You mean like how the catholic church has been for centuries towards young boys? Again, even in a gender equal world, this ''hierarchy'' of power would still exist. Do you honestly think that it would be impossible for #MeToo to happen in a gender equal world? Nope. Even some men spoke up about #MeToo (as victims).
The burden of proof lies with the person trying to prove that something exists. Evidence has to be brought up by you, only then will I have it negated.
Willful joining isn't wasting then. Don't be sly and use history to prove some nonexistent point - as of now, child rearing is something that women are choosing to do.
Honestly? You really don't get the reality of the situation here. Capitalists have officially brainwashed the likes of you into glamorizing the idea of a ''career'' as if it were the goal for happiness. Maybe for SOME, but certainly not for the majority of masses. Majority just ''like'' their job. Kinda how like we like what we're studying in uni. But I don't think that most university students have ever had this grand dream of studying Accounting 101. It's just cool.
Feminism is not only so marketable, but convenient to the corporatist cause. I don't know about you, but people DO complain about overworking and having less time for themselves and their family. What do the elderly tend to regret? Not spending enough time with family and friends, they hardly ever regret ''working too much'' or having failed to climb up the ladder as they believe that they should have. Americans like the idea of retiring early and traveling the world instead. People who actually DO have kids don't see them as ''hindrances''. Only those who A.) Don't plan on having them but use them for the feminist cause as some sort of ''back up'' point or B.) Young adults who have yet to think about having them. They're only ''hindrances'' if they make for a financial burden, and atm it's like you're complaining about people being financially oppressed just cause they had children.
That wasn't the point, lel, you deliberately spoke of the dangers behind pregnancy to add to the negativity behind it - but those dangers are rare; hence I did the same with jobs. I'm invalidating your point.
Yes? Being pregnant is difficult. I meant it in the long term sense. Like I don't think you've actually ever been around pregnant women while they working, at least not enough to experience what it is that they were really feeling at that time for you to be victimizing them like this, lmao. They're not in a disadvantaged position or however you'd like to see them as relative to your own agenda. They're just normal women happy that they're having children soon, and well aware that their physical state will slightly compromise them. It's just extra work but really, you're normal for the most part until you hit your 5th month or so. Then you take maternity leave (I believe that maternity leave should be at least 20 weeks).
Yea? It's wrong. How is that relevant to this, tho?
Fools, the lot of you. Don't let capitalism/corporatism deprive you of the source of happiness that has been constant over time.
The Catholic Church is one institution, whose clergy are meant to be celibate and override every other social, legal consideration in devotion to the church - the parameters of the child sexual abuse that went on there is pertinent to a different area.
#MeToo was spoken about by mainly women, against overwhelming majority of men in numerous fields - a generalized social hierarchy. And #MeToo isn't only about the assault but stresses on the base which diminishes the ability of the victim to articulate and denigrates their position in society so that their requirement of punishment is counted as insignificant in the face of importance of the perpetrators.
A tip: read into Althusser's explanation of Ideological State Apparatuses.
You are the one who outright wrote that other factors controlled, the wage gap ceases. So you provide the evidence?
Wilful joining has to be a choice, but child-rearing has to be a joint choice too - it shouldn't be something a woman only has to shoulder if she is not a single parent. Pregnancy and child-rearing is still, even in the present not a choice for most women around the world - even in 1st World countries. Ever heard of reproductive coercion? Of forced marriages? Why do you think the Catholic Church forbids even contraception? Or Repubs try to ban women from getting prophylactics from Planned Parenthood and don't allow sex-ed in schools? If women were so willing to have babies - why the attempt to not let them make informed decisions on their reproductive ability?
(Using history is sly? Well, let me just tell you - “Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”)
You obviously don't know anything about 2nd Wave Feminism and the battles fought, do you?
Feminism is the bane of capitalist structure - which envisions the world in terms of capital, produce and productive work, and unsees the significance of unpaid housework by women.
People study and work for what it gives them - economic stability (you know, the thing Millenials lament they lack and hence cannot support a family?) and satisfaction. Some people really do study for a dream - like medicine, mechanical engineering, journalism. Just cause you hate your syllabus or line of job, doesn't mean we all do.
Women do lament having to give up their work, the satisfaction in doing work, the friend-circle in the workplace. (Kim Ji Young born 1982 by Cho Nam-Joo - read into it). People also regret having kids, both men and women do. (https://mothership.s...happiest-woman/)
Dangers in pregnancy aren't rare. And in the poorest countries - those whose condition mimics the historical situation it is dire even now. Women can get infections, tears, fistulas that mean they cannot control pee or poop and may even poop from the vaginal entrance. Birthing while undeveloped young or malnutritioned can wreck the bones, lead to life-long pain and mobility problems. This is just data for maternal mortality - https://data.unicef....rnal-mortality/
Also LOL at you invalidating my points on pregnancy. My aunt, uncle, grand-aunt, grand-uncle, cousin sister are all gynecologists - they own a nursing home.
Me the youngest cousin, have been around six sister-in-law and sisters who've had kids. Plus of course, close friends. My 'agenda' is derived from their testimonies. Ever seen a person with gestational diabetes? Ever had a friend with abnormal high blood pressure with pre-eclampsia?
If anything, you're the stubborn fool who is unwilling to educate herself in historical and medical facts, and rambles on with deluded certainty on topics you know nothing about. Also, learn to debate with cordiality before setting down to present your opinions on a public message board.