of view too, this girl who was never nice to you, you've hated each other for years now suddenly comes to your house, hoping your dad will drop you for her,no one would be happy about that.

Both points of view are understandable. So why it makes Hyena into evil in your eyes, yet Yeseo's mom and Yeseo are good?

[hlynb93]

Both points of view are understandable. So why it makes Hyena into evil in your eyes, yet Yeseo's mom and Yeseo are good?

I don't find Hyena evil, I just think she's being selfish and needlessly petty, she could have just threatened Yeseo's mum with revealing what she did to get her the presidency, or revealing the truth to her husband, gotten a big cash payout and went on to live her life happily without needing to get involved with these people. Instead she felt the need to take "revenge" on people who are ultimately not at direct fault for her situation and got herself  in even more crap. I don't hate her, I pity her because she wasn't being very smart with her choices.

[byeol]

I don't find Hyena evil, I just think she's being selfish and needlessly petty, she could have just threatened Yeseo's mum with revealing what she did to get her the presidency, or revealing the truth to her husband, gotten a big cash payout and went on to live her life happily without needing to get involved with these people. Instead she felt the need to take "revenge" on people who are ultimately not at direct fault for her situation and got herself  in even more crap. I don't hate her, I pity her because she wasn't being very smart with her choices.

how was she not? she made every right choice to reach her goal, she had yeseo's crush after her, she had yeseo's sister fond of her and she even forced yeseo's mom to let her stay in the house. Basically she made every right choice, her only mistake was that she didn't expect to encounter a psychopath and that's where she lost

 

i get that you think her goal was dumb but saying that she wasn't smart with her choices when she made it that far it's a bit uhh...

[noeye]

anyone who prefers yeseo was a bully, whether they know it or not

 

That's your conclusion? Lol.

[Caridee]

I hate Yeseo and her entire family with passion.. hyena didn’t even do anything. She just made empty threats so ppl wouldn’t step all over her.

[hlynb93]

 

how was she not? she made every right choice to reach her goal, she had yeseo's crush after her, she had yeseo's sister fond of her and she even forced yeseo's mom to let her stay in the house. Basically she made every right choice, her only mistake was that she didn't expect to encounter a psychopath and that's where she lost

 

i get that you think her goal was dumb but saying that she wasn't smart with her choices when she made it that far it's a bit uhh...

 

She wasn't smart, because doing all of those things was useless, in the end her dad wouldn't have acknowledged her anyway, he wasn't gonna suddenly think that she's a much better daughter than Yeseo and kick his family out to be with her. The smart thing would have been to blackmail Yeseo's mum and take the money or have her secretly fund her lifestyle in exchange for keeping the secret forever.

[Bella D'Amour]

I hate Yeseo and her entire family with passion.. hyena didn’t even do anything. She just made empty threats so ppl wouldn’t step all over her.

 

same here, I used to be so annoyed w/ that narrow-minded kid, Yeseo, but after Hyena died, if she makes some courage to do justice for hyena before the finale eps, I'll be supporting her. ..

 

BUT.......

 

 

why she give hyena's keychain to her mom?

since she's the one who get rid all of the hyena's belongings for sake of ys. smh 

 

 

[byeol]

She wasn't smart, because doing all of those things was useless, in the end her dad wouldn't have acknowledged her anyway, he wasn't gonna suddenly think that she's a much better daughter than Yeseo and kick his family out to be with her. The smart thing would have been to blackmail Yeseo's mum and take the money or have her secretly fund her lifestyle in exchange for keeping the secret forever.

when i say she is smart i'm talking about how she succeeded at manipulating others multiple times, she even got adults agreeing to what she wanted. Are you gonna tell me a stupid person would be able to do that?

 

also the blackmailing/getting money thingy is clearly not what hyena's character wanted so you should stop bringing it up